General FPL Chat 2017/18

Mr.Prodston · 09-07-2017 9:35pm

It doesn't really matter what price the players are as we're all in the same boat to begin with? Plus all these prices seem reasonable enough as it is, or have I missed something.

Anyway, much more importantly, how much is PVA?

CSF · 09-07-2017 9:53pm

FHFC wrote: »

Alli 9.5m
Pogba 8.0m
Gayle 6.5m

https://www.premierleague.com/news/435406

Alli priced reasonably enough, which is a surprise.

SlickRic · 09-07-2017 9:54pm

Alli 9.5 is bang on.

manual_man · 09-07-2017 10:26pm

SlickRic wrote: »

Alli 9.5 is bang on.

Seems fair. Though I think I'll start off without Spurs attackers. Opening fixtures not great and then there's the Wembley factor. Though if Walker is sold and Trippier is first choice then I think I'll have him from day one

km79 · 09-07-2017 10:28pm

manual_man wrote: »

Seems fair. Though I think I'll start off without Spurs attackers. Opening fixtures not great and then there's the Wembley factor. Though if Walker is sold and Trippier is first choice then I think I'll have him from day one

I have it in my head that Kane is aslow starter too

Lucas Hood · 09-07-2017 10:55pm

km79 wrote: »

I have it in my head that Kane is aslow starter too

Hasn't scored a goal in august afaik.

FHFC · 09-07-2017 11:37pm

https://twitter.com/FPL_Guru_/status/884160191104774147

FHFC · 09-07-2017 11:41pm

CSF wrote: »

Fine points in a vacuum, but, if you increase the price of everyone who shows any kind of potential (even Redmond has been increased) and price Premier League unknowns like Salah and Lacazette the way they have, how do you maintain any kind of balance? It definitely appears like there will be way more players over the 8 million mark than last year and while the budget remains the same, that has a negative impact on how enjoyable the game is. I certainly don't want to be able to field a front 7 of Sanchez, Hazard, Mané, De Bruyne, Kane, Aguero and Lukaku either but I feel what I have seen so far this year has gone in a negative direction and that's without the list of players who I actually expected to rise even being announced yet.

Do you not feel that a player's value should be relative to the other players in the game (within the confines of the 100 million budget), rather than their own price in previous years? The combined price of the likely starting 11 of each of the 20 teams (220 players basically) shouldn't vary much year on year, but from what I've seen so far this year it is set to fly up. I don't get how that makes sense.

I kinda get what you're saying, but effectively regrading all prices to a bell curve is kinda a big ask.

I just think pretty much all the prices (except maybe Redmond) are bang on compared to last year's metrics based on reasonable probability of returns this season.

I think Sane and Alli in particular, Pogba are potentially great value. Don't know anything about Klaasen.

spock. · 09-07-2017 11:51pm

manual_man wrote:

Seems fair. Though I think I'll start off without Spurs attackers. Opening fixtures not great and then there's the Wembley factor. Though if Walker is sold and Trippier is first choice then I think I'll have him from day one

Son is the player whose price I'm most interested in.

Scorpion Sting · 09-07-2017 11:58pm

NoviGlitzko wrote: »

Anyone any idea of when this is due to launch?

My guess would be Wednesday afternoon. I highly doubt they're launching this on the 10th and Wednesday seems an ideal time with it being 30 days before the new season gets underway.

Scorpion Sting · 10-07-2017 12:03am

spock. wrote: »

Son is the player whose price I'm most interested in.

There's a bit of doubt about whether he'll be fit for Spurs' opening match as he is currently injured.

CSF · 10-07-2017 10:00am

FHFC wrote: »

CSF wrote: »

Fine points in a vacuum, but, if you increase the price of everyone who shows any kind of potential (even Redmond has been increased) and price Premier League unknowns like Salah and Lacazette the way they have, how do you maintain any kind of balance? It definitely appears like there will be way more players over the 8 million mark than last year and while the budget remains the same, that has a negative impact on how enjoyable the game is. I certainly don't want to be able to field a front 7 of Sanchez, Hazard, Mané, De Bruyne, Kane, Aguero and Lukaku either but I feel what I have seen so far this year has gone in a negative direction and that's without the list of players who I actually expected to rise even being announced yet.

Do you not feel that a player's value should be relative to the other players in the game (within the confines of the 100 million budget), rather than their own price in previous years? The combined price of the likely starting 11 of each of the 20 teams (220 players basically) shouldn't vary much year on year, but from what I've seen so far this year it is set to fly up. I don't get how that makes sense.

I kinda get what you're saying, but effectively regrading all prices to a bell curve is kinda a big ask.

I just think pretty much all the prices (except maybe Redmond) are bang on compared to last year's metrics based on reasonable probability of returns this season.

I think Sane and Alli in particular, Pogba are potentially great value. Don't know anything about Klaasen.

I mean I don't expect the exact same figures, but I think that value should be relative year on year, and that prices should sit within those brackets, meaning you get roughly the same for your 100 mill year on year as long as you manage your choices well.

km79 · 10-07-2017 10:57am

Lanzini 7ml

ScummyMan · 10-07-2017 11:26am

After last seasons heroics, Gareth McAuleys price released :P

2nd Row Donkey · 10-07-2017 11:26am

km79 wrote:

Lanzini 7ml

Not bad. A few more players of that calibre at that price would be appreciated.

km79 · 10-07-2017 11:28am

Llorente 7.5

PVA · 10-07-2017 1:28pm

Does it open today yeah?

T-b0n3 · 10-07-2017 1:31pm

PVA wrote: »

Does it open today yeah?

They said it would open week commencing 10th of July (today), so we can expect it this week.

Lucas Hood · 10-07-2017 1:31pm

PVA wrote: »

Does it open today yeah?

Could be any day this week.

Week of the 10th July is all they've said.

km79 · 10-07-2017 2:09pm

Capoue 5.5
.5 too dear again ?

FHFC · 10-07-2017 2:36pm

km79 wrote: »

Capoue 5.5
.5 too dear again ?

manual_man · 10-07-2017 9:03pm

km79 wrote: »

Llorente 7.5

I'm interested. And with seemingly no way back for Costa at Chelsea, Conté might go back in for Llorente. Probably a bit wishful thinking, but a 7.5m first choice Llorente at Chelsea would be nice :pac:

km79 · 10-07-2017 9:05pm

McCauley 5ml

Scorpion Sting · 10-07-2017 9:07pm

manual_man wrote: »

I'm interested. And with seemingly no way back for Costa at Chelsea, Conté might go back in for Llorente. Probably a bit wishful thinking, but a 7.5m first choice Llorente at Chelsea would be nice :pac:

Call me cynical, but I'd say there's not a hope in hell of Conte starting the season with Llorente as his first choice striker. If he moves to Chelsea, he'll be a backup option I would wager.

km79 · 10-07-2017 9:09pm

Scorpion Sting wrote: »

Call me cynical, but I'd say there's not a hope in hell of Conte starting the season with Llorente as his first choice striker. If he moves to Chelsea, he'll be a backup option I would wager.

If Chelsea start with llorente as first choice striker conte will have resigned by that point

CSF · 10-07-2017 9:30pm

km79 wrote: »

Scorpion Sting wrote: »

Call me cynical, but I'd say there's not a hope in hell of Conte starting the season with Llorente as his first choice striker. If he moves to Chelsea, he'll be a backup option I would wager.

If Chelsea start with llorente as first choice striker conte will have resigned by that point

Llorente would be a great backup choice though for if the first choice striker gets injured. Imagine having a starting Chelsea striker at approx 7 mil (he'd most likely drop in the meantime).

FHFC · 11-07-2017 9:12am

New chip.

Fuuuuuuuck

https://www.premierleague.com/news/436425

Cartman78 · 11-07-2017 9:15am

FHFC wrote: »

New chip.

Fuuuuuuuck

https://www.premierleague.com/news/436425

Jeez....I have a headache after reading that

loadwire · 11-07-2017 9:15am

FHFC wrote: »

New chip.

Fuuuuuuuck

https://www.premierleague.com/news/436425

First reaction is that it would be ideal for small double gameweeks, pack your squad with players from 4 or 6 teams or whatever...

KevIRL · 11-07-2017 9:19am

Well the AOA was a waste of time anyway.

Immediate reaction is that it means I definitely wont be entering any paid competitions that have a knock out element.

spock. · 11-07-2017 9:40am

That chip will be used by many in the big blank gameweek.

Iused2likebusts · 11-07-2017 9:44am

I like that new chip lots of options on when to use it. Good for the blank gw ,dgw or maybe gw38.

km79 · 11-07-2017 9:51am

So bring in dgw players without having to take hits in the w!weeks before and not being stuck with scrap the week after
Lovely stuff

I will be playing my second wildcard early again now so

But then can't play BB or TC
Hhhmmmmm yes it is tricky

Paully D · 11-07-2017 9:51am

AOA was pointless. Glad that's gone.

That said, I could be wrong this new chip seems sort of like a get out of jail free card for people who don't plan properly for the DGW's.

That's an area where a lot of us make up a lot of ground and score highly. We now won't be able to gain as much of an advantage from this and it will likely negate the TC in a DGW too depending on how the fixtures play out.

FHFC · 11-07-2017 10:16am

Paully D wrote: »

AOA was pointless. Glad that's gone.

That said, I could be wrong this new chip seems sort of like a get out of jail free card for people who don't plan properly for the DGW's.

That's an area where a lot of us make up a lot of ground and score highly. We now won't be able to gain as much of an advantage from this and it will likely negate the TC in a DGW too depending on how the fixtures play out.

This. Hate is sooo much.

Simplifies one of the trickiest elements of the game to paint by numbers.

Just gonna have to figure out a creative smart way to use the stupid thing to our advantage.

Chips out.

km79 · 11-07-2017 10:18am

The more I think about it the more I think this chip is more suited to a big blank week
You don't have to have players stinking out your team's for weeks in advance just to see them not play (Phillips, stanislas), don't take a hit for one week players , you don't lose value by selling players you want back AND most of all you can use TC and BB in the doubles

patmac · 11-07-2017 10:45am

Also cue loads of 'why did I play my 'free hit' chip if I had left it alone I would have had 50 points extra' posts.

ScummyMan · 11-07-2017 11:05am

Yeah I'm not too happy with the chip either, negates the weeks of planning befor a BGW.

clairewithani · 11-07-2017 11:23am

Another wildcard really, is it?

Scorpion Sting · 11-07-2017 11:48am

clairewithani wrote: »

Another wildcard really, is it?

It's like the wildcard but can only be used for a single gameweek. The following gameweek you go back to the team you had before you deployed the chip.

-=al=- · 11-07-2017 11:53am

It just gets easier every year

2nd Row Donkey · 11-07-2017 11:55am

These chips are great for us casuals.

*saunters out*

PARlance · 11-07-2017 11:59am

2nd Row Donkey wrote: »

These chips are great for us casuals.

*saunters out*

*high 5's other casual on his way out*

GLaDOS · 11-07-2017 12:07pm

Farcical stuff, but unsurprising.

Cartman78 · 11-07-2017 12:12pm

The more I think about it (and as others have said), it probably would be most beneficial for a BGW.....but it takes away the planning/tactical/strategic element around that which is a pity for us obsessives

clairewithani · 11-07-2017 12:14pm

Scorpion Sting wrote: »

It's like the wildcard but can only be used for a single gameweek. The following gameweek you go back to the team you had before you deployed the chip.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh.

SlickRic · 11-07-2017 12:15pm

I thought TC and second wildcard would ruin things when they first came in, as it allowed 'casuals' get lucky and/or fix mistakes.

It hasn't been the case at all.

Good players use the chips well most of the time. It'll be the same with this. Let it play out before judging it.

Scorpion Sting · 11-07-2017 12:36pm

Eric Bailly's price looks set to be announced in a few minutes.

Shedite27 · 11-07-2017 12:37pm

ScummyMan wrote: »

Yeah I'm not too happy with the chip either, negates the weeks of planning befor a BGW.

I'm happy with the chip, negates the weeks of planning befor a BGW.

Scorpion Sting · 11-07-2017 12:37pm

Eric Bailly 6 million. That was as expected.

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