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All Ireland SHC Final (formerly SHC thread) - READ MOD NOTE POST #1

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,838 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/884432226032599040

    pity its not a double header like always but suites me fine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,832 ✭✭✭dr.kenneth noisewater


    Why is the Tipp/Clare game at 3PM on a Saturday, seems strange


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,838 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Why is the Tipp/Clare game at 3PM on a Saturday, seems strange

    for RTE id say

    I think sky have the 2 football 4A games at 5pm and 7pm


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,690 ✭✭✭Mokuba


    Why is the Tipp/Clare game at 3PM on a Saturday, seems strange

    Don't think there can be a coverage clash.

    Tipp v Clare at 3 on RTE

    Cork v Mayo at 5 on SKY

    Galway v Donegal at 7 on SKY


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,159 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Why is the Tipp/Clare game at 3PM on a Saturday, seems strange

    Came to say just that. Not that it's hassle for me, just strange overall


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭ArnoldJRimmer


    Very odd to move one game to the Saturday, are they expecting to fill Pairc Ui Chaoimh both days?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭danganabu


    Very odd to move one game to the Saturday, are they expecting to fill Pairc Ui Chaoimh both days?

    Second day yes, the saturday not a hope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,397 ✭✭✭letowski


    There will actually be more Cork fans at the Clare v Tipp match than Clare supporters themselves!

    Anyway, we have a tragic core support, I doubt we will bring much more than 5k to PUC. It's sickening like being a Clare player sometimes, there was no Clare crowd there to cause an uproar and get Horgan a deserved red when drove the butt of the hurl into the side of O'Connor's head (blowing the helmet clean off actually).


  • Posts: 24,286 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    letowski wrote: »
    There will actually be more Cork fans at the Clare v Tipp match than Clare supporters themselves!

    Anyway, we have a tragic core support, I doubt we will bring much more than 5k to PUC. It's sickening like being a Clare player sometimes, there was no Clare crowd there to cause an uproar and get Horgan a deserved red when drove the butt of the hurl into the side of O'Connor's head (blowing the helmet clean off actually).


    Jeez really? Clare normally have a strong vocal crowd at home in Ennis and used get a decent crowd during the 90s in their strong days. Surprised with this tbh. They havent a bad young team and they have already delivered an all Ireland but their tactics are a little unambitious even under the new regime with this tendency to withdraw forwards. I feel they didnt do themselves justice yesterday

    If it was in Limerick im sure it would make a difference?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,397 ✭✭✭letowski


    A bit, but there is something up with our county compared to other Munster counties anyway. I always thought it was down to sucess but I will never forget our first championship match in 2014 after we won the AI. We played Cork in Thurles and brought somewhere between 6-8k. It was shocking. I'm not sure what the problem is. Every championship game is an away game.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,406 ✭✭✭Phonehead


    Happy enough with that draw, while Waterford certainly on paper aren't any easier than Tipp, I think Wexford will have less fear of Waterford than they would have facing Tipp. I still would fancy Waterford but the chances of a hiding (every wexford fans fear after years of receiving them) are unlikely now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    letowski wrote: »
    A bit, but there is something up with our county compared to other Munster counties anyway. I always thought it was down to sucess but I will never forget our first championship match in 2014 after we won the AI. We played Cork in Thurles and brought somewhere between 6-8k. It was shocking. I'm not sure what the problem is. Every championship game is an away game.

    Disappointing crowd for sure, but you still wouldn't convince me that fair day supporting is exclusive to any particular county or set of counties. And it's certainly not exclusive to the GAA. It's a general sporting condition, simple as.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 ✭✭spideyman92


    Any know if Pairc Ui Chaoimh has hawkeye?


  • Posts: 24,286 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Any know if Pairc Ui Chaoimh has hawkeye?


    Not sure fairness would be top of the mafias priority down there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,403 ✭✭✭C__MC


    I fancy Waterford to beat Wexford, only 12 months ago they beat them
    Easily enough. Wexford have little or no scoring threat


  • Posts: 24,286 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    C__MC wrote: »
    I fancy Waterford to beat Wexford, only 12 months ago they beat them
    Easily enough. Wexford have little or no scoring threat


    Alot has changed in 12 months. Cork were beaten by Wexford 12 months ago and now they are Munster champions. Wexford themselves have beaten Kilkenny twice in league and championship, got promoted ahead of Galway and made a Leinster final.

    I wouldnt exactly call Waterford free scoring either despite Saturdays result. Seamus Callanan has 19 goals since the beginning of the championship in 2014 and Waterford have around the same amount of goals in total themselves in that same time frame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,114 ✭✭✭Boom__Boom


    Any know if Pairc Ui Chaoimh has hawkeye?

    It doesn't.

    It was supposed to be built in from the start but the Cork County Board hadn't the funds. They have said it will be done "next year" but I wouldn't be holding my breath on it.

    The way the whole stadium project has gone I wouldn't be a bit surprised if it ended up being an issue at some stage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭danganabu


    C__MC wrote: »
    I fancy Waterford to beat Wexford, only 12 months ago they beat them
    Easily enough. Wexford have little or no scoring threat

    Not sure what that is based on? They scored more in 70 mins against KK than Waterford did and in Chin and McDonald have two of the best forwards in the game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭Reputable Rog


    letowski wrote: »
    There will actually be more Cork fans at the Clare v Tipp match than Clare supporters themselves!

    Anyway, we have a tragic core support, I doubt we will bring much more than 5k to PUC. It's sickening like being a Clare player sometimes, there was no Clare crowd there to cause an uproar and get Horgan a deserved red when drove the butt of the hurl into the side of O'Connor's head (blowing the helmet clean off actually).

    What's a hurl ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Boom__Boom wrote: »
    It doesn't.

    It was supposed to be built in from the start but the Cork County Board hadn't the funds. They have said it will be done "next year" but I wouldn't be holding my breath on it.

    The way the whole stadium project has gone I wouldn't be a bit surprised if it ended up being an issue at some stage.

    A new stadium not having hawk eye is simply ridiculous and invites scorn. Would have thought there'd be some central input into the funding of this.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,403 ✭✭✭C__MC


    danganabu wrote: »
    Not sure what that is based on? They scored more in 70 mins against KK than Waterford did and in Chin and McDonald have two of the best forwards in the game

    Oh really, anonymous against Galway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 Malcolm Tucker


    Some of the hatred on here towards Cork (or, for some posters, towards any county other than their own) is really pathetic. Gas how you also seem to meet these 'supporters' on message boards but never at the game?

    Wasn't a classic Munster Final by any means, but great to get the win after two awful years and having been in the doldrums for most of the decade.

    I think Tipp are still favourites as their players have the experience of having won Liam McCarthy. Galway also look very strong, but are their players scarred from having fallen at the final hurdle so many times?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,175 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    I think too much success has made some KK people bitter when they don't get everything their own way. Not the first highly defensive post I've seen from a KK poster when someone dared criticise them.

    I'd further echo rumors of your demise, as sport is cyclical. In 2005 KK had the players coming through, even in 2013 they had them. They simply aren't coming through to the same standard right now. Cody's years are also numbered. Cork and Tipp are also back. As great as KK were over the past decade, their success owed a great deal to Cork being in the wilderness, while Tipp went backwards once the management left after their All-Ireland success and KK picked up another few cheap all-Irelands.

    What is really worrying for KK is their performances have been way below par for a while now, it's not just a once-off. Naming how many all-Irelands you won isn't going to change that, nor would I be shouting about it too loudly as it wasn't too long ago Cork led the roll of honour for 80 odd years. As history has shown us, Cork produce better players than Kilkenny on a more consistent basis and they now have another batch coming through. You should probably reacquaint yourself with the idea of playing second fiddle to Cork once more
    Some of the hatred on here towards Cork (or, for some posters, towards any county other than their own) is really pathetic. Gas how you also seem to meet these 'supporters' on message boards but never at the game?

    Wasn't a classic Munster Final by any means, but great to get the win after two awful years and having been in the doldrums for most of the decade.

    I think Tipp are still favourites as their players have the experience of having won Liam McCarthy. Galway also look very strong, but are their players scarred from having fallen at the final hurdle so many times?

    If you can find any "hatred on here towards Cork" before the above post by Golden Miller, please point it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,708 ✭✭✭citykat


    C__MC wrote: »
    I fancy Waterford to beat Wexford, only 12 months ago they beat them
    Easily enough. Wexford have little or no scoring threat
    We're in for one hell of a borefest. It'll be a game of two halves i.e. each team lining out in their own half. I agree and think Waterford will win but I probably will have lost the will to live by the end.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭Powerhouse


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Powerhouse wrote: »
    You are missing the point completely. The 80 year olds in question would have had the option of watching it on RTE - they wouldn't have had to go to Semple.

    well as it goes the 80 year old should easily be able to remember a time when only semi finals onwards were televised.. we've come a long way since then.

    .


    But that's a high stool argument isn't it? It's like saying you can't complain about a pizza because you remember a time when there were no pizzas in Ireland. Makes no logical sense at all. Michael Duignan never said that there are not enough matches televised.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭Powerhouse


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Powerhouse wrote: »
    You are missing the point completely. The 80 year olds in question would have had the option of watching it on RTE - they wouldn't have had to go to Semple.

    well as it goes the 80 year old should easily be able to remember a time when only semi finals onwards were televised.. we've come a long way since then.

    .


    But that's a high stool argument isn't it? It's like saying you can't complain about a pizza because you remember a time when there were no pizzas in Ireland. Makes no logical sense at all. Michael Duignan never said that there are not enough matches televised.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭I said


    Powerhouse wrote: »
    But that's a high stool argument isn't it? It's like saying you can't complain about a pizza because you remember a time when there were no pizzas in Ireland. Makes no logical sense at all. Michael Duignan never said that there are not enough matches televised.

    Not at all it was a great match, tipp v dublin was scutter if that was on sky and the kkvwat wasn't nobody would give two fcuks and the Sunday game would show the highlights and that would be that.


  • Posts: 24,286 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A new stadium not having hawk eye is simply ridiculous and invites scorn. Would have thought there'd be some central input into the funding of this.

    With the money the GAA are getting off SKY and these concerts, surely it should be going toward upgrading every main county ground in the country at least with this technology. If they want elite players to play more games like the Super 8 and the new hurling provincial round robin then they should at least get a fair crack of the whip


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    With the money the GAA are getting off SKY and these concerts, surely it should be going toward upgrading every main county ground in the country at least with this technology. If they want elite players to play more games like the Super 8 and the new hurling provincial round robin then they should at least get a fair crack of the whip

    No question. Its probably not cheap to install (have heard reports of a 250k cost), but when a figure of 75m is being quoted in relation to the Cork redevelopment, it boggles the mind that they couldn't squeeze another couple of hundred grand to install the hawkeye technology. No game from All Ireland quarter-finals on should be played without it in my view.


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  • Posts: 24,286 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No question. Its probably not cheap to install (have heard reports of a 250k cost), but when a figure of 75m is being quoted in relation to the Cork redevelopment, it boggles the mind that they couldn't squeeze another couple of hundred grand to install the hawkeye technology. No game from All Ireland quarter-finals on should be played without it in my view.

    Relative to the surplus the GAA have and the gate receipts per game its a very very small cost. I think it adds a bit of drama to the game too in particular that game on Saturday night.


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