The JBL Bullying Thread

Hococop · 22-06-2017 09:29PM

Wonder what happened, jbl apologize, small payout and a job back?

SureYWouldntYa · 22-06-2017 09:50PM

Please let him move back up to the main roster in time

We've had how many years of Michael Cole and "Oh my", commentary really makes a difference and a team of Mauro and Corey Graves would be oh so good

CastorTroy · 22-06-2017 09:58PM

So i assume Tom Phillips is going to focus on SD?

sky88 · 22-06-2017 10:35PM

I'm not a huge fan of Mauro but think he's a better fit for nxt than the main roster

martyos121 · 22-06-2017 10:41PM

Some turnaround for Mauro, going from being forced out of your dream job due to backstage BS and hazing to being the man to call the biggest sporting event of the year (Mayweather vs. McGregor) and then on top of that getting his job back in a presumably much happier environment. Really pleased for him.

Agent Coulson · 22-06-2017 11:25PM

martyos121 wrote: »

Some turnaround for Mauro, going from being forced out of your dream job due to backstage BS and hazing to being the man to call the biggest sporting event of the year (Mayweather vs. McGregor) and then on top of that getting his job back in a presumably much happier environment. Really pleased for him.

The cynic in me say that is the reason Vince is bringing him back in.

sky88 · 22-06-2017 11:50PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

The cynic in me say that is the reason Vince is bringing him back in.

I doubt Vince was that involved all accounts seem to be he's hands off on nxt

gerrybbadd · 23-06-2017 10:42AM

Perhaps HHH brokered a deal to bring him back.

Not having Vince barking in his ear at NXT would be a big plus. And HHH has been acting as peacemaker of sorts these past few years too, managing to get Warrior and Bruno Sammartino to come back.

NXT has gone up another step in my estimations now!

beakerjoe · 23-06-2017 10:46AM

To be fair to Michael Cole, hes a decent commentator, Id argue most guys are better than they appear on WWE main shows.

Cole was fantastic on the UK shows and The Beast in the East special. Vince is the problem IMO.

jaykhunter · 23-06-2017 10:52AM

Definitely, Cole is very slick and polished commentator but he's also the shill guy made to laugh uproariously at every awful segment so he has negative credibility. Part of me thinks the man should've stood up for his character - other commentators aren't shilly mcshill or do it in a less embarrassing way. That said he's also held a job for the guts of 20 years. I hear he's a real sour guy with fans, never hear any good experiences with people meeting him.

beakerjoe · 23-06-2017 10:56AM

jaykhunter wrote: »

Definitely, Cole is very slick and polished commentator but he's also the shill guy made to laugh uproariously at every awful segment so he has negative credibility. Part of me thinks the man should've stood up for his character - other commentators aren't shilly mcshill or do it in a less embarrassing way. That said he's also held a job for the guts of 20 years. I hear he's a real sour guy with fans, never hear any good experiences with people meeting him.

Would I be right in saying Cole was the first no wrestler since tony schiavone to be given a shot at WWE/F?

He came in with no repuation and was basically did what he was told and got paid. I dont blame the guy as he made a living out of it. He simply does what hes told.

jaykhunter · 23-06-2017 11:03AM

Well, lol, Rob Bartlett! "American comedian, actor, impressionist, and writer". He's a quadruple threat!

I suppose Kevin Kelly & Jim Ross worked as a ring announcer/ref in smaller organisations before being picked up by a big company (unlike a wrestler/promoter-turned-commentator). But ya Cole is the lead voice for RAW working his way up from no prior wrestling experience, doing promos & Livewire!

A Rogue Hobo · 23-06-2017 12:37PM

He's (Cole) also the producer of commentary at NXT isn't he? Fairly sure I saw clips of him feeding lines to the guys in Breaking Ground or something like that. Must be kinda annoying to be told by fans that commentary in NXT is so much better than his own when he produces it.

sky88 · 23-06-2017 06:23PM

I think cole is alongside regal as one of hhh guys he leans backstage.

I think cole was always going to have people not like him as he has to say what Vince wants. I can't find it know but there's a YouTube video were Vince is speaking and cold basically has to just say yes.

Itssoeasy · 23-06-2017 07:11PM

sky88 wrote: »

I think cole is alongside regal as one of hhh guys he leans backstage.

I think cole was always going to have people not like him as he has to say what Vince wants. I can't find it know but there's a YouTube video were Vince is speaking and cold basically has to just say yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmJgCO2JjBI

This it ?

SureYWouldntYa · 23-06-2017 07:34PM

Cole can be a good commentator if left to his own devices but the damage to him and his general reputation amongst fans is done, he stopped getting a lot of criticism for a while after how he handled the Lawler heart attack and rightfully so

My main problem with him is the lack of believability in his voice that you get with Graves/Mauro/JR, even Tom Phillips is more believable than Cole

jaykhunter · 23-06-2017 07:45PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

This it?

That is a soul-crushing 47s. It used to be a dream job of mine to commentate for WWE (or be a writer) but it sounds so demoralising.

J. Marston · 23-06-2017 07:46PM

Don't like Cole and his "Oh my!" but Vince must be a terror to have in your ear constantly.

Even supposed hard-man, JBL, looks like he has to walk on eggshells around Vince's preferred parlance. From last week...

https://streamable.com/qdm2i

"Belt?! Call it a Championship, dammit!"

DEFTLEFTHAND · 23-06-2017 07:56PM

jaykhunter wrote: »

That is a soul-crushing 47s. It used to be a dream job of mine to commentate for WWE (or be a writer) but it sounds so demoralising.

I remember Mick Foley saying that his stint as a com on Smackdown was one of his worst experiences in WWE.

Vince roaring obscenities into his ear and blowing his top over silly little details like Foley saying belt instead of championship.

Mick said that he wasn't going to allow anybody speak to him like that.

CastorTroy · 23-06-2017 10:29PM

J. Marston wrote: »

Don't like Cole and his "Oh my!" but Vince must be a terror to have in your ear constantly.

I can't remember what match it was but I remember him giving a really delayed "Oh my!" which made me think he was told to say it

24-06-2017 12:15AM

What a manoeuvre!

big syke · 26-06-2017 10:14AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I remember Mick Foley saying that his stint as a com on Smackdown was one of his worst experiences in WWE.

Vince roaring obscenities into his ear and blowing his top over silly little details like Foley saying belt instead of championship.

Mick said that he wasn't going to allow anybody speak to him like that.

Ye Foley speaks about it at length but doesn't specify exact phrases McMahon yelled at him in his "Countdown to Lockdown" book.

jaykhunter · 26-06-2017 03:48PM

Deleted User wrote: »

What a manoeuvre!

CM Punk, smark hero :pac:

764dak · 04-09-2017 01:07AM

JBL will step away from commentary.

https://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2017/9/1/16244938/jbl-smackdown-live-commentary-role
JBL:

After much consideration, I will be stepping back my weekly role as Smackdown Announcer to dedicate more continuous time on the work I have done since 2010 with at risk kids and communities. My new schedule will allow me to continue to be a part of the WWE family and also continue my work that I feel is the most important thing in my life. I will continue my 20+ year relationship with WWE and will appear on such marquee shows as Tribute to the Troops, WrestleMania, amongst others.

With the help of Beyond Sport, I founded Beyond Rugby Bermuda in 2010--which has been recognized as one of the world's best charities for work with at risk, gang focused, youth intervention. Beyond Rugby Bermuda won the 2014 NACRA Fair Play Award out of 7,000 programs and 17 countries for its work with at risk kids. I was named as a Beyond Sport Global Ambassador--an organization backed by all major sports leagues in the U.S.

I'm proud to say that in addition to being Smackdown's longest reigning WWE Champion, I inspired WWE's Tribute to the Troops over 10 years ago. WWE has been my partner in all my philanthropic works and this new deal with WWE ensures that will continue. WWE has made my dreams come true and helped me become a global name. And now, WWE is helping me use that name to make a difference.

Agent Coulson · 04-09-2017 07:29PM

So will we see Mauro bumped back up to Smackdown now I wonder.

Itssoeasy · 04-09-2017 07:31PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

So will we see Mauro bumped back up to Smackdown now I wonder.

No apparently Corey graves is doing both raw and smackdown.

Monokne · 04-09-2017 07:37PM

Nigel getting the main roster call up way sooner than anticipated. Hopefully Vince cares so little about Main Event and 205 Live that he doesn't get ruined.

I really don't know why Lawler doesn't get one of the spots. Who gives a **** what age he is, he's good at his job. Graves is good but overexposure does no one any favours.

Interesting that SI noted JBL was not the primary person of interest in the Mauro-bullying story, buried in their piece about him stepping away

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2017/09/04/jbl-quits-commentary-wwe-smackdown-live

"Upon further review, Layfield was not the primary person of interest behind the Ranallo situation, which has allegedly been resolved with his return to the company, nor was he ever disciplined by the company for anything related to Ranallo.

WWE Chairman and CEO Vince McMahon, exhibiting the same stubbornness that helped turn his company into a global juggernaut, refused to cave to public pressure to fire Layfield, especially after Layfield served as the scapegoat in the Ranallo situation that was far more centered on Ranallo’s frustration with the culture and climate toward bullying that he believed McMahon had built within the company."

Lord TSC · 08-09-2017 02:28PM

From the latest Observer. While talking about JBL leaving SD, Meltzer added this bit:

Ranallo’s primary issues were not with Layfield, but with the culture in place at the time headed by Vince McMahon. Layfield was part of it, but not the key part of it. Layfield’s actions were the straw that broke the camel’s back in a situation that has been resolved enough to where Ranallo returned with the proviso he’s working and reporting to Michael Cole and Paul Levesque, neither of which he ever had any problems with and they were the two people who recruited him into the company in the first place.

jaykhunter · 09-09-2017 12:38AM

that's very interesting. What more was said about Vince?

sky88 · 09-09-2017 12:46AM

Is that not totally contradicty to what Meltzer said originally and it was mostly jbl??

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