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Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

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  • #1202
    Burial.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Burial.


    Floyd via DQ
    As a massive boxing fanboy I shamelessly want him to be embarrassed just so it guarantees this sort of nonsense never happens again, in Boxing or in MMA.


  • #1203
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,434 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Burial. wrote: »
    As a massive boxing fanboy I shamelessly want him to be embarrassed just so it guarantees this sort of nonsense never happens again, in Boxing or in MMA.

    That is also my feeling....kind of torn!


  • #1204
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Conor via KO-TKO
    Gintonious wrote: »
    HA!!!! The only reason he is doing this fight IS FOR THE MONEY!!!!

    No it's not. It's one of the reasons.

    He could make a dozen Hollywood movies in the next few years and make $100 million without being punched once.

    He wants to prove to people he's the best combat sports athlete on the planet.


  • #1205
    Sweet Science
    Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    I think an injury to Floyd is his best chance .


  • #1206
    walshb
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    Floyd via KO-TKO
    wonderfullife wrote: »
    He wants to prove to people he's the best combat sports athlete on the planet.

    :D


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  • #1207
    Sweet Science
    Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    wonderfullife wrote: »
    No it's not. It's one of the reasons.

    He could make a dozen Hollywood movies in the next few years and make $100 million without being punched once.

    He wants to prove to people he's the best combat sports athlete on the planet.

    I reckon its 5% his ego makes him think he can land one big shot and 95% the dollar bills.


  • #1208
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Conor via KO-TKO
    walshb wrote: »
    Yes, you have him at .001 percent and others at .0001 percent!:p

    I'm on record as saying the score after 8 rounds will be 77-75 or 78-74.

    Make what you want of that.


  • #1209
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Conor via KO-TKO
    Sweet Science wrote: »
    I reckon its 5% his ego makes him think he can land one big shot and 95% the dollar bills.

    Huge self-belief or huge self-delusion, depends on your perspective.

    But he defo believes it.


  • #1210
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,434 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    wonderfullife wrote: »
    I'm on record as saying the score after 8 rounds will be 77-75 or 78-74.

    Make what you want of that.

    That's a different discussion. I am on about chances of winning...

    You just gave a score there.....

    But looking at your predicted score you are giving him a 0 percent chance. Deluded!


  • #1211
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,434 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    wonderfullife wrote: »
    Huge self-belief or huge self-delusion, depends on your perspective.

    But he defo believes it.

    If it's huge delusion then it kind of rubbishes the belief..


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  • #1212
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Conor via KO-TKO
    walshb wrote: »
    That's a different discussion. I am on about chances of winning...

    You just gave a score there.....

    But looking at your predicted score you are giving him a 0 percent chance. Deluded!

    Ha.

    I think it'll be 5-3 or 6-2 in rounds in Floyd's favour at the start of the 9th. If Conor's chin holds up he will need to win the last 3 rounds.

    Obviously Floyd might just KO him in 8 seconds and I'll spend the rest of the night making "I'm a moron" posts on boards.ie


  • #1213
    Frank Bullitt
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    Floyd via DQ
    wonderfullife wrote: »
    No it's not. It's one of the reasons.

    He could make a dozen Hollywood movies in the next few years and make $100 million without being punched once.

    He wants to prove to people he's the best combat sports athlete on the planet.

    Hollywood? What?

    Its all about the money man, don't be silly here. If he wanted to prove he is the best combat sports athlete then he would just stick with MMA.

    But he won't get 100M for that.


  • #1214
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Conor via KO-TKO
    walshb wrote: »
    If it's huge delusion then it kind of rubbishes the belief..

    If you genuinely believe something, even though the evidence points against it, then it's delusion.

    For example, before Conor was even signed to the UFC and with a record of 7-2 (poor), he said he was going to be a 2-weight UFC world Champion.

    That statement was objectively delusional at the time he made it.

    But he believed it and that's all that mattered.


  • #1215
    wonderfullife
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    Conor via KO-TKO
    Gintonious wrote: »
    Hollywood? What?

    Its all about the money man, don't be silly here. If he wanted to prove he is the best combat sports athlete then he would just stick with MMA.

    But he won't get 100M for that.

    If Conor's only motivation in life was money, I guarantee you right now with his level of celebrity he could make $100 - $120 million doing other things in the next 5-10 years. Making movies. Doing tv shows. Endorsement deals. Stuff that doesn't involve being punched.

    To be the best "combat sports athlete" you're right the UFC is where the best fighters are.

    But in the minds of the general public, many people think boxers are the best real fighters, which is silly but that's a common perception out there. So he would have to beat the King to prove he's the best combat athlete.


  • #1216
    Sweet Science
    Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    Define real fighter


  • #1217
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Floyd via DQ
    wonderfullife wrote: »
    If Conor's only motivation in life was money, I guarantee you right now with his level of celebrity he could make $100 - $120 million doing other things in the next 5-10 years. Making movies. Doing tv shows. Endorsement deals. Stuff that doesn't involve being punched.

    To be the best "combat sports athlete" you're right the UFC is where the best fighters are.

    But in the minds of the general public, many people think boxers are the best real fighters, which is silly but that's a common perception out there. So he would have to beat the King to prove he's the best combat athlete.

    He is already on his way to a large fortune without this fight. Just look at his previous comments about money at press conferences.

    Its all about money, simple as that mate. You can try say its not, but why would he bark on and on and on about it at press conferences, how he talked to Dos Anjos, talking about the valuation of the UFC, telling people how much his clothing costs etc.

    Be real here man.


  • #1218
    begbysback
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    Floyd via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    Stop messing....

    Snooker is barely a sport!

    Ah cmon, didn't mark king fight Quinton hand a while back?


  • #1219
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,434 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    wonderfullife wrote: »
    If Conor's only motivation in life was money

    Nobody is saying this. Some think his motivation regarding this event is money. I agree that it is, at least the bulk of his motivation.

    And nobody is criticizing him for it. It makes sense. It's natural. You seem to take all differing views on this as somehow being an attack on Conor personally. Odd....


  • #1220
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    You could argue hes only motivated by cash now that hes achieved immortality in mma by winning 2 titles the way he dreamed of.


  • #1221
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Conor via KO-TKO
    walshb wrote: »
    Nobody is saying this. Some think his motivation regarding this event is money. I agree that it is, at least the bulk of his motivation.

    And nobody is criticizing him for it. It makes sense. It's natural. You seem to take all differing views on this as somehow being an attack on Conor personally. Odd....

    Part of the motivation is money.

    But that comment applies to every UFC fight he takes too.

    He's a prize fighter, so is Floyd. They're not going to get in there for nothing.


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  • #1222
    Frank Bullitt
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    Floyd via DQ
    wonderfullife wrote: »
    Part of the motivation is money.

    But that comment applies to every UFC fight he takes too.

    He's a prize fighter, so is Floyd. They're not going to get in there for nothing.

    Not to be pedantic here, but a Prizefighter is traditionally related to a boxer. So Conor is not a prize fighter, just yet ;)


  • #1223
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Conor via KO-TKO
    Sweet Science wrote: »
    Define real fighter

    Well, this is not my definition but if you asked a random person with no interest in sports 'who is the best fighter in the world?' for years they'd have given answers like Muhammad Ali.

    But if you put Ali in his prime against Stipe Miocic with no rules or limited rules, Ali would be killed.

    So he was clearly just an amazing boxer.

    My own definition of a "real fighter" or "best fighter" would be something like in Ancient Rome. Put 2 human beings in an enclosed space with no escape, no weapons, no interference and who would win in a fight to the death.

    On that basis, boxers with no knowledge of wrestling, jiujitsu, muay-thai etc would have almost no chance.

    Demian Maia walks around at about 190lbs and cuts to 170lbs. In a fight to the death against Anthony Joshua at 245lbs, Maia would be 1/50 favourite. He'd ankle pick or double leg him and have him dead within 60 seconds.

    Anyway, that's just my opinion and stuff. Boxers are tremendous warriors and extremely skillful but they're not the best fighters in the world.


  • #1224
    walshb
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    Floyd via KO-TKO
    wonderfullife wrote: »
    Part of the motivation is money.

    But that comment applies to every UFC fight he takes too.

    He's a prize fighter, so is Floyd. They're not going to get in there for nothing.

    What is the other part of his motivation?

    And don't give me that nonsense about him believing he truly can beat Maywether and show the word that it was him all along that had the blueprint?

    Even if you said that he loved the spotlight I'd agree..

    For me it's the money and the spotlight. Nothing more. Best of luck to him.


  • #1225
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,434 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    wonderfullife wrote: »



    Demian Maia walks around at about 190lbs and cuts to 170lbs. In a fight to the death against Anthony Joshua at 245lbs, Maia would be 1/50 favourite. He'd ankle pick or double leg him and have him dead within 60 seconds.

    .

    Yes, and one clean shot from AJ and it's lights out.....

    Oh, but he doesn't get to land it blah blah blah. Maybe so.


  • #1226
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Conor via KO-TKO
    walshb wrote: »
    What is the other part of his motivation?

    And don't give me that nonsense about him believing he truly can beat Maywether and show the word that it was him all along that had the blueprint?

    Even if you said that he loved the spotlight I'd agree..

    For me it's the money and the spotlight. Nothing more. Best of luck to him.

    Even if you're right (and you're not), then the motivation in beating him is also money.

    Conor is a huge star already. He becomes a supernova if he waltzes into boxing and beats Floyd.

    His earning potential could double or triple if he beats Floyd. If he's sponsored now by the likes of Monster, Budweiser and Reebok, you don't think if he beats Floyd there'd be offers flying in from Coke, McDonalds, Emirates Airlines the works?

    So even if money is all that motivates him, the lure of future mega-money in beating Floyd is also a massive motivation.

    He'd be a fool to view this as a $100 million payday to go in and lose. He'd be very wise to train his ass off and try win, because winning changes everything.


  • #1227
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Conor via KO-TKO
    walshb wrote: »
    Yes, and one clean shot from AJ and it's lights out.....

    Oh, but he doesn't get to land it blah blah blah. Maybe so.

    There's no maybe lol. You don't honestly believe Joshua would have a chance against Maia in a fight to the death?

    Don't answer that we'll be here all day.

    Gamebred back me up on this..... Maia single or double legs him and strangles AJ in 60 seconds right?


  • #1228
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,434 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    wonderfullife wrote: »

    Gamebred back me up on this..... Maia single or double legs him and strangles AJ in 60 seconds right?

    Yes, AJ, just stand still there for a second I'd like to do what I want to you...

    Oh if it only was that simple....


  • #1229
    noc1980
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    Isn't Conor, by continuing to be coached by JK and sparring Artem, all but admitting he's not taking this fight seriously? Without John Kavanagh there would be no McGregor but c'mon, despite JK being a jiu jitsu coach McGregor brought in another jiu jitsu expert Dillon Danis for the Diaz rematch, but he doesn't see a need to have ONE real boxing coach for a fight of this magnitude?

    JK had a good point about needing to approach Floyd with something different but I heard Teddy Atlas talking about what advice he'd give Conor and he briefly discussed not rushing in, disguising the left hand with feints etc... Just seems like a waste not to avail of a top coach in some capacity for this event, especially since it's not like Conor won't have the money to pay for it.


  • #1230
    wonderfullife
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    Conor via KO-TKO
    walshb wrote: »
    Yes, AJ, just stand still there for a second I'd like to do what I want to you...

    Oh if it only was that simple....

    It really is. Sigh you really believe boxers have a good chance don't you. I thought you were kidding.


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  • #1231
    walshb
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    Floyd via KO-TKO
    wonderfullife wrote: »
    It really is. Sigh you really believe boxers have a good chance don't you. I thought you were kidding.

    No, just pointing out the idiocy of your such certainty!


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