Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

Gamebred wrote: »

If Davis and one other legit fight is on the card i'd consider paying the ppv, not paying it for that exhibition main fight.

wonder will go through you if he sees this.....exhibition? How very dare you!

Lukker-

Gamebred wrote: »

If Davis and one other legit fight is on the card i'd consider paying the ppv, not paying it for that exhibition main fight.

The undercard for MayPac was ruined for me because of the joint promotion between Top Rank and Mayweather Promotions. Good fighters like Loma were on the undercard but didn't really get any sort of push or promotion.

Didn't help that the majority of the affluent and celebrity crowd didn't turn up until 5 mins before the main event.

wonderfullife

Conor via KO-TKO

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

4.6m is the biggest pay perview ever. Depends on the price but hard to see this surpass Mayweather/Pac man. Ufc poor enough numbers in comparison to any mayweather fight so say they manage to drag in their highest ever 1.6

On reflection, I predict the PPV will do 5.7 million buys at $99.99/$109.99 HD with a ceiling of 6.4 million.

I spent a good few hours going through social media numbers from the Mayweather-Pacquiao announcement. I went through mainstream media coverage of that fight announcement. I went through a series of google search comparisons.

Conor v Floyd smokes the Pacquiao fight (so far). It will only get bigger when the pressers start and Conor does his usual stuff. The boxing media, sports media and mainstream media are going to eat it up in ways unseen before.

More to the point, Mayweather-Pacquiao didn't have the casual fan interest. By that I mean it sure had casual SPORTS fans interested but May-Mac is attracting casuals who wouldn't know the rules of baseball, soccer or tennis if their life depended on it but will pony up the $100 because they'll want to be able to talk about the fight in work on Monday morning.

You're all underestimating the gravity of this fight. It's going to absolutely demolish every known record on the books. Even the Gate for the event at T-Mobile is projected to be $78 million, which is incredible to beat May-Pac by over $7 million if that bears out.

The current over/under on PPV buys is Over/Under 4.99 million. Anyone with sense and money will stomp on the Over.

walshb wrote: »

wonder will go through you if he sees this.....exhibition? How very dare you!

Yeah Gamebred has lost the plot on this fight but it's all good, he's still the man. I thought he knew better by now than to doubt Conor. I still believe Conor will lose but it's going to be a cracker of a fight. Conor will live on his chin until his chin gives out.

I can see a scenario where Conor hurts Floyd early before ultimately being worn down by Floyd's superior cardio. Conor will be carrying 18lbs more weight in there.

Mellor

Draw

Burial. wrote: »

What would you have the over/under as?

Good question. I'd probably go as far as setbthe O/U at 4.6m, the current record.


Edit: just seen the above. Official O/U is 5m, hmmm.

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

wonderfullife wrote: »

Yeah Gamebred has lost the plot on this fight but it's all good, he's still the man. I thought he knew better by now than to doubt Conor. I still believe Conor will lose but it's going to be a cracker of a fight. Conor will live on his chin until his chin gives out.

I can see a scenario where Conor hurts Floyd early before ultimately being worn down by Floyd's superior cardio. Conor will be carrying 18lbs more weight in there.

Wow...a lot less hostile and insulting today. What's up?

Cracker of a fight my ar%e....

One man hitting thin air and arms-shoulders and being taken apart is far from cracking.

wonderfullife

Conor via KO-TKO

walshb wrote: »

Wow...a lot less hostile and insulting today. What's up?

Cracker of a fight my ar%e....

One man hitting thin air and arms-shoulders and being taken apart is far from cracking.

Yeah, you're entitled to your opinions but Conor will do very well on fight night and prove your opinions were silly.

I'm open to eating crow if Floyd destroys him.

Gamebred

Floyd via KO-TKO

wonderfullife wrote: »

Yeah, you're entitled to your opinions but Conor will do very well on fight night and prove your opinions were silly.

I'm open to eating crow if Floyd destroys him.

Will bet you a username change he gets finished? :pac:

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

wonderfullife wrote: »

Yeah, you're entitled to your opinions but Conor will do very well on fight night and prove your opinions were silly.

I'm open to eating crow if Floyd destroys him.

And does that mean that my opinions go from silly to not silly, and yours from not silly to silly?

wonderfullife

Conor via KO-TKO

walshb wrote: »

And does that mean that my opinions go from silly to not silly, and yours from not silly to silly?

Good question.

I suppose it depends? If Floyd slips and breaks his leg after 10 seconds and is carried off on a stretcher then obviously that wouldn't vindicate any opinions.

But in a fight with no injuries, if Floyd destroys or embarrasses Conor I will come back on this thread and say I was clueless and delusional.

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

wonderfullife wrote: »

Good question.

I suppose it depends? If Floyd slips and breaks his leg after 10 seconds and is carried off on a stretcher then obviously that wouldn't vindicate any opinions.

But in a fight with no injuries, if Floyd destroys or embarrasses Conor I will come back on this thread and say I was clueless and delusional.

I love it...

And if Conor somehow manages to make it decent and competitive I will call in my fix claim!

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman

Floyd via DQ

wonderfullife wrote: »

On reflection, I predict the PPV will do 5.7 million buys at $99.99/$109.99 HD with a ceiling of 6.4 million.

I spent a good few hours going through social media numbers from the Mayweather-Pacquiao announcement. I went through mainstream media coverage of that fight announcement. I went through a series of google search comparisons.

Conor v Floyd smokes the Pacquiao fight (so far). It will only get bigger when the pressers start and Conor does his usual stuff. The boxing media, sports media and mainstream media are going to eat it up in ways unseen before.

More to the point, Mayweather-Pacquiao didn't have the casual fan interest. By that I mean it sure had casual SPORTS fans interested but May-Mac is attracting casuals who wouldn't know the rules of baseball, soccer or tennis if their life depended on it but will pony up the $100 because they'll want to be able to talk about the fight in work on Monday morning.

You're all underestimating the gravity of this fight. It's going to absolutely demolish every known record on the books. Even the Gate for the event at T-Mobile is projected to be $78 million, which is incredible to beat May-Pac by over $7 million if that bears out.

The current over/under on PPV buys is Over/Under 4.99 million. Anyone with sense and money will stomp on the Over.




Yeah Gamebred has lost the plot on this fight but it's all good, he's still the man. I thought he knew better by now than to doubt Conor. I still believe Conor will lose but it's going to be a cracker of a fight. Conor will live on his chin until his chin gives out.

I can see a scenario where Conor hurts Floyd early before ultimately being worn down by Floyd's superior cardio. Conor will be carrying 18lbs more weight in there.

It could easily go over the 5m mark, as big a circus as both are trying to create for it. In all likelyhood this is it for Mayweather his final hurrah, he's got what he wanted all along a big draw and a guaranteed huge amount of cash that he can lose in the Vegas betting books over the coming four or five years.

With the type of money McGregor will make from this fight thats surely him done too. Why would he go back to making a pittance in the UFC? I imagine his post fight speech will mention the thanks for the cheese line and that he's officially retired.

Sweet Science

Conor on points

wonderfullife wrote: »

On reflection, I predict the PPV will do 5.7 million buys at $99.99/$109.99 HD with a ceiling of 6.4 million.

I spent a good few hours going through social media numbers from the Mayweather-Pacquiao announcement. I went through mainstream media coverage of that fight announcement. I went through a series of google search comparisons.

Conor v Floyd smokes the Pacquiao fight (so far). It will only get bigger when the pressers start and Conor does his usual stuff. The boxing media, sports media and mainstream media are going to eat it up in ways unseen before.

More to the point, Mayweather-Pacquiao didn't have the casual fan interest. By that I mean it sure had casual SPORTS fans interested but May-Mac is attracting casuals who wouldn't know the rules of baseball, soccer or tennis if their life depended on it but will pony up the $100 because they'll want to be able to talk about the fight in work on Monday morning.

You're all underestimating the gravity of this fight. It's going to absolutely demolish every known record on the books. Even the Gate for the event at T-Mobile is projected to be $78 million, which is incredible to beat May-Pac by over $7 million if that bears out.

The current over/under on PPV buys is Over/Under 4.99 million. Anyone with sense and money will stomp on the Over.




Yeah Gamebred has lost the plot on this fight but it's all good, he's still the man. I thought he knew better by now than to doubt Conor. I still believe Conor will lose but it's going to be a cracker of a fight. Conor will live on his chin until his chin gives out.

I can see a scenario where Conor hurts Floyd early before ultimately being worn down by Floyd's superior cardio. Conor will be carrying 18lbs more weight in there.

Can i ask you how a 0-0 boxer can hurt him ? What punch is he going to land ? How will his jab be to set it up ? What about his footwork , his feet seem to cross over which is terrible for a boxer . If his feet cross over he will be off balance everytime he tries to land.

Again i have no issue with the fight and will look forward to it . Its the way people are breaking it down without thinking about the actual mechanics of boxing that is hard to deal with.

wonderfullife

Conor via KO-TKO

walshb wrote: »

I love it...

And if Conor somehow manages to make it decent and competitive I will call in my fix claim!

:rolleyes:

On a serious note, Conor will need elements of luck to make it competitive. By luck I mean Floyd making a lot more mistakes than usual. He's still a human being at the end of the day, he can make a couple of mistakes that leave him open to body shots.

I honestly believe no fighter will ever have talked as much sh1t during the contest as Conor will to Floyd. So that'll be funny to watch. Floyd pinging him with shots and Conor doing his "that all you got b1tch?" routine.

Sure Chad Mendes was smashing Conor with elbows and busting his face open and Conor was yapping to him on the floor calling him a p.ussy :pac:

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman

Floyd via DQ

wonderfullife wrote: »

:rolleyes:

On a serious note, Conor will need elements of luck to make it competitive. By luck I mean Floyd making a lot more mistakes than usual. He's still a human being at the end of the day, he can make a couple of mistakes that leave him open to body shots.

I honestly believe no fighter will ever have talked as much sh1t during the contest as Conor will to Floyd. So that'll be funny to watch. Floyd pinging him with shots and Conor doing his "that all you got b1tch?" routine.

Sure Chad Mendes was smashing Conor with elbows and busting his face open and Conor was yapping to him on the floor calling him a p.ussy :pac:

Your fan boy love for McGregor is sweet really.

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

wonderfullife wrote: »

:rolleyes:

On a serious note, Conor will need elements of luck to make it competitive. By luck I mean Floyd making a lot more mistakes than usual. He's still a human being at the end of the day, he can make a couple of mistakes that leave him open to body shots.

Elements of luck? Yeh, I reckon you're right.:rolleyes:

I can do the roll eyes too.

wonderfullife

Conor via KO-TKO

Sweet Science wrote: »

Can i ask you how a 0-0 boxer can hurt him ? What punch is he going to land ? How will his jab be to set it up ? What about his footwork , his feet seem to cross over which is terrible for a boxer . If his feet cross over he will be off balance everytime he tries to land.

Again i have no issue with the fight and will look forward to it . Its the way people are breaking it down without thinking about the actual mechanics of boxing that is hard to deal with.

Conor's footwork and balance is exceptional in MMA.

I can link you to loads of articles if you want to read up on his footwork. He uses inside angles to counter rather than outside steps. He always exits combinations on an angle.

As for his balance, I'd argue Conor has better all-around balance than any boxer alive. By that, I mean for example when Denis Siver went to take him down and Conor show gymnastic level balance to never let his ass hit the floor.

Boxing is a different kettle of fish but if you're expecting Conor to be flat-footed, clumsy, off-balance, crossing-legs etc you won't be seeing any of that stuff.

He'll definitely do things you haven't see from many top-level boxers. One thing to look out for is his hop-step into a left straight. I've no idea how it will work on a top level defensive boxer but it works very well on someone with quick counters (which Floyd def has).

wonderfullife

Conor via KO-TKO

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

Your fan boy love for McGregor is sweet really.

You boxing people are like children.

Anyone with anything positive to say about Conor is a "fanboy".

If you read the thread in the MMA forum, I have criticized Conor dozens of times:

Over his friendship to the Kinahans and Byrne's.
Over his driving with no seat-belt with a pregnant girlfriend in the car
Over his 4-day benders sniffing Nitrous Oxide and doing coke
Over him calling Floyd a "malteser with eyeballs"
Over his money-grabs with 24Option sponsorship

A "fanboy" worships their star and treats them as they can do no wrong. I'm a fan of his who thinks he has certain shots that might trouble Floyd. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

Bunch of 12-year-old dorks in here.

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

One area where I see Conor being next to useless in this match is in close. He will jot have the mechanics to maneuver and dig to Floyd's body. Any in close encounters where Floyd decides to work and we could see a body shot KO.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman

Floyd via DQ

wonderfullife wrote: »

You boxing people are like children.

Anyone with anything positive to say about Conor is a "fanboy".

If you read the thread in the MMA forum, I have criticized Conor dozens of times:

Over his friendship to the Kinahans and Byrne's.
Over his driving with no seat-belt with a pregnant girlfriend in the car
Over his 4-day benders sniffing Nitrous Oxide and doing coke
Over him calling Floyd a "malteser with eyeballs"
Over his money-grabs with 24Option sponsorship

A "fanboy" worships their star and treats them as they can do no wrong. I'm a fan of his who thinks he has certain shots that might trouble Floyd. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

Bunch of 12-year-old dorks in here.

Go on admit it, you have McGregor Pj's and a life size poster on your wall.

It's ok :D:D

wonderfullife

Conor via KO-TKO

walshb wrote: »

One area where I see Conor being next to useless in this match is in close. He will jot have the mechanics to maneuver and dig to Floyd's body. Any in close encounters where Floyd decides to work and we could see a body shot KO.

Can't speak for boxing but Conor is exceptionally talented in close in MMA. He has beautiful counters in the clinch and exiting the clinch and an under-rated right hook to the body.

The issue is many of his counters in the clinch in MMA are elbows and kicks.

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

wonderfullife wrote: »

You boxing people are like children.

Anyone with anything positive to say about Conor is a "fanboy".

If you read the thread in the MMA forum, I have criticized Conor dozens of times:

Over his friendship to the Kinahans and Byrne's.
Over his driving with no seat-belt with a pregnant girlfriend in the car
Over his 4-day benders sniffing Nitrous Oxide and doing coke
Over him calling Floyd a "malteser with eyeballs"
Over his money-grabs with 24Option sponsorship

A "fanboy" worships their star and treats them as they can do no wrong. I'm a fan of his who thinks he has certain shots that might trouble Floyd. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

Bunch of 12-year-old dorks in here.

Didn't take you long to show your OTT fanaticism for Conor.

Just accept that not everyone sees or agrees with what you are saying regarding the match.

I don't see the point getting petty and insulting about it.

And for the record, there are many millions of non boxing fans who don't agree with your views too as regards Conor going to be anyway competitive here.

This disagreement is not a boxing thing!

Mellor

Draw

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote:

With the type of money McGregor will make from this fight thats surely him done too. Why would he go back to making a pittance in the UFC?

This stands to be his biggest payout ever of course. But I wouldn't call his previous earnings a pittance. I mean, in the top 25 highest paid athletes in the world is never a pittance.

Pacquiao earned 9 figures against Mayweather, and fought on. Fighting next week in Brisbane.

wonderfullife

Conor via KO-TKO

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

Go on admit it, you have McGregor Pj's and a life size poster on your wall.

It's ok :D:D

Anything constructive to add on the fight or do you just want to continue spouting absolute drivel all thread?

Predicting 2.4 million PPV buys haha....You're absolutely clueless and acting like a child.

Discuss the fight or give it a rest.

wonderfullife

Conor via KO-TKO

walshb wrote: »

Didn't take you long to show your OTT fanaticism for Conor.

How in God's name is predicting Conor will land some shots viewed as "OTT fanaticism"?

Anyone thinking he'll do well is a fanatic?

Sweet Science

Conor on points

wonderfullife wrote: »

Conor's footwork and balance is exceptional in MMA.

I can link you to loads of articles if you want to read up on his footwork. He uses inside angles to counter rather than outside steps. He always exits combinations on an angle.

As for his balance, I'd argue Conor has better all-around balance than any boxer alive. By that, I mean for example when Denis Siver went to take him down and Conor show gymnastic level balance to never let his ass hit the floor.

Boxing is a different kettle of fish but if you're expecting Conor to be flat-footed, clumsy, off-balance, crossing-legs etc you won't be seeing any of that stuff.

He'll definitely do things you haven't see from many top-level boxers. One thing to look out for is his hop-step into a left straight. I've no idea how it will work on a top level defensive boxer but it works very well on someone with quick counters (which Floyd def has).

So you think he will approach this fight from a MMA perspective ? He will try turn it into a MMA striking bout with boxing gloves on ?

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

wonderfullife wrote: »

How in God's name is predicting Conor will land some shots viewed as "OTT fanaticism"?

Anyone thinking he'll do well is a fanatic?

Read the rest of the post I quoted from you..

As for the PPV numbers. I agree with you. This will be monstrous.

wonderfullife

Conor via KO-TKO

Sweet Science wrote: »

So you think he will approach this fight from a MMA perspective ? He will try turn it into a MMA striking bout with boxing gloves on ?

Did you read his Coach (John Kavanagh) interview in the 42.ie from 2 weeks back?

He said they are approaching the fight from an MMA perspective because it would be foolish to approach it from a boxing perspective given Conor is not a boxer.

I said on the other thread, I think he will throw combinations he is familiar with (lead hand uppercut/left cross), (left straight to body, right hook), (right jab, rear hand uppercut).

Whether they land is completely another point and you're welcome to laugh at Conor/his Coach for thinking they'll land.

But i do believe they will go back to combinations Conor knows than try learn new ones.

walshb wrote: »

Read the rest of the post I quoted from you..

As for the PPV numbers. I agree with you. This will be monstrous.

I knew one day we would agree

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman

Floyd via DQ

wonderfullife wrote: »

Anything constructive to add on the fight or do you just want to continue spouting absolute drivel all thread?

Predicting 2.4 million PPV buys haha....You're absolutely clueless and acting like a child.

Discuss the fight or give it a rest.

Only one person acting like a child here, that would be you my good man. Your views on how good McGregor is going to be in the boxing ring is really what led to the fanboy comment. Your basing it on his UFC career nothing that you've actually seen with regards to his boxing ability.

But you know what McGregor has surprised alot of people most of his career. He apparently has been training for this since the Alvarez fight and he's got a good left hand. Most UFC and boxers are saying he has a punchers chance, I suppose in a way they are discounting Mayweather's chin and ability to stay on his feet.

All in all it'll be entertainment at least up until the fight. Regardless though it's great to read your little rants about how good Conor is going to be in the boxing ring!

Sweet Science

Conor on points

Im sure he will throw them i just cant see them landing to be honest .

I just wish August 26th was tomorrow

wonderfullife

Conor via KO-TKO

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

Only one person acting like a child here, that would be you my good man. Your views on how good McGregor is going to be in the boxing ring is really what led to the fanboy comment. Your basing it on his UFC career nothing that you've actually seen with regards to his boxing ability.

But you know what McGregor has surprised alot of people most of his career. He apparently has been training for this since the Alvarez fight and he's got a good left hand. Most UFC and boxers are saying he has a punchers chance, I suppose in a way they are discounting Mayweather's chin and ability to stay on his feet.

All in all it'll be entertainment at least up until the fight. Regardless though it's great to read your little rants about how good Conor is going to be in the boxing ring!

Ha

True. I mean look... I just don't understand why people are dismissing it as a fight.

Conor will have to try throw some punches at Floyd. I think we can all agree when he gets into a ring he has to try throw punches!

I'm just speculating that some of the punches might land. Floyd isn't a robot and has never (ever) gone a full round without being hit. Shane Mosley only landed 3 punches in Round 7 according to Compubox and Maidana landed 2 punches in one round of the rematch... but I can't see any fight where nobody landed even a body shot.

Conor might suck compared to those guys or he might be brilliant. Who knows. Even if we take the van Heerden footage at face value, sure van Heerden dominated the sparring but Conor still timed him and landed lots of shots.