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Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

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  • #1082
    begbysback
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Floyd via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    What?

    Either way it's a bank robbery

    Even if all is above board (as in both men out to win with no arrangement in place as to how the fight unfolds) it's a bank robbery/farce. By its very nature it is.

    Well if it is a bank robbery then it's equivalent to a 2'5 midget waking up to the counter with a feather in his hand and saying "please give me the money, but if you don't want to then that's ok, and I'll see myself out - thanks"


  • #1083
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,432 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    begbysback wrote: »
    Well if it is a bank robbery then it's equivalent to a 2'5 midget waking up to the counter with a feather in his hand and saying "please give me the money, but if you don't want to then that's ok, and I'll see myself out - thanks"

    I see what you mean....

    Look, I am paying for it and I believe it to be nothing more than a novelty act.

    Many people will feel the same and still buy it.....

    It's not a forced bank robbery, but if people are truly believing this to be legitimate and fair and real sport then they are off their rockers.

    It is similar to WWE.

    The playing field is no different than an NFL 11 trotting onto the Nou Camp and giving their best to beat Barca at soccer...

    Would anyone really see that as true sport and fair sport? They should see it as a novelty act.


  • #1084
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,339 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Floyd via DQ
    How do we think the pricing is going to be this side? Usual PPV from sky or more in line with the American boxing model which being Mayweather can be up around $100 a pop

    That is all I can see affecting the buy rate, other then that it should have a realistic shot at beating the MayPac number

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #1085
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    begbysback wrote: »
    It seems the forecast is anywhere between 3.5 to 5.5

    4.6m is the biggest pay perview ever. Depends on the price but hard to see this surpass Mayweather/Pac man. Ufc poor enough numbers in comparison to any mayweather fight so say they manage to drag in their highest ever 1.6 I'm not sure how much mayweather will bring to the table as it's not a boxing match many of his fans will pay for. I reckon it tops out around the 3.5m mark. Still a record breaking number for a UFC fighter by a long long way


  • #1086
    Division
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭Division


    Floyd is odds on to KO McGregor. He hasn't knocked out anyone in a long time and Diaz tested McGregors chin and he passed.

    I have no idea how this will turn out except McGregor only wins with a KO in the first 6 rounds.


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  • #1087
    yabadabado
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,634 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    Floyd via DQ
    I genuinely see no way McGregor wins this .I know people are saying anything can happen,punchers chance etc but no way can I see it.


  • #1088
    begbysback
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Floyd via DQ
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »
    4.6m is the biggest pay perview ever. Depends on the price but hard to see this surpass Mayweather/Pac man. Ufc poor enough numbers in comparison to any mayweather fight so say they manage to drag in their highest ever 1.6 I'm not sure how much mayweather will bring to the table as it's not a boxing match many of his fans will pay for. I reckon it tops out around the 3.5m mark. Still a record breaking number for a UFC fighter by a long long way

    Yea, but there is surely a huge market of people who wouldn't go out if their way to watch mma, and those who see little entertainment value in watching the usual Mayweather fights - but will watch this fight.

    Granted Pac most likely carries much of the Asian market with him, and it was the most wanted fight of the last 25 years


  • #1089
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,227 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Floyd via DQ
    Division wrote: »
    Floyd is odds on to KO McGregor. He hasn't knocked out anyone in a long time and Diaz tested McGregors chin and he passed.

    I have no idea how this will turn out except McGregor only wins with a KO in the first 6 rounds.

    He won't have to knock McGregor out cold for the Ref to stop it or his corner to pull him out. That's what will most likely happen.


  • #1090
    hbhook
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭hbhook


    Floyd via DQ
    I don't think it's in their interests to overcharge for this so I say the standard (or new) Sky price of around 24e. Actually I think the media that I've watched has been surprisingly frank about this match-up. Crikey...I just watched a video of Mc punching flying cards!! I think surely it was released for a laugh!


  • #1091
    xtal191
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,534 ✭✭✭xtal191


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Division wrote: »
    Floyd is odds on to KO McGregor. He hasn't knocked out anyone in a long time and Diaz tested McGregors chin and he passed.

    I have no idea how this will turn out except McGregor only wins with a KO in the first 6 rounds.

    Mayweather will be the heaviest hitter McGregor has ever fought


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  • #1092
    Sweet Science
    Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    xtal191 wrote: »
    Mayweather will be the heaviest hitter McGregor has ever fought

    Yep

    You would imagine the straight right lands at will after a couple of rounds


  • #1093
    Joeseph Balls
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭Joeseph Balls


    Floyd via DQ
    begbysback wrote: »
    Could actually be the beginning of a new direction in sport - match up between different codes

    You mean, something like, MMA?


  • #1094
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Floyd via DQ


    Some footage of him sparring in this.


  • #1095
    Burial.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Burial.


    Floyd via DQ
    Floyd looking a little flabby, but's he 40, not in the cutting stage of camp and is still in better nick than a lot of fighters in their camps. He's going for the stoppage I believe.


  • #1096
    Lukker-
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    Burial. wrote: »
    Floyd looking a little flabby, but's he 40, not in the cutting stage of camp and is still in better nick than a lot of fighters in their camps. He's going for the stoppage I believe.

    Looks the same to me.


  • #1097
    Burial.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Burial.


    Floyd via DQ
    Lukker- wrote: »
    Looks the same to me.

    Not sure if it was in that vid but I was sent a vid today where he's walking around topless and he was flabby...still had visible abs but definitely the least cut I've seen him. Not that it's an issue, he's clearly going to be in a caloric surplus and hitting the weights these early weeks.


  • #1098
    Frank Bullitt
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    Floyd via DQ
    Jaysis, if I look like that when I am 40 I will never not smile.

    Him and Wlad proving that time isn't an issue to be in shape.


  • #1099
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,377 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Draw
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

    4.6m is the biggest pay perview ever. Depends on the price but hard to see this surpass Mayweather/Pac man. Ufc poor enough numbers in comparison to any mayweather fight so say they manage to drag in their highest ever 1.6
    I don't think that's accurate. Obviously Mayweather has the all time record (and second and third too). But it's not true "any Mayweather fight" does better. His most recent ppv did terrible numbers, 400k. Which is fairly average by UFC standards, but off the chart for Conor who lowest is 850k I believe. Across all PPVs they average about the same (1.3m Floyd, 1.27m Conor). But it's disengenous to compare directly as Floyd has 3 times as many PPVs.

    A few months ago I said if it happens, it would go to 2nd in all time PPV behind May-Pac. Which means 2.5m+ buys. But looking at the coverage since the official announcements, all bets are off. I think we're looking at anything in the 3-5m range now.
    Pro boxing ability aside, the fact is coming into this Conor is a bigger PPV draw than any of Floyds previous opponents.


  • #1100
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    Mellor wrote: »
    I don't think that's accurate. Obviously Mayweather has the all time record (and second and third too). But it's not true "any Mayweather fight" does better. His most recent ppv did terrible numbers, 400k. Which is fairly average by UFC standards, but off the chart for Conor who lowest is 850k I believe. Across all PPVs they average about the same (1.3m Floyd, 1.27m Conor). But it's disengenous to compare directly as Floyd has 3 times as many PPVs.

    A few months ago I said if it happens, it would go to 2nd in all time PPV behind May-Pac. Which means 2.5m+ buys. But looking at the coverage since the official announcements, all bets are off. I think we're looking at anything in the 3-5m range now.
    Pro boxing ability aside, the fact is coming into this Conor is a bigger PPV draw than any of Floyds previous opponents.

    Conor is not a bigger draw that Pacman, or De La Hoya for that matter.

    PPV has gotten more common and is increasing in size because of the work Mayweather, Pacman, De La Hoya etc have done over the years.

    Conor's biggest fight against Diaz 1.6m buys at what $49 was it?

    Mayweather's 4.6m at $99.

    This may break all records both sides are trying to promote the hell out of it but I have a feeling alot of people will prefer to watch it out and not pay for it in america. Will be like a carnival atmosphere on the night.


  • #1101
    AlmightyCushion
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    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »
    Conor is not a bigger draw that Pacman, or De La Hoya for that matter.

    PPV has gotten more common and is increasing in size because of the work Mayweather, Pacman, De La Hoya etc have done over the years.

    Conor's biggest fight against Diaz 1.6m buys at what $49 was it?

    Mayweather's 4.6m at $99.

    This may break all records both sides are trying to promote the hell out of it but I have a feeling alot of people will prefer to watch it out and not pay for it in america. Will be like a carnival atmosphere on the night.

    The UFC PPV numbers are only for north america. They don't include PPVs sold elsewhere probably because the UFC have TV deals elsewhere and the amount of PPVs sold wouldn't be all that much. Do the Mayweather PPVs just cover north america or do they cover worlwide PPVs? Was the Mayweather fight available in Europe on TV or did you have to pay for it?


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  • #1102
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman
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    Floyd via DQ
    AlmightyCushion wrote: »
    The UFC PPV numbers are only for north america. They don't include PPVs sold elsewhere probably because the UFC have TV deals elsewhere and the amount of PPVs sold wouldn't be all that much. Do the Mayweather PPVs just cover north america or do they cover worlwide PPVs? Was the Mayweather fight available in Europe on TV or did you have to pay for it?

    Just north America.


  • #1103
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,377 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Draw
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »
    Conor is not a bigger draw that Pacman, or De La Hoya for that matter.

    PPV has gotten more common and is increasing in size because of the work Mayweather, Pacman, De La Hoya etc have done over the years.
    I'm not talking about an on opinion somebody being subjective draw. Or relative to the era.
    I'm talking about the numbers they have actually pulled in.
    Coming into this, Conor's PPV numbers are bigger than any of Floyds previous opponents. That's a quantitiable fact.
    Conor's biggest fight against Diaz 1.6m buys at what $49 was it?
    Last 3 were 1.65m Diaz, 1.6 Alvarez, 1.35 Aldo, or there abouts.

    Prior to the Mayweather fight, Manny's highest PPV was 1.4m (Marquez).
    Oscar's was also 1.4m
    Mayweather's 4.6m at $99.
    I believe UFC PPVs are $59 now. I'd guess this will be $99 too.
    But I'm not sure of the relevance of the above tbh. I acknowledged Floyd/Pac holds the record. I said he rated higher than previous opponents, not higher than Floyd.

    Floyd has the top 3 PPVs or all time. Absolutely the biggest draw of all time.
    Tyson is at 4th and 5th.
    McGregor is at 6th and 7th I think.
    (Or something to that effect, there's no official numbers ever).

    May-Pac's 4.6m was off the charts. For various reasons it blew everything out of the water. A year ago I thought no fight could come close to that for years. Including the freakshow between Conor and Floyd. I said, 2.5m before. But I think it blows past that now. The record is a different story.

    It be an interesting market to bet on imho


  • #1104
    Burial.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Burial.


    Floyd via DQ
    Mellor wrote: »
    I'm not talking about an on opinion somebody being subjective draw. Or relative to the era.
    I'm talking about the numbers they have actually pulled in.
    Coming into this, Conor's PPV numbers are bigger than any of Floyds previous opponents. That's a quantitiable fact.


    Last 3 were 1.65m Diaz, 1.6 Alvarez, 1.35 Aldo, or there abouts.

    Prior to the Mayweather fight, Manny's highest PPV was 1.4m (Marquez).
    Oscar's was also 1.4m


    I believe UFC PPVs are $59 now. I'd guess this will be $99 too.
    But I'm not sure of the relevance of the above tbh. I acknowledged Floyd/Pac holds the record. I said he rated higher than previous opponents, not higher than Floyd.

    Floyd has the top 3 PPVs or all time. Absolutely the biggest draw of all time.
    Tyson is at 4th and 5th.
    McGregor is at 6th and 7th I think.
    (Or something to that effect, there's no official numbers ever).

    May-Pac's 4.6m was off the charts. For various reasons it blew everything out of the water. A year ago I thought no fight could come close to that for years. Including the freakshow between Conor and Floyd. I said, 2.5m before. But I think it blows past that now. The record is a different story.

    It be an interesting market to bet on Imho

    What would you have the over/under as?


  • #1105
    Gamebred
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    Floyd via KO-TKO
    What is the guess for ppv price here? 25e or will they try extort more..


  • #1106
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,432 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    I would be a little surprised if Sky pushed it beyond 25 euro.


  • #1107
    Gamebred
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    Floyd via KO-TKO
    walshb wrote: »
    I would be a little surprised if Sky pushed it beyond 25 euro.



    Yeah anything above at that hour of morning isnt a smart idea surely.


  • #1108
    Lukker-
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    How much was MayPac on this side of the pond?


  • #1109
    maximoose
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    Floyd via DQ
    Lukker- wrote: »
    How much was MayPac on this side of the pond?

    €24.95


  • #1110
    Lukker-
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    maximoose wrote: »
    €24.95

    I'd wager it'll be the same, but Sky might try and price gouge seeing as it's the only time they'll have a CMG fight. Wouldn't be more than 29.99 though.


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  • #1111
    Gamebred
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    Floyd via KO-TKO
    If Davis and one other legit fight is on the card i'd consider paying the ppv, not paying it for that exhibition main fight.


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