Eir rural FTTH thread

BorneTobyWilde · 16-06-2017 04:55PM

The Cush wrote: »

The hardware may not be gigabit (1000 Mbps) capable and may only be capable of 100 Mbps (10/100 Ethernet).

How would I know this.
If I'm checking it correctly it's set to auto, but in list there is 1.0 gbps setting.

ED E · 16-06-2017 05:21PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

How would I know this.
If I'm checking it correctly it's set to auto, but in list there is 1.0 gbps setting.

By convention amber or amber + amber = 10/100 and Green or amber+green = 1000.

Otherwise right click on the adapter in windows and hit "status" not "properties".

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tsue921i8wljb3 · 16-06-2017 08:38PM

Gonzo wrote: »

Navi I see Dunshaughlin is listed as fully live and 550 premises passed and planned.

The original estimate was up to 570 planned.

The newly released rural exchange timeline lists us as 554 premises planned.

My house is one of 11 blue home icons in the Dunshaughlin area, perhaps they can all avail of FTTH already, but it's now very confusing to what the actual total is and will the original estimate of 570 be completed and if not, why did 16 premises get dropped from the list.

All the estimated figures came from Openeir. The 570 appeared in the first announcement on their site. The 550 came from a document dated March 2017 and then 554 in the latest pdf dated April 2017. I'd tend to believe the latest document as the others all had round numbers for premises which is unlikely to be the case.

I'd assume the original figures were just estimates and got revised when local surveys were done. The map says 550 premises are live. I'm unsure if that means 4 premises have been dropped or can't be done for some reason. I'll have to update the tracker with the latest planned figures.

BorneTobyWilde · 16-06-2017 09:19PM

ED E wrote: »

By convention amber or amber + amber = 10/100 and Green or amber+green = 1000.

Otherwise right click on the adapter in windows and hit "status" not "properties".

On Router ?
My router is old, 4 green lights. Means nothing.

BorneTobyWilde · 16-06-2017 09:21PM

Network Description
Intel (R) 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection .

Says that..........

MunsterCycling · 18-06-2017 09:42AM

The Cush wrote: »

The 50m from the NTP/150m from the splice box policy may be flexible on the ground. One of the lads posted here previously that the max distance from the splice box was 200m.

Did you have an existing copper phoneline to the house, if so was it ducted or overhead?

The policy

We had a ducted line but we had no service on that for many years having switched to VoIP when we got our Fixed Wireless provider installed.

The cable was not free in the duct though so it couldn't be used, I had addressed all that with the first installer and he appreciated only being on-site for 10 minutes (I'm in IT) so rang me later that day to say his boss had authorised the pole install. The duct wouldn't have been able to be used anyway as the fiber can only go 1m inside your premises and our DP is on the other side of the house from my Network cabinet & they can't run anything through the attic. :rolleyes:

Johnboy1951 · 18-06-2017 10:22AM

MunsterCycling wrote: »

We had a ducted line but we had no service on that for many years having switched to VoIP when we got our Fixed Wireless provider installed.

The cable was not free in the duct though so it couldn't be used, I had addressed all that with the first installer and he appreciated only being on-site for 10 minutes (I'm in IT) so rang me later that day to say his boss had authorised the pole install. The duct wouldn't have been able to be used anyway as the fiber can only go 1m inside your premises and our DP is on the other side of the house from my Network cabinet & they can't run anything through the attic. :rolleyes:

It has been posted that if the duct ends inside the building then they will use it, even if that point is inside the building by more than a metre or not.

The Cush · 18-06-2017 11:14AM

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

It has been posted that if the duct ends inside the building then they will use it, even if that point is inside the building by more than a metre or not.

Many ducts end at the ETU with the internal telephone/Cat cabling running many meters from there to the main telephone point. I know a case where the ETU backs onto a bathroom, a case where the fibre to the ODU will have to run more than 1m.

Johnboy1951 · 18-06-2017 11:54AM

The Cush wrote: »

Many ducts end at the ETU with the internal telephone/Cat cabling running many meters from there to the main telephone point. I know a case where the ETU backs onto a bathroom, a case where the fibre to the ODU will have to run more than 1m.

The present telephone duct runs into the centre of my house.
The fibre will have to come into there, although it is >3 metres from the nearest exterior wall.

The duct wouldn't have been able to be used anyway as the fiber can only go 1m inside your premises

In my case the ETU will have to be inside the premises.

The Cush · 18-06-2017 12:31PM

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

In my case the ETU will have to be inside the premises.

As the ETU is just the external plastic enclosure you won't be having one as the duct runs all the way in, fibre direct to ODU barring any issues with the duct hopefully.

Johnboy1951 · 18-06-2017 12:36PM

The Cush wrote: »

As the ETU is just the external plastic enclosure you won't be having one as the duct runs all the way in, fibre direct to ODU barring any issues with the duct hopefully.

The duct should be OK, as it was exposed last year and checked.

Hopefully (whenever it becomes available) there will be no problem with direct to ODU.

tsiklon · 19-06-2017 01:50PM

Recently installed nearby after work by Eircom/KN. The 'KLN' code refers to Killarney exchange eventhough we would have been on the Ballyspillane 'BYS' exchange in the past.

As we got rid of the landline many years back, is this likely to slow up installation when it becomes possible to order? Is there an additional cost when you don't have a landline already?

knipex · 19-06-2017 02:36PM

tsiklon wrote: »

As we got rid of the landline many years back, is this likely to slow up installation when it becomes possible to order? Is there an additional cost when you don't have a landline already?

A fiber install requires a new line so the presence or lack of an existing copper line has no impact on cost..

I_HAVE_NO_NAME · 19-06-2017 06:19PM

Should I be worried that my premises is down to receive FTTH in summer of 2017 but there is absolutely no activity in the area? Or should i be just thankful that I'm even in the scheme:D

daraghwal · 19-06-2017 06:42PM

I_HAVE_NO_NAME wrote: »

Should I be worried that my premises is down to receive FTTH in summer of 2017 but there is absolutely no activity in the area? Or should i be just thankful that I'm even in the scheme:D

You will be getting it if your house is light blue on this map. http://www.dccae.gov.ie/en-ie/communications/topics/Broadband/national-broadband-plan/high-speed-broadband-map/Pages/Interactive-Map.aspx

Then go to this map http://fibrerollout.ie/rollout-map/ and look for your home. Trace back from your home along the yellow line to the nearest exchange (usually in the nearest village). Then zoom in on where the lines meet at the exchange and click on the little exchange icon. It might give a more accurate date there.

I_HAVE_NO_NAME · 19-06-2017 07:18PM

daraghwal wrote: »

You will be getting it if your house is light blue on this map. http://www.dccae.gov.ie/en-ie/communications/topics/Broadband/national-broadband-plan/high-speed-broadband-map/Pages/Interactive-Map.aspx

Then go to this map http://fibrerollout.ie/rollout-map/ and look for your home. Trace back from your home along the yellow line to the nearest exchange (usually in the nearest village). Then zoom in on where the lines meet at the exchange and click on the little exchange icon. It might give a more accurate date there.

I already had checked the open eir map and just says summer 2017. My only worries are that there is very little activity from either KN or eir in the deployment of the network. Is this network going to be 100% FTTH or could I end up with VDSL

The Cush · 19-06-2017 07:29PM

I_HAVE_NO_NAME wrote: »

. Is this network going to be 100% FTTH or could I end up with VDSL

On the NBP map is your house in the dark blue VDSL area or the light blue FTTH circle?

I_HAVE_NO_NAME · 19-06-2017 07:43PM

The Cush wrote: »

On the NBP map is your house in the dark blue VDSL area or the light blue FTTH circle?

The light blue where commercial operators have committed to deliver high speed broadband in rural areas. The commercial rollout to these areas is primarily Fibre to the Home (FTTH).

The Cush · 19-06-2017 08:00PM

I_HAVE_NO_NAME wrote: »

The commercial rollout to these areas is primarily Fibre to the Home (FTTH).

Yes.

irelandjoe · 19-06-2017 08:53PM

I_HAVE_NO_NAME wrote: »

Should I be worried that my premises is down to receive FTTH in summer of 2017 but there is absolutely no activity in the area? Or should i be just thankful that I'm even in the scheme:D

Same boat not heard anything and contacted Eir here and they have no update yet. I did contact openeir and they said will likely be Sept for me.

grouchyman · 19-06-2017 09:15PM

irelandjoe wrote: »

Same boat not heard anything and contacted Eir here and they have no update yet. I did contact openeir and they said will likely be Sept for me.

Irelandjoe how did you contact openeir?

I_HAVE_NO_NAME · 19-06-2017 09:32PM

irelandjoe wrote: »

Same boat not heard anything and contacted Eir here and they have no update yet. I did contact openeir and they said will likely be Sept for me.

We can't complain though! Neighbours down the road are into the next exchange and are in the amber section of the government map. I talked to eir in the live chat and was told I am able to receive super fast broadband and my line can support 50Mbit/s and i just laughed as I was 'advised' by the live chat to buy the €90 per month package:D My premises is literally on the fringe of my exchange and has been cut off from all of eirs ADSL and VDSL developments in recent years. I hope to god this FTTH scheme rectifies this as I am seriously getting sick of seeing Youtube videos buffering at 240p

irelandjoe · 19-06-2017 10:11PM

grouchyman wrote: »

Irelandjoe how did you contact openeir?

I sent an email to fibrepower@openeir.ie with my Eircode

Got reply within 3 days.

kaizersoze · 20-06-2017 12:25AM

tsiklon wrote: »

Recently installed nearby after work by Eircom/KN. The 'KLN' code refers to Killarney exchange eventhough we would have been on the Ballyspillane 'BYS' exchange in the past.

As we got rid of the landline many years back, is this likely to slow up installation when it becomes possible to order? Is there an additional cost when you don't have a landline already?

Jesus. Cable tied to the pole, low down and in the bushes.:eek:

Is that as 'high tech' as the rollout gets?

The Cush · 20-06-2017 12:35AM

kaizersoze wrote: »

Jesus. Cable tied to the pole, low down and in the bushes.:eek:

Is that as 'high tech' as the rollout gets?

Temporary fix

grouchyman · 20-06-2017 10:31AM

irelandjoe wrote: »

I sent an email to fibrepower@openeir.ie with my Eircode

Got reply within 3 days.

Thanks irelandjoe. email sent.

But in the meantime I stuck my eircode into the eir fibrechecker and it came back as fibre available. I checked with eir sales and they tell me that the I will be able to order broadband from the 19th July so happy days.

The openeir map is still showing as fibre not available but that's just the timelag I reckon. Gives me a chance to think about what package I want - probably the 150mb

vintagevrs · 20-06-2017 12:06PM

Main fibre line is being run this week to our house 6km out of the town. Delighted to see them, about half way there now. Hopefully the splice boxes won't be long after now. Might even buy a games console when this internet thing comes to our house. We have an intermittent adsl line at the minute so the FTTH will allow all the gadgets in the house to work properly.

Darwin · 20-06-2017 02:43PM

I'm supposed to get FTTH in Q1 2018. Our telephone line runs under our driveway to the nearest pole which is about 10 metres from the house. Sorry for the noob question, but will the driveway have to be dug up to lay the fibre or can it somehow be routed through the existing duct?

Gwynston · 20-06-2017 02:56PM

irelandjoe wrote: »

I sent an email to fibrepower@openeir.ie with my Eircode

Got reply within 3 days.

I tried that myself today and got a reply within 2 hours!

I asked if they could tell me what the schedule was in my area of the Claregalway exchange because part of it is already live. But it's a big exchange and there's no indication on the map when the rest will be completed. The map originally said "1st half of 2017" (which is what the eircode lookup still reports) but now just says 470 premises can access FTTH (of the total 1400 planned).

I sent openeir my eircode and they replied "the current forecast date suggests that your area should be connected to the fibre network by the end of September 2017". So not quite the news I was hoping for, but at least may area is still on their radar and they will hopefully get around to finishing the remainder of Claregalway.

So it's possible to get this more granular detail from openeir, but it's not very efficient having to email them rather, than it being in the online checker.

vintagevrs · 20-06-2017 02:59PM

Darwin wrote: »

I'm supposed to get FTTH in Q1 2018. Our telephone line runs under our driveway to the nearest pole which is about 10 metres from the house. Sorry for the noob question, but will the driveway have to be dug up to lay the fibre or can it somehow be routed through the existing duct?

Unfortunately typical underground ducting on residential properties that is used is single cable underground ducting (scud) and is capable of carrying just a single line. In these circumstances it is the property owner, not Eir's responsibility to have ground works completed. This will normal involve a digger and a fibre underground cable installation team (fuc-it) on site to complete and sign off on the works.

I may have made all that up and they can just pull the new fibre cable through your existing ducting hassle free. A good way to check they will be able to do this is check if you pull on the phone line where it comes out of the duct at your property does it move the cable on the pole. Joking aside I had to dig up our garden last year as our duct was damaged and had snagged the phone line.

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