Eir rural FTTH thread

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Tracking thread updated.

garroff

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

Tracking thread updated.

Does live mean connected to customers house or just passing along road?

The Cush

garroff wrote: »

40,000 live........how many blue line houses are connected to fibre and paying for it..

A lot less than that, according to Comreg's latest quarterly report there was a total of 12,076 fibre connections, across all providers, at the end of Q1.

https://www.comreg.ie/publication-download/quarterly-key-data-report-q1-2017

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garroff wrote: »

Does live mean connected to customers house or just passing along road?

Passing.

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The Cush wrote: »

A lot less than that, according to Comreg's latest quarterly report there was a total of 12,076 fibre connections, across all providers, at the end of Q1.

It's worth remembering also that the figure includes urban connections that have been available since 2014.

The Cush

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

It's worth remembering also that the figure includes urban connections that have been available since 2014.

Worse again, just over 12,000 connections in 3 years

Snowy_

Back there from being out a while, went out to have a look at the pole across the road from my place and there's a black box with white markings on it saying CRM-something which I assume is Croom and on the side there's a yellow label with a black serial code and a roll of wire wrapped around it, the cable for connecting I assume (Described it incase I can't post links yet as it's still a new account haha)

http://imgur.com/a/X5SYY


Is that the box the contractors have installed or have I lost my mind? I don't remember ever seeing that up there but keep in mind I never look at those poles anyway so, I hope it is what they installed otherwise I'll look crazy now haha

The Cush

Snowy_ wrote: »

Is that the box the contractors have installed or have I lost my mind? I don't remember ever seeing that up there but keep in mind I never look at those poles anyway so, I hope it is what they installed otherwise I'll look crazy now haha

Its one of these a BPEO Fibre Splice Closure - http://solutions.3m.co.uk/wps/portal/3M/en_GB/structured-cabling/-/products/fibre-cabling/fibre-optic-splice-closures/bpeo-splice-closures/, aka FTTH splice box.

Snowy_

Yeah it looks like it, I hope it is because the contractors for Eir were around a few weeks ago so I'm assuming and hoping that box is it

rob808

Snowy_ wrote: »

Yeah it looks like it, I hope it is because the contractors for Eir were around a few weeks ago so I'm assuming and hoping that box is it

yea that a splice box

damienirel

The Cush wrote: »

Worse again, just over 12,000 connections in 3 years

Yup the figures are pathetic.

long_b

Snowy_ wrote: »

Yeah it looks like it, I hope it is because the contractors for Eir were around a few weeks ago so I'm assuming and hoping that box is it

A beautiful sight

garroff

damienirel wrote: »

Yup the figures are pathetic.

Very few fibre customers connected....... that's what I thought. Looks like blue line work was/is a spoiling exercise. Seems to have worked from what I hear.

Snowy_

So I'm actually on the right track having that there? YES! Atleast it's a good thing thats there, so realistically it shouldn't be far off being done. I'm somewhat relieved at that, that's that sorted then. Now all I've to wait for is Eir to actually acknowledge we're waiting quite a bit for this our road/line can finally be on the fibre line.

The Cush

Snowy_ wrote: »

So I'm actually on the right track having that there? YES! .

Yes.

garroff

Snowy_ wrote: »

So I'm actually on the right track having that there? YES! Atleast it's a good thing thats there, so realistically it shouldn't be far off being done. I'm somewhat relieved at that, that's that sorted then. Now all I've to wait for is Eir to actually acknowledge we're waiting quite a bit for this our road/line can finally be on the fibre line.

By Eirs reconning you're live.....so enjoy you're not connected BB!

Chieftain

Waheyyy have 1000mbs ordered and due to be installed in early July. Took a pretty lengthy online chat to get it ordered. Was offered a good deal at one price, went through all the details and then was told that it was actually 10 dearer per month. Ordered the mobile package and chose one of the phones they said was free, only to be told a while later that the phone was 29. Anyway got it ordered in the end and got a confirmation email.

Should I contact them before the install date to make sure its happening? Seems to be a lot of cases on here of engineers coming out to install phone lines when its supposed to be FTTH

Bored Accountant

garroff wrote: »

By Eirs reconning you're live.....so enjoy you're not connected BB!

No, premises aren't counted as 'Passed' until it is actually possible for the customer to order Fibre.

knipex

garroff wrote: »

By Eirs reconning you're live.....so enjoy you're not connected BB!

Not true

I had a splice box outside my door for 6 weeks before it went live. Only when it went live and I could place an order did the numbers go up..

KOR101

Bored Accountant wrote: »

No, premises aren't counted as 'Passed' until it is actually possible for the customer to order Fibre.

If what you are saying is true, then the takeup rate for the Rural rollout is only 3.49% (1,400/40,114). I would guess it's at least 20%, so the number of premises where an order can actually be placed could be as low as 7,000.


Given this.......

Quarterly updates will be published on the Departments website. The Q1 2017 update will be published shortly and the eir rollout is in line with the Commitment Agreement. I am advised that in the period from 1 January to end March 2017, 30,064 premises have been passed. This brings to 40,114 the total subset of the 300k premises that eir has passed since they commenced work in late 2016. Of those, over 1,400 premises have been connected.

https://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/...nd+plan#g566.r

KOR101

Although I have to say the numbers are so out of whack, I wonder whether there is an error in the Dail reply and it should have said 14,000.

[edit] Although that makes no sense given the Conreg figures.

damienirel

Politicians don't care - more than likely will be another general election between now and eoy 2018. So this is just another PR exercise no different than the last shower of leeches.
Infrastructure as much as they would like you to believe is way down their list of priorities.

knipex

KOR101 wrote: »

If what you are saying is true, then the takeup rate for the Rural rollout is only 3.49% (1,400/40,114). I would guess it's at least 20%, so the number of premises where an order can actually be placed could be as low as 7,000.


Given this.......

Quarterly updates will be published on the Departments website. The Q1 2017 update will be published shortly and the eir rollout is in line with the Commitment Agreement. I am advised that in the period from 1 January to end March 2017, 30,064 premises have been passed. This brings to 40,114 the total subset of the 300k premises that eir has passed since they commenced work in late 2016. Of those, over 1,400 premises have been connected.

https://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/...nd+plan#g566.r

All i can tell you is based on my experience they don't define as passed until the area is live and you can place an order.

I have a very strong suspicion that the take up is over very low. Looking around my own area I would say under 10%.

However many people were tied into contracts as Vodafone and a couple of wireless providers had scoured the area in the last 3 to 4 months tying people into contracts of 18 to 24 months,

Gonzo

FTTH sales will improve. not everyone is jumping at it as soon as it goes live. Only Up till February there was less than 10k rural lines passed? 12k actual connections is not bad for a rollout that's only live 6 months.

I have a feeling most of those 12k are rural too, I can't imagine too many FTTH sales in areas like Sandyford where Virgin has always been available.

What is dissapointing tho is the rollout seems to be slowing down again, they should be passing way more than 12k homes per month at this stage to meet the target of December 2018.

damienirel

Would have to agree with Gonzo, that it's not a lack of potential customers that's the issue here it's how slow the actual rollout is going. People aren't signing up because they can't sign up. 3000 passed in last month - by anybodies measure, that is a brutally low number.

garroff

I agree with Damienirel. Line has been up in my location for months. Nothing happening for months. very frustrating.

Gonzo

My areas was wired Saturday 10th December 2016, some parts earlier than that in November, didn't go live till April 2017. Delighted I have it now but it was a solid 4 month wait before being able to order, if that is going on in most places, many are not gonna be able to order till 2019.

Blogin

Have you seen the "rural exchange timeline" on the new rollout map. Looking at my own area it would seem to be hugely optimistic. Current passed for my area 210, forecasted for end of this month 886.

You would love to think they could do it but I'm seeing nobody on the ground. Seems like total nonsense.

Gonzo

Blogin wrote: »

Have you seen the "rural exchange timeline" on the new rollout map. Looking at my own area it would seem to be hugely optimistic. Current passed for my area 210, forecasted for end of this month 886.

You would love to think they could do it but I'm seeing nobody on the ground. Seems like total nonsense.

just had a look at that now, the numbers are all different to what was originaly planned, there seems to be less than what was suggested back in 2015.

Dunshaughlin is now listed as 554 instead of 570.
Kilbride is listed as 17 instead of 20.

Every exchange seems to have some premises shaved off.

damienirel

It'll definitely have gone into 2019 before it passes my house. Really annoyed with the slow progression of the rollout and the lack of interest from the government. Same old.