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Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

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  • #422
    billybonkers
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    Helena Billions Recipe wrote: »
    Would appear to have reflexes from the matrix, in this newly discovered film.


    This was an exhibition match at a competition Lee was involved in promoting


  • #423
    hbhook
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    Floyd via DQ
    *50-0-0 (27 ko's)


  • #424
    Sam_Doyle
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    I think Mayweather doesn't have any chance against this predator. He is an unbelievable fighter. I'm looking forward to seeing if I'm right.


  • #425
    Joeseph Balls
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    Floyd via DQ
    Sam_Doyle wrote: »
    I think Mayweather doesn't have any chance against this predator. He is an unbelievable fighter. I'm looking forward to seeing if I'm right.

    He is an unbelievable fighter in his own sport, Mayweather has been an unbelievable fighter in his sport for 20+ years, that's the difference in my opinion. Its in Floyd's yard, and he wouldn't take this unless he was confident


  • #426
    buzzinfly83
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    I'd be shocked if Mcgregor lands one clean punch. He will be chasing shadows with Floyd. Many boxers with a lot more skill than Mcgregor have been made to look average against Mayweather.


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  • #427
    Burial.
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    Floyd via DQ
    Floyd Sr. would make sh*t of Conor never mind what Jr. could do. It's sad that it looks like this might actually happen. Shame on both.


  • #428
    StringerBell
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    Floyd via DQ
    Surely whenever it does happen it won't get added to Mayweathers pro record? An exhibition bout sure, one to take him to 50 wins surely not?

    Maybe they would be worried they can't advertise an exhibition fight properly and charge people $100 to watch?

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #429
    walshb
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    Floyd via KO-TKO
    I am still wondering how the authorities are sanctioning this from a health and safety aspect? One man a career veteran pro boxer who is undefeated against a man who has never boxed professionally. Surely some standards should apply here? It's not fooking tiddlywinks we are talking about. It is blows to the head.

    The excuse that Conor is in a combat sport already doesn't cut it. MMA and boxing are different. Boxing is pretty much all about blows to the head, and a lot of the time in a consistent manner. It's more dangerous than MMA in that sense, and here we have a non boxer meeting a career boxer in a boxing match?


  • #430
    Hector Savage
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    Conor via DQ


  • #431
    Red F Warrior
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    Did anyone see Carl Froch saying McGregor would have no chance against Mayweather in a boxing match but if they wanted a fight they would have to do it in a MMA style. I know he is standing up for his sport but he sounds deluded. McGregor would destroy Mayweather if they fought in MMA.


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  • #432
    walshb
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    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Red F Warrior wrote: »
    Did anyone see Carl Froch saying McGregor would have no chance against Mayweather in a boxing match but if they wanted a fight they would have to do it in a MMA style. I know he is standing up for his sport but he sounds deluded. McGregor would destroy Mayweather if they fought in MMA.

    Because boxing is much more specific and defined.

    Mayweather has a better chance in MMA than Conor has in boxing. No delusion there at all.


  • #433
    Ultimate Seduction
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    walshb wrote:
    Mayweather has a better chance in MMA than Conor has in boxing. No delusion there at all.


    That is complete delusion!

    Mayweather gets head kicked unconscious within 10 seconds in MMA

    Itl take Floyd a 12 rounds to get Conor out in boxing. Floyd ain't knocking Conor out.


  • #434
    walshb
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    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    Itl take Floyd a 12 rounds to get Conor out in boxing. Floyd ain't knocking Conor out.

    Yes, it will if the "fight" is staged....


  • #435
    Red F Warrior
    Closed Accounts Posts: 63 ✭✭Red F Warrior


    walshb wrote:
    Mayweather has a better chance in MMA than Conor has in boxing. No delusion there at all.


    Completely disagree. Mayweather will have no idea how to deal with kicks or grappling. As said already, a head kick won't be easy to deal with. McGregor boxes in his sport albeit too a lesser degree. Mayweather will have no idea how to deal with the other aspects of MMA.


  • #436
    Lukker-
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    walshb wrote: »
    Because boxing is much more specific and defined.

    Mayweather has a better chance in MMA than Conor has in boxing. No delusion there at all.

    Pure delusion.

    A boxing match will likely go over at least round. An MMA bout would be over in a minute.


  • #437
    Sweet Science
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    Conor on points
    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    That is complete delusion!

    Mayweather gets head kicked unconscious within 10 seconds in MMA

    Itl take Floyd a 12 rounds to get Conor out in boxing. Floyd ain't knocking Conor out.


    If it goes the full 12 rounds he wouldnt have taken him out it would be a decision .

    Really when you have people who actually think McGregor can hang with Floyd why wouldnt they agree to this farce.

    They know a lot of the public are so gullible they will part with their cash.


  • #438
    Ultimate Seduction
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    Sweet Science wrote:
    Really when you have people who actually think McGregor can hang with Floyd why wouldnt they agree to this farce.


    I can't see Floyd knocking anyone out at this stage of his career never mind McGregor who has an iron beard.

    It'll be a lobside decision for Mayweather with 10 or 11 10-8 rounds

    My heart says Conor by KO round 2..


  • #439
    Sweet Science
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    Conor on points
    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    I can't see Floyd knocking anyone out at this stage of his career never mind McGregor who has an iron beard.

    It'll be a lobside decision for Mayweather with 10 or 11 10-8 rounds

    My heart says Conor by KO round 2..


    I cant get over how brainwashed people are


  • #440
    walshb
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    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    It'll be a lobside decision for Mayweather with 10 or 11 10-8 rounds
    .

    And who would keep sending their man out for that? Would the refereee maybe not stop it?


  • #441
    Mellor
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    Draw
    walshb wrote: »
    Mayweather has a better chance in MMA than Conor has in boxing. No delusion there at all.
    Ah come on. How do you keep switching between reasonable informing posting and delusion such as the above.

    Conor has next to no chance in boxing. Shouldnt even but up for debate. Conor has excellent boxing/striking for MMA - but MMA is not boxing. Most agree.

    But however much Conor is out of his depth in a pro boxing match. Floyd is moreso out of his depth in MMA by a degrees of magnitude. AINEC
    Conor has done striking experience and familiarity. Floyd has no grappling. None. He's less than a white belt. He'd get absolutely strangled.

    If we were to fight under MMA rules on Saturday. I fancy my chances against Floyd, never mind Conor.


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  • #442
    Lukker-
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    Mellor wrote: »
    Ah come on. How do you keep switching between reasonable informing posting and delusion such as the above.

    Conor has next to no chance in boxing. Shouldnt even but up for debate. Conor has excellent boxing/striking for MMA - but MMA is not boxing. Most agree.

    But however much Conor is out of his depth in a pro boxing match. Floyd is moreso out of his depth in MMA by a degrees of magnitude. AINEC
    Conor has done striking experience and familiarity. Floyd has no grappling. None. He's less than a white belt. He'd get absolutely strangled.

    If we were to fight under MMA rules on Saturday. I fancy my chances against Floyd, never mind Conor.

    I agree with your post bar this. Floyd's the P4P best grappler in boxing


  • #443
    walshb
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    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Mellor wrote: »
    Ah come on. How do you keep switching between reasonable informing posting and delusion such as the above.

    Conor has next to no chance in boxing. Shouldnt even but up for debate. Conor has excellent boxing/striking for MMA - but MMA is not boxing. Most agree.

    But however much Conor is out of his depth in a pro boxing match. Floyd is moreso out of his depth in MMA by a degrees of magnitude. AINEC
    Conor has done striking experience and familiarity. Floyd has no grappling. None. He's less than a white belt. He'd get absolutely strangled.

    If we were to fight under MMA rules on Saturday. I fancy my chances against Floyd, never mind Conor.


    Boxing is more defined/specialist and specific.

    MMA is a mix of a lot of things, hence more chance Floyd could win. Very little if you ask me, but I would (if I had to) bet on Floyd beating Conor (lucky punch) in MMA compared to Conor beating Floyd (lucky punch) in boxing. He only has a punchers chance really, but being a boxer that's a possibility if he connects. I doubt he would be near committed enough and would end up getting taken down and mauled.

    It is not at all delusional. It's statistics, plain and simple.

    BTW, percent wise I would say Floyd would have a 1/100 chance and Conor a 1/200 chance.

    Just to add I would bet more confidently on many other boxers having a chance vs. Conor in MMA than Floyd

    Floyd is far too much a defender/cautious type boxer to have a good chance to land that lucky KO.

    Plenty other boxers far more aggressive and committed could get the KO shot.


  • #444
    walshb
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    Floyd via KO-TKO
    In a nutshell both really only have a punchers chance (hand striking) to defeat each other in their opposing disciplines.

    Are people saying it's delusional to think that Floyd has a better chance to get the punch in (in MMA) and win compared to Conor getting it in (in boxing)?


  • #445
    Lukker-
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    walshb wrote: »
    Boxing is more defined/specialist and specific.

    MMA is a mix of a lot of things, hence more chance Floyd could win. Very little if you ask me, but I would (if I had to) bet on Floyd beating Conor (lucky punch) in MMA compared to Conor beating Floyd (lucky punch) in boxing

    It is not at all delusional. It's statistics, plain and simple.

    BTW, percent wise I would say Floyd would have a 1/100 chance and Conor a 1/200 chance.

    Just to add I would bet more confidently on many other boxers having a chance vs. Conor in MMA than Floyd

    Floyd is far too much a defender/cautious type boxer to have a good chance to land that lucky KO.

    Plenty other boxers far more aggressive and committed could get the KO shot.

    Your logic is flawed though. Being a good boxer doesn't mean you will be a good MMA boxer, they are two very different beasts.

    Floyd's whole defence would be rendered useless in MMA, doing a shoulder roll won't work in MMA because your legs are left wide open and too close to your opponent.

    In MMA Floyd wouldn't last more than a minute, simple as. Most people would agree that Conor will probably last a few rounds at least.


  • #446
    walshb
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    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Lukker- wrote: »
    Your logic is flawed though. Being a good boxer doesn't mean you will be a good MMA boxer, they are two very different beasts.

    Floyd's whole defence would be rendered useless in MMA, doing a shoulder roll won't work in MMA because your legs are left wide open and too close to your opponent.

    In MMA Floyd wouldn't last more than a minute, simple as. Most people would agree that Conor will probably last a few rounds at least.

    The distance they last is not being debated. It's the chances of victory.

    Both really only have a lucky punch chance. I think it's more than reasonable to suggest that a boxer has a better chance to get it in the opposing sport.


  • #447
    Mellor
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    Draw
    walshb wrote: »
    MMA is a mix of a lot of things, hence more chance Floyd could win.
    Or in reality, it means more ways he can lose. It's like backing a Usain bolt in the backstroke because he's "fast".
    It is not at all delusional. It's statistics, plain and simple.
    What statistics?

    Statistically, Conor's punching ability is miles better than Floyds grappling ability.
    walshb wrote: »
    In a nutshell both really only have a punchers chance (hand striking) to defeat each other in their opposing disciplines.

    Are people saying it's delusional to think that Floyd has a better chance to get the punch in (in MMA) and win compared to Conor getting it in (in boxing)?
    Yes. That's exactly what I saying. I'd only expect it from somebody who never seen grappling in MMA tbh.

    It only makes sense if the MMA fighter had no idea who Floyd was and stood there trading punches with him. But obviously, no fighter would. They'd take him down and put him a spot where he can't punch.


  • #448
    Sweet Science
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    Conor on points
    walshb wrote: »
    The distance they last is not being debated. It's the chances of victory.

    Both really only have a lucky punch chance. I think it's more than reasonable to suggest that a boxer has a better chance to get it in the opposing sport.


    I know where you are coming from . Once a boxer connects flush with a 4oz glove the fight is over.

    A MMA fighter wouldnt have once punch KO power with boxing gloves on .


  • #449
    walshb
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    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Sweet Science wrote: »
    I know where you are coming from . Once a boxer connects flush with a 4oz glove the fight is over.

    A MMA fighter wouldnt have once punch KO power with boxing gloves on .

    Not even the force of the shot, but the chances of scoring it effectively to get the KO. Boxers specialize in punching/hand striking. Yes, MMA offers differences in how that is implemented, but I still feel that a trained boxer has the better chance to score it in the octagon than the MMA fighter has to score it in the ring...


  • #450
    Mellor
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    Draw
    Guys, you know takedowns exist right?


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  • #451
    walshb
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    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Mellor wrote: »
    Yes. That's exactly what I saying. I'd only expect it from somebody who never seen grappling in MMA tbh.

    It only makes sense if the MMA fighter had no idea who Floyd was and stood there trading punches with him. But obviously, no fighter would. They'd take him down and put him a spot where he can't punch.

    Yes, but the MMA fighter still has to get close to do this, and this is where a trained boxer has the chance to land the KO shot. That chance for me is better than the reverse, ie Conor scoring a KO on Floyd....

    No issue with the opposing view here, but IMO Carl Froch is not delusional with his take on it.


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