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  • #6092
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 55,090 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Neil3030 wrote: »
    So it's purely a market forces thing?

    A lack of alternatives, apathy from the moderate middle and an increasingly polar society has seen the DUP and SF make large gains.

    They play off each other. If SF increase their vote the DUP will increase their vote. If the DUP increase their vote SF will increase their vote.


  • #6093
    dregin
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 6,525 Mod ✭✭✭✭dregin


    Beside Arlene Foster, May looks more left-wing than Corbyn.


  • #6094
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    dregin wrote: »
    Beside Arlene Foster, May looks more left-wing than Corbyn.

    Theresa is having the same crisis of consciousness as Darth Vader at the end of Return of the Jedi


  • #6095
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Neil3030 wrote: »
    Like... where it doesn't rain?

    No booze


  • #6096
    Madeleine Fit Martian
    Posts: 0 ✭ Madeleine Fit Martian


    I've spent a good bit of time in NI working so got to know a lot of locals on all sides of the spectrum, from what I saw the entrenchment up there really is something else. The spite you see over the most petty things is incredible, from everyone. I know we've a lot of Ulster posters who'd know much better than me but that was my experience.


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  • #6097
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 55,090 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Emilee Bitter Ginseng wrote: »
    I've spent a good bit of time in NI working so got to know a lot of locals on all sides of the spectrum, from what I saw the entrenchment up there really is something else. The spite you see over the most petty things is incredible, from everyone. I know we've a lot of Ulster posters who'd know much better than me but that was my experience.

    You are not wrong.


  • #6098
    Neil3030
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Could I probe you for an anecdote from both sides, just to get a feel for what it's really like?


  • #6099
    Buer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Neil3030 wrote: »
    Could I probe you for an anecdote from both sides, just to get a feel for what it's really like?

    Have you ever seen awec talk about the IRFU?


  • #6100
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 55,090 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Buer wrote: »
    Have you ever seen awec talk about the IRFU?

    That issue isn't petty. :cool:


  • #6101
    Rigor Mortis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭Rigor Mortis


    Nucifora - 800+ days of oppression

    Our revenge will be the laughter of Jacob Stockdale


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  • #6102
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,697 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    “While we will focus on the special circumstances, geography and certain industries of Northern Ireland we will be pressing that home very strongly. Special status, however, within the European Union is a nonsense. Dublin doesn’t support it. Brussels doesn’t support it. The member states of the EU would never dream of it because it would open the door to a Pandora’s box of independence movements of all sorts. The only people who mentioned this are Sinn F?in.”

    This is actually a good example.

    DUP using political capital to make a red line over ensuring something that was never going to happen doesn't happen just because SF mentioned it. He's even explained how stupid demanding it is by saying no one wants it anyway!


  • #6103
    mfceiling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,002 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Neil3030 wrote: »
    Could I probe you for an anecdote from both sides, just to get a feel for what it's really like?

    I'm from a "mildly unionist" country area. Most would be farming, Sunday church goers. The local shop owner decided to sell up years ago. I remember asking him had he any interested parties looking to buy. "X" (local Catholic shop owner) has put in a bid for the asking. "Sure you must be happy out"...he stared at me and replied "it'll be a cold day in hell if I sell it to the other side".

    His father refused to sell or rent farmland to catholics. This is a common occurrence in what is a mild unionist/protestant area.


  • #6104
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,697 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    mfceiling wrote: »
    I'm from a "mildly unionist" country area. Most would be farming, Sunday church goers. The local shop owner decided to sell up years ago. I remember asking him had he any interested parties looking to buy. "X" (local Catholic shop owner) has put in a bid for the asking. "Sure you must be happy out"...he stared at me and replied "it'll be a cold day in hell if I sell it to the other side".

    His father refused to sell or rent farmland to catholics. This is a common occurrence in what is a mild unionist/protestant area.

    How many years ago?

    I find it so difficult that fathom that kind of thinking.


  • #6105
    mfceiling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,002 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    How many years ago?

    I find it so difficult that fathom that kind of thinking.

    Around 97 - 98. Still to this day it is a thing to make sure no land goes to "the other side". That is on both sides of the religious divide.


  • #6106
    molloyjh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    mfceiling wrote: »
    Podge_irl wrote: »
    How many years ago?

    I find it so difficult that fathom that kind of thinking.

    Around 97 - 98. Still to this day it is a thing to make sure no land goes to "the other side". That is on both sides of the religious divide.

    Jaysus, that's almost the Irish holy trinity right there. Land, religion and politics.


  • #6107
    Kailani Dirty Teenager
    Posts: 0 ✭ Kailani Dirty Teenager


    mfceiling wrote: »
    Around 97 - 98. Still to this day it is a thing to make sure no land goes to "the other side". That is on both sides of the religious divide.

    at all age levels?


  • #6108
    mfceiling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,002 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Kailani Dirty Teenager wrote: »
    at all age levels?

    Oh yeah. Lads I would have grown up with would have deep mistrust of their Catholic neighbours. They never would socialise together and still would hold suspicion of their beliefs.

    I was lucky that my mum is Catholic and father is protestant. Neither had any interest in religion or churchs/chapels. I had friends on both sides growing up and I socialised wherever I felt like. Some of my best friends from home would still be on the "harder" sides of their respective beliefs. I don't really believe there is any candidate at home that I could vote for as they are still too rooted in unionism/republicanism.


  • #6109
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 55,090 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    I remember when a catholic girl joined our school once. It was a noteworthy event. And this was when I was like 16.

    Tis no wonder people struggle to mix when they are educated seperately.


  • #6110
    Zzippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    No way, josè. He's in mate.

    You have money on him, don't you... did the Nigel Carolan debacle teach you nothing? :p


  • #6111
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    awec wrote: »
    I remember when a catholic girl joined our school once. It was a noteworthy event. And this was when I was like 16.

    Tis no wonder people struggle to mix when they are educated seperately.

    There are Catholics in Craig Avon? :eek:

    On a more serious note I think the millennial generation in NI are less tribal


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  • #6112
    Dave_The_Sheep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,493 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    Stheno wrote: »
    On a more serious note I think the millennial generation in NI are less tribal

    I really, really hope so.


  • #6113
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    In Disneyland for the weekend for my son's birthday. It's an absolute nightmare of a place. Question upon queues on queues and the rides are ****e.

    Never ever go to Disneyland.


  • #6114
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    pickarooney wrote: »
    In Disneyland for the weekend for my son's birthday. It's an absolute nightmare of a place. Question upon queues on queues and the rides are ****e.

    Never ever go to Disneyland.

    Bring crutches next time and go off season.


  • #6115
    mfceiling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,002 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    As a rule I don't queue for anything. Went in to the petrol station at 7 this morning and there were 4 people waiting for the coffee machine. Turned on my heel with a quick "for fcuk sake" and out the door. Wife goes mad at me with my no queueing attitude. She'll eventually realise that my time is too precious to spend stuck behind people.


  • #6116
    Erik Shin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭Erik Shin


    Batman has died :(


  • #6117
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Erik Shin wrote: »
    Batman has died :(

    :(

    The most self-aware man in history


  • #6118
    errlloyd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,633 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    Anyone (maybe Swiwi) watching the Americas Cup? Sweden 2-2 with New Zealand in the challenger final. Super exciting, bt have sent their best rugby commentator (whos name I've forgotten).

    Very exiting format for racing!


  • #6119
    Synode
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭Synode


    Thought Ireland were robbed in the football there. Not sure why that goal was disallowed


  • #6120
    Erik Shin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭Erik Shin


    Synode wrote: »
    Thought Ireland were robbed in the football there. Not sure why that goal was disallowed

    Impeded a player?
    But there was a fairly nailed on pen for Walters a minute after that which was just as bad


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  • #6121
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    errlloyd wrote: »
    Anyone (maybe Swiwi) watching the Americas Cup? Sweden 2-2 with New Zealand in the challenger final. Super exciting, bt have sent their best rugby commentator (whos name I've forgotten).

    Very exiting format for racing!

    It is but it's dangerous, I'd love NZ to win after the last time :)


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