Off Topic Thread 3.0

Neil3030 wrote: »

So it's purely a market forces thing?

A lack of alternatives, apathy from the moderate middle and an increasingly polar society has seen the DUP and SF make large gains.

They play off each other. If SF increase their vote the DUP will increase their vote. If the DUP increase their vote SF will increase their vote.

dregin

Beside Arlene Foster, May looks more left-wing than Corbyn.

irishbucsfan

dregin wrote: »

Beside Arlene Foster, May looks more left-wing than Corbyn.

Theresa is having the same crisis of consciousness as Darth Vader at the end of Return of the Jedi

Stheno

Neil3030 wrote: »

Like... where it doesn't rain?

No booze

I've spent a good bit of time in NI working so got to know a lot of locals on all sides of the spectrum, from what I saw the entrenchment up there really is something else. The spite you see over the most petty things is incredible, from everyone. I know we've a lot of Ulster posters who'd know much better than me but that was my experience.

Interested Observer wrote: »

I've spent a good bit of time in NI working so got to know a lot of locals on all sides of the spectrum, from what I saw the entrenchment up there really is something else. The spite you see over the most petty things is incredible, from everyone. I know we've a lot of Ulster posters who'd know much better than me but that was my experience.

You are not wrong.

Neil3030

Could I probe you for an anecdote from both sides, just to get a feel for what it's really like?

Buer

Neil3030 wrote: »

Could I probe you for an anecdote from both sides, just to get a feel for what it's really like?

Have you ever seen awec talk about the IRFU?

Buer wrote: »

Have you ever seen awec talk about the IRFU?

That issue isn't petty. :cool:

Rigor Mortis

Nucifora - 800+ days of oppression

Our revenge will be the laughter of Jacob Stockdale

Podge_irl

“While we will focus on the special circumstances, geography and certain industries of Northern Ireland we will be pressing that home very strongly. Special status, however, within the European Union is a nonsense. Dublin doesn’t support it. Brussels doesn’t support it. The member states of the EU would never dream of it because it would open the door to a Pandora’s box of independence movements of all sorts. The only people who mentioned this are Sinn F?in.”

This is actually a good example.

DUP using political capital to make a red line over ensuring something that was never going to happen doesn't happen just because SF mentioned it. He's even explained how stupid demanding it is by saying no one wants it anyway!

Neil3030 wrote: »

Could I probe you for an anecdote from both sides, just to get a feel for what it's really like?

I'm from a "mildly unionist" country area. Most would be farming, Sunday church goers. The local shop owner decided to sell up years ago. I remember asking him had he any interested parties looking to buy. "X" (local Catholic shop owner) has put in a bid for the asking. "Sure you must be happy out"...he stared at me and replied "it'll be a cold day in hell if I sell it to the other side".

His father refused to sell or rent farmland to catholics. This is a common occurrence in what is a mild unionist/protestant area.

Podge_irl

mfceiling wrote: »

I'm from a "mildly unionist" country area. Most would be farming, Sunday church goers. The local shop owner decided to sell up years ago. I remember asking him had he any interested parties looking to buy. "X" (local Catholic shop owner) has put in a bid for the asking. "Sure you must be happy out"...he stared at me and replied "it'll be a cold day in hell if I sell it to the other side".

His father refused to sell or rent farmland to catholics. This is a common occurrence in what is a mild unionist/protestant area.

How many years ago?

I find it so difficult that fathom that kind of thinking.

Podge_irl wrote: »

How many years ago?

I find it so difficult that fathom that kind of thinking.

Around 97 - 98. Still to this day it is a thing to make sure no land goes to "the other side". That is on both sides of the religious divide.

molloyjh

mfceiling wrote: »

Podge_irl wrote: »

How many years ago?

I find it so difficult that fathom that kind of thinking.

Around 97 - 98. Still to this day it is a thing to make sure no land goes to "the other side". That is on both sides of the religious divide.

Jaysus, that's almost the Irish holy trinity right there. Land, religion and politics.

mfceiling wrote: »

Around 97 - 98. Still to this day it is a thing to make sure no land goes to "the other side". That is on both sides of the religious divide.

at all age levels?

MaybeMaybe wrote: »

at all age levels?

Oh yeah. Lads I would have grown up with would have deep mistrust of their Catholic neighbours. They never would socialise together and still would hold suspicion of their beliefs.

I was lucky that my mum is Catholic and father is protestant. Neither had any interest in religion or churchs/chapels. I had friends on both sides growing up and I socialised wherever I felt like. Some of my best friends from home would still be on the "harder" sides of their respective beliefs. I don't really believe there is any candidate at home that I could vote for as they are still too rooted in unionism/republicanism.

I remember when a catholic girl joined our school once. It was a noteworthy event. And this was when I was like 16.

Tis no wonder people struggle to mix when they are educated seperately.

Zzippy

irishbucsfan wrote: »

No way, josè. He's in mate.

You have money on him, don't you... did the Nigel Carolan debacle teach you nothing?

Stheno

awec wrote: »

I remember when a catholic girl joined our school once. It was a noteworthy event. And this was when I was like 16.

Tis no wonder people struggle to mix when they are educated seperately.

There are Catholics in Craig Avon? :eek:

On a more serious note I think the millennial generation in NI are less tribal

Dave_The_Sheep

Stheno wrote: »

On a more serious note I think the millennial generation in NI are less tribal

I really, really hope so.

pickarooney

In Disneyland for the weekend for my son's birthday. It's an absolute nightmare of a place. Question upon queues on queues and the rides are ****e.

Never ever go to Disneyland.

pickarooney wrote: »

In Disneyland for the weekend for my son's birthday. It's an absolute nightmare of a place. Question upon queues on queues and the rides are ****e.

Never ever go to Disneyland.

Bring crutches next time and go off season.

As a rule I don't queue for anything. Went in to the petrol station at 7 this morning and there were 4 people waiting for the coffee machine. Turned on my heel with a quick "for fcuk sake" and out the door. Wife goes mad at me with my no queueing attitude. She'll eventually realise that my time is too precious to spend stuck behind people.

Erik Shin

Batman has died