Off Topic Thread 3.0

Stheno

Jeepers looks like May is going to be scuppered.

Neil3030

Labour not doing as well in Sunderland and Newcastle as the exit poll suggested.

Despite the unrepentant right wing media attack machine against Labour (14 page attack ads in today's Dailymail) and the party being a shambles they've had a good election. I'd say this was as much a voice against Brexit as anything.

awec

Deleted User wrote: »

Despite the unrepentant right wing media attack machine against Labour (14 page attack ads in today's Dailymail) and the party being a shambles they've had a good election. I'd say this was as much a voice against Brexit as anything.

Don't think the exit poll is accurate.

A good result for Labour none the less, but I reckon the torys will get more seats than they currently have despite what the poll says and Labour won't do as well as it suggests.

irishbucsfan

awec wrote: »

Don't think the exit poll is accurate.

A good result for Labour none the less, but I reckon the torys will get more seats than they currently have despite what the poll says and Labour won't do as well as it suggests.

Based on what?

awec

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Based on what?

Hunch.

Though according to BBC both Labour and Conservatives are not convinced by the exit poll numbers.

Neil3030

It seems to be six of one half a dozen of the other - Labour outperforming the Exit Poll in Sunderland South Central and Swindon, Conservatives outperforming the Poll in Sunderland South and Newcastle.

Neil3030

This is mental, Corbyn is now favourite on Betfair to be the next PM :eek:

irishbucsfan

Neil3030 wrote: »

This is mental, Corbyn is now favourite on Betfair to be the next PM :eek:

Favourite with PP as well

wp_rathead

I was only messing about the Sinn Fein taking their seats in Westminster, I know would never happen, but just be hilarious - following the crap Corbyn had to deal with surrounding the IRA accusations

Neil3030 wrote: »

This is mental, Corbyn is now favourite on Betfair to be the next PM :eek:

On Paddy Powers Corbyn is at 10/11 while May is Evens
Even if Conservatives manage to form a coalition, can't see how May can stay on in charge

Neil3030

Corbyn has steadily drifted out to 8/1 over the past hour.

Looks like the Scots will inflict a Tory government on the English.

awec

awec wrote: »

Hunch.

Though according to BBC both Labour and Conservatives are not convinced by the exit poll numbers.

So much for the hunch!

I'd imagine any coalition for the Tories will come with the price tag of a ratification referendum on a Brexit deal which hands negotiations to Brussels and kills the chances of it ever happening.

May not stepping down... we shall see.

awec

Thankfully I am not a politician

irishbucsfan

Deleted User wrote: »

I'd imagine any coalition for the Tories will come with the price tag of a ratification referendum on a Brexit deal which hands negotiations to Brussels and kills the chances of it ever happening.

Not with the DUP.

May stepping down isn't an option for the Tories really at the moment.

Bazzo

[Deleted User] wrote: »

So much for the hunch!

I'd imagine any coalition for the Tories will come with the price tag of a ratification referendum on a Brexit deal which hands negotiations to Brussels and kills the chances of it ever happening.

May not stepping down... we shall see.

She wants to form a coalition with the DUP. Weren't they pro Brexit in the first place?

Bazzo

Bazzo wrote: »

She wants to form a coalition with the DUP. Weren't they pro Brexit in the first place?

Arlene Foster certainly was anyway.


Betting markets still seem fairly certain the Tories will stay in power, May heavy favourite to be PM after the election.

Buer

May will have to step down whether it's this week or the coming months. Her own party will slit her throat on this. They had a majority government, called a snap election and, largely contributed to by her incompetent campaigning, lost that position. She will have absolutely no confidence in her from her own benches.

irishbucsfan

Buer wrote: »

May will have to step down whether it's this week or the coming months. Her own party will slit her throat on this. They had a majority government, called a snap election and, largely contributed to by her incompetent campaigning, lost that position. She will have absolutely no confidence in her from her own benches.

She's ruined her career, but it'll be absolute chaos if they try to form a government with anyone else as PM. They'll come back into power and she'll announce she is stepping down I reckon.

The dream of Boris and Trump in power at the same time is back on.

Buer

Bazzo wrote: »

She wants to form a coalition with the DUP. Weren't they pro Brexit in the first place?

Correct. However, they are also very much in favour of a soft Brexit and an open border with the RoI.

In a strange twist, the DUP getting into a coalition with the Tories (doubtful given the impact it would have on the NI Assembly) or supporting a minority government could be a very good thing for Irish interests south of the border. Jeffrey Donaldson is already on the record as saying that a soft Brexit will be an integral issue for them in any discussion with the Conservative party.

Bazzo

Bazzo wrote: »

She wants to form a coalition with the DUP. Weren't they pro Brexit in the first place?

They were but it seemed to hurt them in the election a few months back along with the ash scandal.

Arlene Foster could be in for a promotion after all!

DGRulz

Out of interest, can Foster be NI First Minister and Deputy PM at the same time?

Buer

irishbucsfan wrote: »

The dream of Boris and Trump in power at the same time is back on.

Johnson won't run for leader. All mouth and no trousers. The Tories will look to someone more polished and moderate, I would imagine.

Which is basically anyone.

DGRulz

DGRulz wrote: »

Out of interest, can Foster be NI First Minister and Deputy PM at the same time?

I don't know about legally but politically defo not.

irishbucsfan

Buer wrote: »

Johnson won't run for leader. All mouth and no trousers. The Tories will look to someone more polished and moderate, I would imagine.

Which is basically anyone.

No way. Boris is a shoe-in. The dream is alive.

Podge_irl

DGRulz wrote: »

Out of interest, can Foster be NI First Minister and Deputy PM at the same time?

She's not an MP. Same as Nicola Sturgeon - head of her party but only sits in the devolved government.

Buer

DGRulz wrote: »

Out of interest, can Foster be NI First Minister and Deputy PM at the same time?

No, she's part of the NI Assembly not Westminster. She didn't run in this election.

If they're going to go into government then it will see guys like Jeffrey Donaldson get a cabinet post. He's an MP in Westminster.

Podge_irl

dregin wrote: »

Popped the question last weekend and the planning is now in full swing. We're swinging in the direction of Connacht, as the better half's family are from Mayo.

Two possible locations so far are The Lodge at Ashford Castle and Markree Castle in Sligo. Does anyone have any experience/opinions on either of these?

We're also looking for suggestions of "alternative" venues in the area. We like the idea of vintage buildings like old barns renovated to house the reception.

Any help appreciated massively. Thanks!

I'm going to a wedding in Markree in September actually. Not that that is much use to you now!

Podge_irl

Buer wrote: »

Johnson won't run for leader. All mouth and no trousers. The Tories will look to someone more polished and moderate, I would imagine.

Which is basically anyone.

Considering the shambles that was his attempt to run at the open goal of leadership last time round I can't see how anyone could have high expectations of him getting it this time. I don't know why he is put forward as such a likely candidate constantly.

irishbucsfan

Podge_irl wrote: »

Considering the shambles that was his attempt to run at the open goal of leadership last time round I can't see how anyone could have high expectations of him getting it this time. I don't know why he is put forward as such a likely candidate constantly.

No way, josè. He's in mate.

swiwi_

Buer wrote: »

May will have to step down whether it's this week or the coming months. Her own party will slit her throat on this. They had a majority government, called a snap election and, largely contributed to by her incompetent campaigning, lost that position. She will have absolutely no confidence in her from her own benches.

The worse thing she did IMO was obsequiously running off to lick Trump's boots the minute he was into the halls of power.

It's a torrid time to be British at the moment. I could actually see Britain remin in the EU, and I don't think the EU would mind a volte-face at all.