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Eir rural FTTH thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭MajesticDonkey


    Do KN do anything other than fibre? Saw a KN van not too far from my house last Friday, and a guy up a pole beside it, but where he was isn't on the yellow lines, and my area isn't down to be live until Winter 2018.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,081 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Do KN do anything other than fibre? Saw a KN van not too far from my house last Friday, and a guy up a pole beside it, but where he was isn't on the yellow lines, and my area isn't down to be live until Winter 2018.

    They also do PSTN line faults and installation if what I was told is accurate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭MajesticDonkey


    They also do PSTN line faults and installation if what I was told is accurate.

    I are disappoint.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭damienirel


    I are disappoint.

    We should start our own thread to lament the fact we were left till the end!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    They also do PSTN line faults and installation if what I was told is accurate.

    KNN/KNIS do:
    All NGA installs (FTTC, FTTH)
    Most/All NLPs (New copper lines)
    All faults with said within first 28 days
    Some general faults in certain work areas, all faults in others where the OpenEir staffing has been stripped away


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭plodder


    Does anyone know what the letter "L" painted in blue, on a pole outside my house and on the road beside a duct cover, signifies?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    plodder wrote: »
    Does anyone know what the letter "L" painted in blue, on a pole outside my house and on the road beside a duct cover, signifies?

    Its been detailed before in thread, if you read back far enough you'll find it. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭plodder


    ED E wrote: »
    Its been detailed before in thread, if you read back far enough you'll find it. :pac:
    I've seen the question asked, but no answer. How far back to I have to go ?

    G'wan, giz a clue... :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Month or so. I remember another poster corrected my guess but not when.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Here: (Google search is far better than boards')
    ED E wrote: »
    RIB 05 would be RIB exchange Cab 5 by normal convention, but theres no RIB exchange that I know of.

    Are you on the R180 in Monaghan? Then it would be R180, Main Cable 5, Drop L.
    RIB 05 stands for ribbon 05. A ribbon is the area which is being served from an exchange for fibre, so this is the fifth area to be served for fibre from this particular exchange. A ribbon is also called a supercell.

    Kopite didnt specify the pole marking but AFAIK they're DP enumeration.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭Pangea


    Well to those who have read my posts about my failed fibre installation two weeks ago and the subsequent survey the technician done.
    I was told by Eir that they would send someone out to fix the underground duct problems by 6th of June. I rang up today asking about it since nobody showed. After being yo-yoed from eir online chat to open eir then on to Eir customer care I was told the bad news that it wont be looked at until September. After lengthy conversation about it she said if I want to find out more to ring Open Eir and ask for Wholesale customer service which I did. The woman told me that September is the latest date, that it could be done within one to three months and that the reason for the delay is permission and they have to wait for a license.
    Dont understand why they need a license to make the duct bigger??? Another wait, no fibre this summer for me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    Pangea wrote: »
    Well to those who have read my posts about my failed fibre installation two weeks ago and the subsequent survey the technician done.
    I was told by Eir that they would send someone out to fix the underground duct problems by 6th of June. I rang up today asking about it since nobody showed. After being yo-yoed from eir online chat to open eir then on to Eir customer care I was told the bad news that it wont be looked at until September. After lengthy conversation about it she said if I want to find out more to ring Open Eir and ask for Wholesale customer service which I did. The woman told me that September is the latest date, that it could be done within one to three months and that the reason for the delay is permission and they have to wait for a license.
    Dont understand why they need a license to make the duct bigger??? Another wait, no fibre this summer for me.

    Road opening license most likely. You have to get permission and pay the local authority if you want to dig up the road or even the verge at the roadside.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭Pangea


    Road opening license most likely. You have to get permission and pay the local authority if you want to dig up the road or even the verge at the roadside.

    Thanks, the duct in question is at the side of the road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    A man attached to open Eir came to seek permission to cut some limbs off on my side of the road that are covering the telephone multicore copper cable. I own and occupy land along the road as I am a farmer. Permission gladly granted. They intend cutting in the next few days in preparation of the erection of Fibre cables over the weekend or by the early days of next week. My local exchange is Inch St Lawernce Limerick which serves the villages of Caherconlish and Ballyneety. There are already lines up on two roads coming out of Caherconlish village in the last 2 weeks. I don't know when the new lines come live yet until we get an update on the Open Eir's rollout.ie map. The exchange is presently down for Summer/Autumn 17.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 492 ✭✭guideanna


    Peppa Cig wrote: »
    Btw my experience was KN install guys top class

    Eir top disaster

    Absolutely CORRECT!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭plodder


    Jpmarn wrote: »
    A man attached to open Eir came to seek permission to cut some limbs off on my side of the road
    Steady on now. I know some people are saying they'd give their right arm for fibre, but ..:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    I meant they are to cut some branches off trees that are covering up poles and cables. They had done up my road towards the exchange building.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,391 ✭✭✭KeRbDoG


    Rural R125 Swords RIB05 update: Ground works completed. Seems they had to dig up certain parts of the existing underground duct work (maybe some was damaged/collapsed). Road and footpaths all now correctly reinstated instead of temp coverings. Now the wait begins to see what the next step will be.
    Saw a KN Group van with a mounted cherrypicker type setup driving slowly up the local roads looking at poles and overhead lines. Fingers crossed there be more movement soon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭spix


    Another installer who would not install it through attic and max of 3 metres from the wall


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    I think fibre lines are being laid on roads coming out of Ballyneety Co. Limerick, part of my local exchange of Inch St. Lawernce. They are suppose to work down in my direction in the next few days. No sign of any bush cutters or tree surgeons turning up ahead of the lines men.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭Pangea


    spix wrote: »
    Another installer who would not install it through attic and max of 3 metres from the wall

    Did u get it installed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭bfa1509


    For anyone who is seeing work going on around them but have been left in limbo-land not knowing what it going on, here are some observations I have made in my area (this may not be the same for everyone so don't read too much into it):

    -They tend to replace the older/rotten poles. This is likely due to the fact that the fibre cables appear to be under higher tension therefore some poles need replacing to resist the bending (unfortunately in my area, some of the poles that should have been replaced weren't and seem to already struggling from the tension of the line :D)
    -It seems that if you are getting fibre to the home (ftth) you need to be near a splice box, which are small black boxes (~400x250mm). These are mounted to the telephone poles.
    -I noticed that all the poles that have a splice box on them in my area have the letter 'L' sprayed in white on the bottom (the letter likely varies depending on area, as neighbouring villages appear to have a 'J'. The last pole that they attach a splice box to on the line is marked with 'END' or 'E'. (I noticed this as I was unfortunate enough to be 200m downwind of one of these poles :(
    -Luckily for me though, I am on a yellow line on the Open Eir rollout map, and in the last few days, 'L's have appeared on every 3rd or 4th pole down my road. So the splice boxes should arrive soon (I hope!)

    Some other observations:

    -It seems people who live close to the cabinets don't have splice boxes installed (or are low priority). I can only assume they are not getting FTTH as they live so close to the cabinet anyway, so FTTH probably wouldn't make much of a difference
    -From what I can see (and this is just observation with a little speculation) Eir seem to have influence on where Open Eir/ KN install the splice boxes. The splice boxes tend to be prioritised in places where there are not a lot of Eir customers (although the Eir sales will tell you that they are prioritising areas that have no/very poor internet connections (I call BS on this).

    These are only observations for people who don't know what is going on, so correct/supplement if you have a different experience...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭spix


    Pangea wrote: »
    Did u get it installed?

    Nope


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭Pangea


    spix wrote: »
    Nope

    What happened exactly? Did you refuse to get it in because they wouldn't go through the attic? By the way you're talking it's happened more than once?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    bfa1509 wrote: »
    For anyone who is seeing work going on around them but have been left in limbo-land not knowing what it going on, here are some observations I have made in my area (this may not be the same for everyone so don't read too much into it):

    -They tend to replace the older/rotten poles. This is likely due to the fact that the fibre cables appear to be under higher tension therefore some poles need replacing to resist the bending (unfortunately in my area, some of the poles that should have been replaced weren't and seem to already struggling from the tension of the line :D)
    -It seems that if you are getting fibre to the home (ftth) you need to be near a splice box, which are small black boxes (~400x250mm). These are mounted to the telephone poles.
    -I noticed that all the poles that have a splice box on them in my area have the letter 'L' sprayed in white on the bottom (the letter likely varies depending on area, as neighbouring villages appear to have a 'J'. The last pole that they attach a splice box to on the line is marked with 'END' or 'E'. (I noticed this as I was unfortunate enough to be 200m downwind of one of these poles :(
    -Luckily for me though, I am on a yellow line on the Open Eir rollout map, and in the last few days, 'L's have appeared on every 3rd or 4th pole down my road. So the splice boxes should arrive soon (I hope!)

    Some other observations:

    -It seems people who live close to the cabinets don't have splice boxes installed (or are low priority). I can only assume they are not getting FTTH as they live so close to the cabinet anyway, so FTTH probably wouldn't make much of a difference
    -From what I can see (and this is just observation with a little speculation) Eir seem to have influence on where Open Eir/ KN install the splice boxes. The splice boxes tend to be prioritised in places where there are not a lot of Eir customers (although the Eir sales will tell you that they are prioritising areas that have no/very poor internet connections (I call BS on this).

    These are only observations for people who don't know what is going on, so correct/supplement if you have a different experience...
    They have a few poles to replace and straighten up down my road. They are due put up Fibre sometime over the weekend or the early days of next. With regards to my post about Ballyneety Co. Limerick they are laying Fibre on the road leading west to Crecora as I post. They started this job yesterday afternoon. They were working in a manhole at a FTTC cabinet at the side of the village where the lines come in from the exchange building which is about 2km to the east in the townland of Inch St. Lawernce.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭Chieftain


    Lot of work going on in Muckross the last few days. KN & Diffusion (I think that's the name) have been working away. KN were there last week too and the guy said that the FTTH was pretty much ready to go. Anyone have any clue as to timelines? Cant see any splicer boxes, but they did have manhole covers up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭plodder


    KeRbDoG wrote: »
    Rural R125 Swords RIB05 update: Ground works completed. Seems they had to dig up certain parts of the existing underground duct work (maybe some was damaged/collapsed). Road and footpaths all now correctly reinstated instead of temp coverings. Now the wait begins to see what the next step will be.
    Saw a KN Group van with a mounted cherrypicker type setup driving slowly up the local roads looking at poles and overhead lines. Fingers crossed there be more movement soon
    Spotted the same (or similar) van in Oldtown this morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭spix


    Pangea wrote: »
    What happened exactly? Did you refuse to get it in because they wouldn't go through the attic? By the way you're talking it's happened more than once?

    The main issue is that apparently it isn't live... even though they told me it was live on 31st and even sent out someone to install it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭damienirel


    Are we long overdue an update to the rollout map at this stage? Could we see one later today?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    Jpmarn wrote: »
    I think fibre lines are being laid on roads coming out of Ballyneety Co. Limerick, part of my local exchange of Inch St. Lawernce. They are suppose to work down in my direction in the next few days. No sign of any bush cutters or tree surgeons turning up ahead of the lines men.

    I can confirm that they are laying or have laid Fibre cables on the main road north towards Limerick and west towards Crecora. But not yet on the main road south towards Bruff and Kilmallock. Meanwhile on my local road called Bohermore the bushcutters have done their jobs of clearing the lines and the poles in preparation.


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