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Former Former · 30-05-2017 10:23PM

swiwi_ wrote: »

I have zero interest in wasting time debating the 2005 tackle on this forum. It was a bad tackle, the players should have been sent off, they should have been cited if they hadn't been sent off.

If other people feel like talking about it. Again. Then so be it.

So why did you bring it up?

Yeah_Right · 31-05-2017 12:00AM

Former Former wrote: »

So why did you bring it up?

I've lived in Ireland for 10 years. All it takes for an Irishman to bring it up is for them to realise that I'm a kiwi. It's both tiresome and amusing.

Swiwi, it wasn't a tackle. It was a ruck clean out. Stop letting them get away with this " spear tackle" crap. It was a poorly executed clean out

Bridge93 · 31-05-2017 01:16AM

I suggest a deal is struck. Northerners will get over the BOD incident when those from New Zealand get over Wayne Barnes and how he supposedly cost NZ a World Cup.
We can then get on with boudmouthing each other about strictly current events.

31-05-2017 07:53AM

Bridge93 wrote: »

I suggest a deal is struck. Northerners will get over the BOD incident when those from New Zealand get over Wayne Barnes and how he supposedly cost NZ a World Cup.
We can then get on with boudmouthing each other about strictly current events.

You just had to go there, didn't you? :pac:

Christy42 · 31-05-2017 08:07AM

Bridge93 wrote: »

I suggest a deal is struck. Northerners will get over the BOD incident when those from New Zealand get over Wayne Barnes and how he supposedly cost NZ a World Cup.
We can then get on with boudmouthing each other about strictly current events.

Nah let's go older. What happened in 1925 that was controversial?
Seriously though NZ have been helped to a WC since with bad refereeing decisions and while I feel like those involved in the BOD incident should get a ban it probably would not affect the NZ team for this series too much. Actually scratch the ban- if they insist it was accidental then force them to sit through a week long beginnners course on how to various actions in rugby safely:p. We can make Wayne Barnes sit through a course on the basic rules to make it even.

Buer · 31-05-2017 08:09AM

Christy42 wrote: »

Nah let's go older. What happened in 1925 that was controversial?

Where's Jaco when you need him?

molloyjh · 31-05-2017 08:38AM

Do people really talk about that BOD incident anymore? The only time I ever hear about it these days is here when we're talking about stuff like this.

irishbucsfan · 31-05-2017 08:44AM

molloyjh wrote: »

Do people really talk about that BOD incident anymore? The only time I ever hear about it these days is here when we're talking about stuff like this.

As someone else said the last I really heard about it was when Umaga was linked to Munster.

Yeah_Right says that he hears about it all the time when people realise he's a kiwi... I know many kiwis, team mates etc, and I've never heard it discussed. Maybe people who are less attached to the game.

thomond2006 · 31-05-2017 08:57AM

Can we please stay on topic: Hayes.

molloyjh · 31-05-2017 09:26AM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

As someone else said the last I really heard about it was when Umaga was linked to Munster.

Yeah_Right says that he hears about it all the time when people realise he's a kiwi... I know many kiwis, team mates etc, and I've never heard it discussed. Maybe people who are less attached to the game.

Yeah, casual fans might be more inclined to bring it up I suppose. It wouldn't even enter my head if I met a Kiwi.

EDIT: Also, Hayes.

pickarooney · 31-05-2017 09:44AM

I'm definitely going to bring it up with my Kiwi teammates on Saturday

Teferi · 31-05-2017 09:46AM

Yeah_Right wrote: »

I've lived in Ireland for 10 years. All it takes for an Irishman to bring it up is for them to realise that I'm a kiwi. It's both tiresome and amusing.

Swiwi, it wasn't a tackle. It was a ruck clean out. Stop letting them get away with this " spear tackle" crap. It was a poorly executed clean out

This is directly after they ask you if you're Australian?

Buer · 31-05-2017 10:51AM

Ken Owens ruled out of the first game and has said that he'll be " hopefully fit for the second or third game." He hasn't played any rugby for a month at this point and his return date is tenuous.

It suggests to me that Gatland sees him as a very strong possibility for the starting jersey. If he doesn't make the 3rd game, he's out of the running for the first test, I would imagine.

irishbucsfan · 31-05-2017 10:54AM

That's what he said during the buildup to the Pro 12 final. He said he wouldn't be back for the first game but was aiming for the 2nd. I'd say there'll be a couple of guys who are a little short of this weekend.

swiwi_ · 31-05-2017 11:08AM

Buer wrote: »

Jeez, don't be a sook.

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on s'amuse.

Buer · 31-05-2017 11:11AM

I haven't been this offended since John Hayes was called up to the 2009 squad.

thomond2006 · 31-05-2017 11:34AM

Buer wrote: »

I haven't been this offended since John Hayes was called up to the 2009 squad.

This post make thomond something something.

dub_skav · 31-05-2017 11:55AM

Bridge93 wrote: »

I suggest a deal is struck. Northerners will get over the BOD incident when those from New Zealand get over Wayne Barnes and how he supposedly cost NZ a World Cup.
We can then get on with boudmouthing each other about strictly current events.

But Joubert made up for the Wayne Barnes thing already, so we'd need something else for balance.

Yeah_Right · 31-05-2017 11:55AM

Teferi wrote: »

This is directly after they ask you if you're Australian?

They quickly realise I'm a kiwi when I pick them up and drive them head first into the ground.

I didn't mean to imply that I hear about it all the time sorry. It is from casual fans when we're watching a match. I'm sure that kiwi lads playing rugby over here wouldn't get grief about it these days. If the missus sees Umaga on tv she calls him a murderer and leaves the room. It's great

Yeah_Right · 31-05-2017 12:00PM

Bridge93 wrote: »

I suggest a deal is struck. Northerners will get over the BOD incident when those from New Zealand get over Wayne Barnes and how he supposedly cost NZ a World Cup.
We can then get on with boudmouthing each other about strictly current events.

Sounds like a plan. Now if you can get the Welsh to stop complaining about the Hayden lineout in 76 and the Boks to stop whinging about Clive Norling in 81, us kiwis will stop bringing up the disallowed try in 1905 and Suzie the tea lady in 95

You could restore peace to the (rugby) galaxy.

John Hayes, undefeated.

aloooof · 31-05-2017 12:09PM

Yeah_Right wrote: »

Sounds like a plan. Now if you can get the Welsh to stop complaining about the Hayden lineout in 76 and the Boks to stop whinging about Clive Norling in 81, us kiwis will stop bringing up the disallowed try in 1905 and Suzie the tea lady in 95

You could restore peace to the (rugby) galaxy.

John Hayes, undefeated.

Can we get Mike Phillips try from the different ball in 2011 on the list as well? I'm still bitter over that...

awec · 31-05-2017 12:31PM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

That's what he said during the buildup to the Pro 12 final. He said he wouldn't be back for the first game but was aiming for the 2nd. I'd say there'll be a couple of guys who are a little short of this weekend.

SOB had some sort of strapping / bandage on his hamstring area in the photos on the plane.

Webbs · 31-05-2017 01:44PM

Yeah_Right wrote: »

Sounds like a plan. Now if you can get the Welsh to stop complaining about the Hayden lineout in 76 and the Boks to stop whinging about Clive Norling in 81, us kiwis will stop bringing up the disallowed try in 1905 and Suzie the tea lady in 95

You could restore peace to the (rugby) galaxy.

John Hayes, undefeated.

I just rewatched the Hayden incident from 78 it was just so comical (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r4iOOjOWL4) 4m 50s if you have never seen it before.

We'll stop talking about that it the Irish stop talking about BOD being left out of the Lions team

Anatom · 31-05-2017 01:48PM

Webbs wrote: »

I just rewatched the Hayden incident from 78 it was just so comical (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r4iOOjOWL4) 4m 50s if you have never seen it before.

That's amazing! I'd never seen it before. I'm torn between admiration for his audacity in trying it in the first place, and disgust that the referee was in completely the wrong place and couldn't (or didn't) see it for what it was.

stephen_n · 31-05-2017 03:24PM

So diving was in rugby before soccer :eek:

jacothelad · 31-05-2017 04:01PM

Christy42 wrote: »

Nah let's go older. What happened in 1925 that was controversial?

Scotland won a Grand Slam, Ireland were second. England lost to the ABs at Twickers.

jacothelad · 31-05-2017 04:03PM

Webbs wrote: »

I just rewatched the Hayden incident from 78 it was just so comical (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r4iOOjOWL4) 4m 50s if you have never seen it before.

We'll stop talking about that it the Irish stop talking about BOD being left out of the Lions team

Yes. Hayden's despicable cheat robbed Wales of a deserved victory. Nothing new in the thinskins resorting to underhand cheating.

pickarooney · 31-05-2017 04:35PM

Webbs wrote: »

I just rewatched the Hayden incident from 78 it was just so comical (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r4iOOjOWL4) 4m 50s if you have never seen it before.

We'll stop talking about that it the Irish stop talking about BOD being left out of the Lions team

The Welsh kicker's style is fantastic!

swiwi_ · 31-05-2017 05:54PM

jacothelad wrote: »

Yes. Hayden's despicable cheat robbed Wales of a deserved victory. Nothing new in the thinskins resorting to underhand cheating.

An Ulsterman with a chip on his shoulder. That's a first.

It was the 70s Jaco. Most of us were only still itches in our daddy's pants.

As an aside - but it ruins your story - the referee apparently awarded a penalty for a different offence, and was not sucked in by Hayden's ridiculous dive.

I suppose if I want to do old school bitter 'n' twisted there's Deans no-try in 1905. Were you at that game out of interest

Christy42 · 31-05-2017 06:00PM

swiwi_ wrote: »

An Ulsterman with a chip on his shoulder. That's a first.

It was the 70s Jaco. Most of us were only still itches in our daddy's pants.

As an aside - but it ruins your story - the referee apparently awarded a penalty for a different offence, and was not sucked in by Hayden's ridiculous dive.

I suppose if I want to do old school bitter 'n' twisted there's Deans no-try in 1905. Were you at that game out of interest

What was the ruling on play acting at the time? Should the call have been reversed? I feel like it is the sort of thread to complain about a game in 1905.

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