Terrorist Attack in Manchester (Read MOD WARNING in OP Updated 24/05/2017))

Help!!!! · 24-05-2017 08:26PM

Hillary For President wrote: »

You might be discouraged from killing for Allah if you knew your entire family would be deported.

Unfortunately theres people on here who think they are actually " Lone Wolves " & that family/friends/community would report them to the police if they knew.

Outlaw Pete · 24-05-2017 08:27PM

UK children blown to bits at a pop concert and Lily Allen's on Twitter defending Islam and retweeting passages from the Quran.... so outraged is she at people saying anything negative about it. No doubt Russell Brand will be along any minute now with a Trews report about how young Muslim men in the UK are just disenfranchised.. the neck on these people.

Help!!!! · 24-05-2017 08:28PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

Right so you're saying if a Radical Islamist has 5 brothers and 3 sisters, that if he kills people then you lock up the 8 siblings?

For the crime of being related to him?

Why stop there? Let's lock up a wife, all cousins, 2nd cousins, uncles, aunts, nieces, nephews, grandparents, great-grandparents while we're at it.

Do you have any idea what amount of nonsense you're spouting?

Do you really think that family members dont know?? Maybe if you left your safe space/bubble it might enlighten you
You do realise that 66% of Muslims in the UK said they wouldnt report someone joining ISIS?

wonderfullife · 24-05-2017 08:29PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

UK children blown to bits at a pop concert and Lily Allen's on Twitter defending Islam and retweeting passages from the Quran.... so outraged is she at people saying anything negative about it. No doubt Russell Brand will be along any minute now with a Trews report about how young Muslim men in the UK are just disenfranchised.. the neck on these people.

Where was your outrage over Katie Hopkins tweeting there needs to be a "final solution"?

Very easy to have a go at people who don't believe Islam is at fault and who believe it's twisted people using twisted rationale loosely based on religion.

jackofalltrades · 24-05-2017 08:31PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

2 of the top 4 worst terrorist attacks in this decade in Europe have been committed by white men. That's just a fact.

Anders Breivik meticulously planned and massacred 77 people, targeting children at a youth camp and gave Neo-Nazi salutes at his trial. Andreas Lubitz meticulously planned and killed 149 people by flying the plane into a mountain. Reasons apparently unknown.

Lubitz act of terrorism was the single worst in Europe in the decade.

The excuses made for these 2 men reflect the fact that people only see "terrorism" when it's done by brown people who speak another language or follow another culture.

If it's just a regular old European white person, then they were "troubled", "disaffected", "sick".

In the aftermath of the Germanwings crash, almost all media attention was focused on Lubitz state of mind. Not one publication is pondering whether Salman Abedi was suffering from depression or mental illness. Why? Why should it matter what Lubitz state of mind was and not what Abedi's was?

So your arguments are so weak now that you're trying to bring race into the discussion.
The crash of Germanwings flight 9525 wasn't terrorism, it was an act of suicide.
And I've yet to see someone make excuses for Anders Breivik.

wonderfullife wrote: »

Nope.

Check out the Europol stats.

The majority of terrorist related incidents in Europe over the past 15 years has been non-Islamic.

According to Wiki Islamic violence killed approximately 562 people and injured a further 4174 people in the last 15 years in Europe.
Care to show us stats for any other type of terrorist group, that has numbers coming close to that level of carnage?

Atoms for Peace · 24-05-2017 08:31PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

Right so you're saying if a Radical Islamist has 5 brothers and 3 sisters, that if he kills people then you lock up the 8 siblings?

For the crime of being related to him?

Why stop there? Let's lock up a wife, all cousins, 2nd cousins, uncles, aunts, nieces, nephews, grandparents, great-grandparents while we're at it.

Do you have any idea what amount of nonsense you're spouting?

It those seem to work fairly well in N. Korea, no Islamic attacks so far! :rolleyes:

wonderfullife · 24-05-2017 08:33PM

Help!!!! wrote: »

Do you really think that family members dont know?? Maybe if you left your safe space/bubble it might enlighten you
You do realise that 66% of Muslims in the UK said they wouldnt report someone joining ISIS?

Ok I'll go back into my safe space now.

Humour me, If I decide to walk out of my safe space right now on to the street and kill 4 people, do you want everyone related to me thrown in prison? How about my uncle who I haven't spoken to in 8 years?

Lock him up?

If not, why not? You're suggesting exactly that for the "Muslims" if "one of theirs" does it.

Help!!!! · 24-05-2017 08:33PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

Where was your outrage over Katie Hopkins tweeting there needs to be a "final solution"?

Very easy to have a go at people who don't believe Islam is at fault and who believe it's twisted people using twisted rationale loosely based on religion.

There needs to be a final solution. Do you like seeing little girls being killed??
Many of the Muslims who are in the west & are coming to the west dont want to live by western ways but for people like you its easier to go around calling people racists while calling for more " refugees " to be let in to Europe

Mod: Banned.

Help!!!! · 24-05-2017 08:35PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

Ok I'll go back into my safe space now.

Humour me, If I decide to walk out of my safe space right now on to the street and kill 4 people, do you want everyone related to me thrown in prison? How about my uncle who I haven't spoken to in 8 years?

Lock him up?

If not, why not? You're suggesting exactly that for the "Muslims" if "one of theirs" does it.

Well if it stops another person being killed then YES lock your whole family up

end of the road · 24-05-2017 08:36PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Look at the reaction to Morrissey. He spoke out and was ridiculed. I did not say there was no condemnation I said condemnation is frowned upon. Please do not twist my words around to suit your own agenda.

Anyway, isn't it all spirit of the Blitz, you know, the emergency services are fab (and they are) the police are great, we are united in grief, we will not let this atrocity ruin our lives, we have to keep going, Here, light another candle, all shyte talk, when the parents of those kids are just fkn devastated.

I think the anger of Mancunians will be channelled in a good way after this. They are a proud people and will not be walked upon by anyone. I hope the anger is a force for good. Because as it is, the next atrocity is just around the corner, and good o if you are a candle maker or a florist. But not if you want to voice your feelings.

Too many isms prevent it.

you are voicing your feelings. the isms aren't preventing it because the isms don't prevent it. what you want to do is say whatever you like, without challenge and without question. correctly that isn't going to happen if what you say is factually incorrect.

wonderfullife · 24-05-2017 08:37PM

jackofalltrades wrote: »

The crash of Germanwings flight 9525 wasn't terrorism, it was an act of suicide.

What did Salman Abedi do then?

So by your logic the Manchester attack of the other night was not terrorism it was merely an act of suicide.

Tell me the material differences between Lubitz and Abedi:

Both meticulously planned it.
Both committed suicide.
Both knew many innocent people would die in their act of suicide.

The Germanwings flight was bloody terrorism!! Suicide is killing yourself! It was mass-murder ffs, just like Abedi committed mass-murder.

SMH at the attempt to call one a suicide because it's a "troubled white guy" and the other a terrorist.

Professor Moriarty · 24-05-2017 08:38PM

Help!!!! wrote: »

Well if it stops another person being killed then YES lock your whole family up

Jaysus.

wonderfullife · 24-05-2017 08:39PM

Help!!!! wrote: »

Well if it stops another person being killed then YES lock your whole family up

LOL

North Korea is a better country for you to live in. You'll fit right in. No rights, no freedoms but it'll be safer.

Hank Scorpio · 24-05-2017 08:40PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Lily Allen's on Twitter defending Islam and retweeting passages from the Quran....

Sure Katy Perry is preaching about open borders and for everyone to get along since the attack. 'No Barriers, No Borders, We All Just Need to Co-Exist' , from inside her gated mansion in Beverly Hills.

She's bought a fully guarded 19 Million home and has a constant entourage of security no matter where she goes.

These people aren't living in the real world, but sadly the lapdogs still suck it up.

24-05-2017 08:40PM

Help!!!! wrote: »

Do you really think that family members dont know?? Maybe if you left your safe space/bubble it might enlighten you
You do realise that 66% of Muslims in the UK said they wouldnt report someone joining ISIS?

I wonder what percentage of Irish people wouldn't report someone joining the IRA back in the day.
Your idea is ridiculous. Don't punish the son for the sins of the father.
I can guarantee there's no way in the world I would be going to prison or be deported for something one of my family members did wrong. Would you?

BalcombeSt4 · 24-05-2017 08:42PM

One of the worst massacres of the whole Middle East conflict was Sabra & Shatila and it was carried out by a Christian "rebel" group who slaughtered thousands of innocent women & children over the course of three days.

24-05-2017 08:42PM

Help!!!! wrote: »

There needs to be a final solution.

Do you even understand what you are saying

Professor Moriarty · 24-05-2017 08:44PM

bubblypop wrote: »

Do you even understand what you are saying

I'm sure I heard the words 'final solution' somewhere before....

Erik Shin · 24-05-2017 08:45PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

I'm sure I heard the words 'final solution' somewhere before....

80's hit by Europe

pidgeoneyes · 24-05-2017 08:45PM

Internment is just another form of recruitment, so that won't work.
It's time anyone on a watchlist was GPS tagged. Legally signed off by a judge.

DrumSteve · 24-05-2017 08:45PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

I'm sure I heard the words 'final solution' somewhere before....

think katie hopkins mentioned it on twitter earlier.

Professor Moriarty · 24-05-2017 08:46PM

Erik Shin wrote: »

80's hit by Europe

Close but no cigar.

Not_A_Racist · 24-05-2017 08:46PM

People are calling for a multi cultural world and then those same people act surprised when we actually experience other cultures expressing themselves.

The whole point of having a multicultural society is that people of other cultures will do things which are completely alien to you. That's why we say they're part of a different culture.

Integration isn't possible by definition as there isn't a standard or typical culture to integrate into.

Mod: Banned.

DrumSteve · 24-05-2017 08:46PM

pidgeoneyes wrote: »

Internment is just another form of recruitment, so that won't work.
It's time anyone on a watchlist was GPS tagged. Legally signed off by a judge.

yeah like that chap in france who beheaded a priest.

jackofalltrades · 24-05-2017 08:46PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

What did Salman Abedi do then?

So by your logic the Manchester attack of the other night was not terrorism it was merely an act of suicide.

Tell me the material differences between Lubitz and Abedi:

Both meticulously planned it.
Both committed suicide.
Both knew many innocent people would die in their act of suicide.

The Germanwings flight was bloody terrorism!! Suicide is killing yourself! It was mass-murder ffs, just like Abedi committed mass-murder.

SMH at the attempt to call one a suicide because it's a "troubled white guy" and the other a terrorist.

For a violent act to be considered terrorism there has to be a political aim behind it.

Professor Moriarty · 24-05-2017 08:47PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

think katie hopkins mentioned it on twitter earlier.

Yeah. She's not so bright, obviously.

Erik Shin · 24-05-2017 08:47PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Close but no cigar.

Bet you sang it though!

DrumSteve · 24-05-2017 08:48PM

Erik Shin wrote: »

80's hit by Europe

ill never be able to unhear that now

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 24-05-2017 08:48PM

Not_A_Racist wrote: »

People are calling for a multi cultural world and then those same people act surprised when we actually experience other cultures expressing themselves.

The whole point of having a multicultural society is that people of other cultures will do things which are completely alien to you. That's why we say they're part of a different culture.

Integration isn't possible by definition as there isn't a standard or typical culture to integrate into.

Is this post for real?!? Murdering kids at a pop concert is people expressing themselves?!

24-05-2017 08:49PM

Erik Shin wrote: »

80's hit by Europe

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Terrorist Attack in Manchester (Read MOD WARNING in OP Updated 24/05/2017))

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