Terrorist Attack in Manchester (Read MOD WARNING in OP Updated 24/05/2017))

tomwaterford · 24-05-2017 07:30PM

gitzy16v wrote: »

More waffle

Waffle>idoicy

Interment=idoicy

Snake Plisken · 24-05-2017 07:30PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

Internment of innocent people.

Gotcha.

Good plan. It'll end well. Has always ended well.

Idiocy.

No it's not and it's the only realistic thing that will work they are not on a watch list for no reason! Human rights go out the window with these boys as they afforded no human rights to the innocents they murdered!

Help!!!! · 24-05-2017 07:31PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

I get it. You don't like Islam and brown people. Boo-hoo. Newsflash white people do all of the above too.

The amount of Eastern European white gangs involved in human trafficking, child grooming, assaults is off the charts too.

This constant search to demonize a religion and ignore "your own" doing the same thing is ridiculous.

Personally I think Islam is a load of nonsense, just like all the other major religions. I don't think Jesus had superpowers or whatever the hell we're taught to believe in church growing up either.

Well your very much wrong there I have lived among Muslims so I know what I'm talking about....My best mate is Sikh, I have friends that are Muslim & have had many chats about their religion.
Yes white people do the same thing but why bring more in whose religion says its ok to be a pedophile? You do realise that one the girl hits puberty its ok for a Muslim to have sex with her?
Did you know in Southall back in the 80's the Sikh community set up a neighbour watch to stop the Muslims preying on their daughters? What did the Muslims do then? Moved onto the easier white girls because they knew white people would call each other racist/bigot etc

wonderfullife · 24-05-2017 07:31PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Awful as were the murders committed by Brevik and Lubitz, to me they were the epitome of "Lone Wolves".

Islamic terrorism on the other hand is most certainly not comprised of Lone Wolves, much as the media want it to be that way.

That is not taking away from the horror of the murders committed by the two mad mentioned above.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-14280210

Yeah total "lone wolf" this Breivik......

And yeah, when you refuse to call them terrorist scum by using eupehmisms like "lone wolf" you are taking away from the horror of the murders.

Salman Abedi is a terrorist piece of scum. Breivik and Lubitz too.

gitzy16v · 24-05-2017 07:31PM

tomwaterford wrote: »

Waffle>idoicy

Interment=idoicy

Interment of innocents is idiocy.
Nobody is suggesting that.

Spanish Eyes · 24-05-2017 07:32PM

Whatever your views on Morrissey, he is saying out loud what a lot of people are thinking silently, afraid to speak out.

Because you know, they have to be brave, carry on, not allow events to disturb their lives and are fkn gagged because of PCism and perceived racism and any other ism you can mention to silence the truth.

We need anger, not flowers and candles, and more people to lead the way by speaking out.

Children were murdered with flying nails and bolts FGS. That should be a total gamechanger, but still the silent vigils and candles because it is not right to condemn anyone nowadays is it?

wonderfullife · 24-05-2017 07:33PM

Help!!!! wrote: »

Did you know in Southall back in the 80's the Sikh community set up a neighbour watch to stop the Muslims preying on their daughters? What did the Muslims do then? Moved onto the easier white girls because they knew white people would call each other racist/bigot etc

LOL most racist post of the week, well done.

You're saying ALL Muslims in West London preyed on the Sikh's daughters?

I'm done responding to trash like this.

24-05-2017 07:34PM

Help!!!! wrote: »

Well your very much wrong there I have lived among Muslims so I know what I'm talking about....My best mate is Sikh, I have friends that are Muslim

I doubt it.

tomwaterford · 24-05-2017 07:34PM

gitzy16v wrote: »

Interment of innocents is idiocy.
Nobody is suggesting that.

People on watchlists are guilty of what??

If your not guilty...obv must be innocent?

Help!!!! · 24-05-2017 07:34PM

end of the road wrote: »

no it wouldn't. it would fail like every other single nonsense proposal that operates on discriminatory grounds.
it would also be a breach of plenty of laws and quite frankly, those of us who believe in democracy and the rule of law wouldn't tolerate it either. discrimination never works.

Well do you think these terrorists care about our laws? Hows it discrimination?
Terrorist kills people his family end up deported or jailed....that goes for all terrorists, NO DISCRIMINATION!!

Or would you prefer to keep seeing little girls killed after concerts??

Spanish Eyes · 24-05-2017 07:35PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-14280210

Yeah total "lone wolf" this Breivik......

And yeah, when you refuse to call them terrorist scum by using eupehmisms like "lone wolf" you are taking away from the horror of the murders.

Salman Abedi is a terrorist piece of scum. Breivik and Lubitz too.

That report was in 2011, any updates yet? Oh and did Lubitz have any cells also?

The point of my post (which you skimmed I reckon and got the rage....) was that B and L were working alone. Islamic terrorism is worldwide.

But they are all terrorists for sure, just some have international backup, funds and training don't they.

retro:electro · 24-05-2017 07:35PM

Every time I see the face of that little 8 year old my heart breaks. There is just something about her face, the picture of absolute innocence.
It's just awful. She did nothing wrong, yet she had to die. I doubt she even knew what terrorism meant. I feel like this world has failed her- and all of the other victims. It's awful when anyone loses their life due to terrorism, but a child is just the worst. I hope this isn't going to be a new thing, targeting kids. How cowardice.
TBH I'm sick of reading the back and forth between the left and the right. How can a tragedy, the essence of which we all agree on, create more divide and bring out the worst nature in some people?

gitzy16v · 24-05-2017 07:35PM

tomwaterford wrote: »

People on watchlists are guilty of what??

If your not guilty...obv must be innocent?

I dont know what they are guilty of...I dont have access to that information.

wonderfullife · 24-05-2017 07:36PM

gitzy16v wrote: »

Interment of innocents is idiocy.
Nobody is suggesting that.

In this country you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

Interning anyone without trial is locking innocent people in jail.

So yeah that's exactly what is being suggested.

KERSPLAT! · 24-05-2017 07:36PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Whatever your views on Morrissey, he is saying out loud what a lot of people are thinking silently, afraid to speak out.

Because you know, they have to be brave, carry on, not allow events to disturb their lives and are fkn gagged because of PCism and perceived racism and any other ism you can mention to silence the truth.

We need anger, not flowers and candles, and more people to lead the way by speaking out.

Children were murdered with flying nails and bolts FGS. That should be a total gamechanger, but still the silent vigils and candles because it is not right to condemn anyone nowadays is it?

Who isn't condemning the attacker?

Help!!!! · 24-05-2017 07:36PM

bubblypop wrote: »

Well I like to rely on actual evidence, from any source.
Not just some site where anyone can say anything they like

But it is reported in local papers not on the mainstream....just watch the video & tell me what happened to that girl shouldnt have made the BBC news

Hillary For President · 24-05-2017 07:37PM

I saw article in a music magazine attacking Morrissey for his facebook post and every single comment on the article attacked the author. Was great to see.

I think the Muslims finally went too far by slaughtering children in city like Manchester. It's not London or Stockholm, people won't forgive or forget.

gitzy16v · 24-05-2017 07:37PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

In this country you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

Interning anyone without trial is locking innocent people in jail.

So yeah that's exactly what is being suggested.

They must have done something wrong to be on a terror watchlist.
So if they have done anything that has a sniff of extremism about it,arrest,jail or deport.

24-05-2017 07:37PM

Help!!!! wrote: »

Well your very much wrong there I have lived among Muslims so I know what I'm talking about....My best mate is Sikh, I have friends that are Muslim & have had many chats about their religion.
Yes white people do the same thing but why bring more in whose religion says its ok to be a pedophile? You do realise that one the girl hits puberty its ok for a Muslim to have sex with her?
Did you know in Southall back in the 80's the Sikh community set up a neighbour watch to stop the Muslims preying on their daughters? What did the Muslims do then? Moved onto the easier white girls because they knew white people would call each other racist/bigot etc

Dear god.

I don't think any Muslim would want to be your friend tbh. Or Sikh for that matter.

Help!!!! · 24-05-2017 07:38PM

bubblypop wrote: »

I doubt it.

Actually I have but believe what you like

Help!!!! · 24-05-2017 07:41PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

LOL most racist post of the week, well done.

You're saying ALL Muslims in West London preyed on the Sikh's daughters?

I'm done responding to trash like this.

Really? dont see where I wrote ALL Muslims but sure call m racist all you want

kopite386 · 24-05-2017 07:42PM

14 year old school girl Sorrell Leczkowski is another victim named
Add her with the unnamed police officer and that is 15 victims
I was also reading in addition to the 22 who were killed there are 20 or more of the 59 injured in hospital who are in critical condition with life threatening injuries so that death toll could easily rise

end of the road · 24-05-2017 07:43PM

Snake Plisken wrote: »

What a load of horsecrap! Typical of the left oh but white Europeans males are a lot worse then what the radical Muslims have done!

because the far right need to be reminded that evil acts are done by people of all races and colour. the far right just think only the brown people do bad things. if people used common sense then one wouldn't need to be reminded of the facts.

Snake Plisken wrote: »

I really count care less about hurting Muslims feelings a lot of Muslims know what these guys are planning or have suspicions but do nothing about it!

sure. some people do know what people are planning and do nothing about it. that is wrong.

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Btw the mental illness lone wolf line is thrown around a lot by the left when it comes to these Islamic scumbags!

that is not unique to the far left with muslims. plenty of people do it for non-muslims when they commit attacks. mental illness is not something that can be dismissed but we shouldn't always assume it to be the case either. we must always wait until the facts are known.

Snake Plisken wrote: »

As i said last night and many more agree time to start internment of everyone on European watch lists. How many more times are we going to have these carried out by Muslims who were known to Police!

can't be done. it breaches the law, it's not cost effective and we haven't the space. it also doesn't work. what criminals would we have to release to allow for some of the illedged islamic extremists to be interned?

Spanish Eyes · 24-05-2017 07:43PM

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

Who isn't condemning the attacker?

Look at the reaction to Morrissey. He spoke out and was ridiculed. I did not say there was no condemnation I said condemnation is frowned upon. Please do not twist my words around to suit your own agenda.

Anyway, isn't it all spirit of the Blitz, you know, the emergency services are fab (and they are) the police are great, we are united in grief, we will not let this atrocity ruin our lives, we have to keep going, Here, light another candle, all shyte talk, when the parents of those kids are just fkn devastated.

I think the anger of Mancunians will be channelled in a good way after this. They are a proud people and will not be walked upon by anyone. I hope the anger is a force for good. Because as it is, the next atrocity is just around the corner, and good o if you are a candle maker or a florist. But not if you want to voice your feelings.

Too many isms prevent it.

Help!!!! · 24-05-2017 07:45PM

Candie wrote: »

Dear god.

I don't think any Muslim would want to be your friend tbh. Or Sikh for that matter.

What because I wrote what actually happened in the 80's?? Ah sure lets ignore it then, never happened no girls groomed/raped by Muslims gangs:rolleyes:
I take it your female? You do realise that your rated below their women, right?

wonderfullife · 24-05-2017 07:46PM

gitzy16v wrote: »

They must have done something wrong to be on a terror watchlist.
So if they have done anything that has a sniff of extremism about it,arrest,jail or deport.

If they have committed a crime then arrest them, charge them and go to trial.

You're not suggesting that. You're suggesting interment for everyone on a watch-list.

They're on a "watch-list" because they have not committed any crimes. If they had committed crimes they'd have been arrested already.

You're saying "lock them all up that way they can't commit any crimes".

It involves locking thousands of innocent people in prison on the basis they MIGHT some day commit a crime.

If that's the type of country you want to live in, then let's lock every alcoholic in jail because they're statistically more likely to drink-drive. They've committed no crime but they MIGHT some day.

24-05-2017 07:46PM

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Which part was nonsense exactly? To me it seems an accurate and to the point statement, barbarism does begin at home it seems.

It doesn't provide any possible answers though. It's easy to aim criticism
I didn't understand the whole "fair play Morrisey" post either to be honest

What was Theresa May supposed to say?
From what I can see the people of Great Britain want to get on with things and show that their way of life won't be stopped, that they won't live in fear
why would the queen change her plans when many people are determined not to change theirs. What signal would that send out?

Until Morrisey starts giving his solutions to the problem, I'll take his criticism with a pinch of salt. He criticises May for living in a bullet proof bubble, what sense does that make. She has chosen a life to serve her country, and that brings a whole load of serious, dangerous issues with it. she lives in a bullet proof bubble for a reason, it's not a perk of the job

Ironically I'm a fan of Morrisey's and not a fan of the queen

gitzy16v · 24-05-2017 07:48PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

If they have committed a crime then arrest them, charge them and go to trial.

You're not suggesting that. You're suggesting interment for everyone on a watch-list.

They're on a "watch-list" because they have not committed any crimes. If they had committed crimes they'd have been arrested already.

You're saying "lock them all up that way they can't commit any crimes.

It involves locking thousands of innocent people in prison on the basis they MIGHT some day commit a crime.

If that's the type of country you want to live in, then let's lock every alcoholic in jail because they're statistically more likely to drink-drive. They've committed no crime but they MIGHT some day.

For a start I didnt say that....
So the rest of your waffle is irrelevant...just like most of your previous input.

wonderfullife · 24-05-2017 07:50PM

Help!!!! wrote: »

Really? dont see where I wrote ALL Muslims but sure call m racist all you want

You said:

"the Sikh community set up a neighbour watch to stop the Muslims preying on their daughters?"

To stop "the Muslims". Which Muslims? A tiny minority who were preying on young women? A large majority?

You said "the Muslims" meaning all of them.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 24-05-2017 07:51PM

My Muslim friend was 26 losing her virginity. I'm no fan of the religion but let's call a spade a spade, western kids are sexualised a good bit before muslim children are. I'm not saying that to blame anyone but you can't blame religion for that, look at our own kids.

Terrorist Attack in Manchester (Read MOD WARNING in OP Updated 24/05/2017))

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