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Terrorist Attack in Manchester (Read MOD WARNING in OP Updated 24/05/2017))

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  • #2222
    evil_seed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭evil_seed


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Go down and look for yourself, you will see the future of Ireland in that small town, over run with the religion of peace allah worshippers.

    Are you from there yourself? How are you so enlightened?


  • #2223
    jmayo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Loads of ways to get there. Boat from Spain to Morroco and by road the rest of the way.

    This is impossible to police.

    Also, I really don't see how the British putting soldiers on the streets will prevent anything as they can attack anywhere at any time at any public event.

    So really just do nothing then ?

    BTW how many attacks have been thwarted by soldiers and heavily armed police.
    Remember how the guy in London was shot before he could any more damage?
    Remember how the guy at the Louvre was shot before he could any more damage?
    DrWu wrote: »
    But that's just not true. The IRA killed AND targeted civilians all the time. And the people who ordered them are in very influential positions in Irish life. Like it or not people need to dump the "our terrorists good, their terrorists bad" routine.

    Kingsmill, 11
    Warrington, 2
    Enniskillen, 11
    Red Lion, 3
    Abercorn, 2
    Claudy, 9
    Coleraine, 6
    Birmingham, 21
    Hilton Hotel, 2
    La Mon bombing, 12
    Dunmurray train, 3
    20th April (multiple locations), 2
    Harrods bombing, 3 + 3
    Victoria Station, 1
    Teebane, 7
    Baltic exchange, 3
    Bishopsgate Bomb, 1
    Docklands bomb, 2

    I am not going to get into this.
    I have no time for them and will not excuse their actions.

    My point is they were a different prospect both in terms of ultimate objectives and how they operated.

    I will say if they wanted they had the capacity to slaughter thousands.

    And if ISIS and their hangers on develop half the technical and operational capabilities of PIRA then that is one scary prospect.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • #2224
    Boom_Bap
    Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    MOD Reminder
    A reminder that this is not a thread on the IRA, please stop bringing it up, it's also included in the opening post. It's noted in the thread title that the warning is in the OP.


  • #2225
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    So sorry Fred - 'British' politicians would NEVER take mercenary advantage of a situation.

    Of course they would.

    In this situation though, they are doing the right thing.


  • #2226
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    evil_seed wrote: »
    Are you from there yourself? How are you so enlightened?


    No I've visited many times though, its an actual fact that the Irish people are the minority there, 60% of the population are middle eastern immigrants.


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  • #2227
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,767 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Gamebred wrote: »
    No I've visited many times though, its an actual fact that the Irish people are the minority there, 60% of the population are middle eastern immigrants.

    This has happened in one town only, whilst the rest of the country is mostly Irish.

    There's no need for this xenophobia.

    Have you been to Kilburn in London to see what the Irish have done?


  • #2228
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    murpho999 wrote: »
    This has happened in one town only, whilst the rest of the country is mostly Irish.

    There's no need for this xenophobia.

    Have you been to Kilburn in London to see what the Irish have done?



    Where did I say it was in every town in Ireland? I said this is stage 1 and it will get worse,

    No but I've been to Luton where its over ran with people wanting sharia law.


  • #2229
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    sjb25 wrote: »
    Military to deploy to streets of uk as terrorist alert moved to critical

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/23/theresa-may-increases-uk-terrorist-alert-critical-manchester/

    Least the UK government are trying something elese

    It wont do anything. Its just for show to keep public calm. Its probably a waste of money if anything
    If they spent money on having twice as many techy people trying to intercept possible terrorist phone calls and texts that would save a lot more lives than having military on the streets


  • #2230
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    wakka12 wrote: »
    It wont do anything. Its just for show to keep public calm. Its probably a waste of money if anything
    If they spent money on having twice as many techy people trying to intercept possible terrorist phone calls and texts that would save a lot more lives than having military on the streets


    They need to keep the economy going, if people are afraid to go out shopping ect their tax receipts suffer.


  • #2231
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,767 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Where did I say it was in every town in Ireland? I said this is stage 1 and it will get worse,

    No but I've been to Luton where its over ran with people wanting sharia law.

    You're saying stage 1 as if there is some sort of deliberate programme.

    They're isn't and you're just scare mongering.


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  • #2232
    testaccount123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭testaccount123


    murpho999 wrote: »
    You're saying stage 1 as if there is some sort of deliberate programme.

    They're isn't and you're just scare mongering.

    Do you think Muslims are accidentally moving to Europe?


  • #2233
    dav3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    Gamebred wrote: »
    No I've visited many times though, its an actual fact that the Irish people are the minority there, 60% of the population are middle eastern immigrants.

    Are you really using this terrorist attack in Manchester to push your xenophobic agenda?

    When you say "its (sic) an actually fact", I'm sure you're able to point to the latest CSO figures to back up your claim. Otherwise people are going to start thinking you've come on here just to talk s*it and make things up.

    "60% of the population are middle eastern immigrants". Don't keep us waiting.


  • #2234
    sundodger5
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭sundodger5


    Gamebred wrote: »
    No I've visited many times though, its an actual fact that the Irish people are the minority there, 60% of the population are middle eastern immigrants.

    435 who declare themselves as Muslim in Ballyhaunis on the last available census data....doubt thats 60% though.


  • #2235
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,767 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    testaccount123 wrote: »
    Do you think Muslims are accidentally moving to Europe?

    I don't believe they're all on a program to Islamify Europe which people are trying to make out here.

    Either way we all know that is never going to happen anyway.


  • #2236
    testaccount123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭testaccount123


    dav3 wrote: »
    Are you really using this terrorist attack in Manchester to push your xenophobic agenda?

    When you say "its (sic) an actually fact", I'm sure you're able to point to the latest CSO figures to back up your claim. Otherwise people are going to start thinking you've come on here just to talk s*it and make things up.

    "60% of the population are middle eastern immigrants". Don't keep us waiting.

    40% of the town are 'White Irish'

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/features/life-in-ballyhaunis-irelands-most-culturally-diverse-town-369099.html

    Dunno why Im bothering to post this, you only come on these threads to virtue signal, you arent interested in actual facts.


  • #2237
    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,680 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    Even his neigbours said he went weird the last few months, getting more hardline lookin in appearance and chanting Islamic prayers out loud on the street on his own...
    Would you call that suspicious? What would you do if a young Muslim neighbour that you chat to about football started behaving this way, is that normal mulsim behaviour? i''d say it's suspicious.
    • his own family members had reported him before
    • He grew a beard recently and started looking more ISIS-y
    • He was chanting prayers on the street loudly over the last few months
    • Regular trips to ISIS land
    • He was on a terror watch list
    • He acted suspiciously when a preacher disowned ISIS (threw him a filthy look that warranted the preacher to take measures to protect himself

    It seems you still have to wait for him to blow up a 8yo for anything to be done.

    They have Human Rights ya know. **** the 8yo kid who died. She had no rights.

    If my mother tongue is shaking the foundations of your state, it probably means you built your state on my land.

    EVENFLOW



  • #2238
    JPCN1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭JPCN1


    DrWu wrote: »
    jmayo wrote: »

    PIRA generally targeted certain people like (soldiers, politicians, security forces), sometimes not very successfully which did mean poor defenseless civilians were slaughtered.
    In the end they were more interested in causing huge financial damage to the UK and hence the likes of Manchester city centre, Canary Wharf which caused billions in damage but with deaths of two.
    Two men were killed in Canary Wharf because they didn't evacuate far enough away.

    But that's just not true. The IRA killed AND targeted civilians all the time. And the people who ordered them are in very influential positions in Irish life. Like it or not people need to dump the "our terrorists good, their terrorists bad" routine.

    Kingsmill, 11
    Warrington, 2
    Enniskillen, 11
    Red Lion, 3
    Abercorn, 2
    Claudy, 9
    Coleraine, 6
    Birmingham, 21
    Hilton Hotel, 2
    La Mon bombing, 12
    Dunmurray train, 3
    20th April (multiple locations), 2
    Harrods bombing, 3 + 3
    Victoria Station, 1
    Teebane, 7
    Baltic exchange, 3
    Bishopsgate Bomb, 1
    Docklands bomb, 2
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    Our terrorists were and are scum. Whining about a shoot to kill policy when blowing up innocent civilians....


  • #2239
    conorhal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,059 ✭✭✭conorhal


    murpho999 wrote: »
    This has happened in one town only, whilst the rest of the country is mostly Irish.

    There's no need for this xenophobia.

    Have you been to Kilburn in London to see what the Irish have done?

    You've not been to Kilburn lately have you, Irish are a tiny minority there far outnumbered by Somali's and Bangladeshi's.
    One town you say. So we write that one off then? How big does a problem have to get for you to consider it worth addressing?


  • #2240
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    testaccount123 wrote: »
    40% of the town are 'White Irish'

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/features/life-in-ballyhaunis-irelands-most-culturally-diverse-town-369099.html

    Dunno why Im bothering to post this, you only come on these threads to virtue signal, you arent interested in actual facts.


    Will somehow find a way of rubbishing the fact, a 2 minute walk through the town will tell you all you need to know, these people live on a cloud not the real world,


    I've no agenda whatsoever, I do however have a problem with lack of integration.


  • #2241
    testaccount123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭testaccount123


    murpho999 wrote: »
    I don't believe they're all on a program to Islamify Europe which people are trying to make out here.

    Either way we all know that is never going to happen anyway.

    It has already happened, there are massive Islamic areas all across Europe. They are expanding every day.

    Theres the nucleus of one springing up in Dublin 8 now too.


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  • #2242
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,767 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    testaccount123 wrote: »
    40% of the town are 'White Irish'

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/features/life-in-ballyhaunis-irelands-most-culturally-diverse-town-369099.html

    Dunno why Im bothering to post this, you only come on these threads to virtue signal, you arent interested in actual facts.

    Read the article yourself it's very positive about immigration not negative like you.
    They are integrating.

    They came here due to businesses from their homeland being in the town, like Brazilians in Gort.


    No need for your fear-mongering.


  • #2243
    kopite386
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭kopite386


    Here is a list of all 11 confirmed victims so far of the attack


  • #2244
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,767 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    testaccount123 wrote: »
    It has already happened, there are massive Islamic areas all across Europe. They are expanding every day.

    Theres the nucleus of one springing up in Dublin 8 now too.

    They are not as massive as you are making out.

    White man still very much dominant in Europe.


  • #2245
    gitzy16v
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭gitzy16v


    But but but your all racist xenophobic bigots.....
    Now stop discussing this and go back to your life.
    Ffs like Chief wiggum in the Simpson's standing in front of the exploding fireworks factory..nothing to see folks,go home.


  • #2246
    Exeggcute
    Closed Accounts Posts: 402 ✭✭Exeggcute


    murpho999 wrote: »
    You're saying stage 1 as if there is some sort of deliberate programme.

    They're isn't and you're just scare mongering.

    Read this http://www.spiegel.de/international/the-future-of-terrorism-what-al-qaida-really-wants-a-369448.html

    It was published in 2005 and lays out Al-Qaeda's plan to attack the west up to 2020.

    Everything in it has panned out.

    The stage we are just entering according to their plan is total confrontation.


  • #2247
    DrWu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 250 ✭✭DrWu


    jmayo wrote: »



    I will say if they wanted they had the capacity to slaughter thousands.

    You should email that analysis to the IRA's victims families. And a separate email to thank the Provo's for going easy on us.


  • #2248
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,654 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Of course they would.

    In this situation though, they are doing the right thing.

    And Theresa just happens to be available to announce it in Churchillian stiff upper lip fashion all over prime time media.

    Which has nothing to do with whether it is the right thing to do or not of course.


  • #2249
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Read the article yourself it's very positive about immigration not negative like you.
    They are integrating.

    They came here due to businesses from their homeland being in the town, like Brazilians in Gort.


    No need for your fear-mongering.


    Fear mongering pmsl, you're a lost cause my friend, you will come around to reality soon enough when it hits closer to home.


  • #2250
    conorhal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,059 ✭✭✭conorhal


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Read the article yourself it's very positive about immigration not negative like you.
    They are integrating.

    They came here due to businesses from their homeland being in the town, like Brazilians in Gort.


    No need for your fear-mongering.

    There are no Brazilian that I know of blowing themselves up all over Europe. And as for Ballyhaunis, you should try asking people who live there about what's really going on in the town, puff pieces in the papers never want to address the tensions that are simmering there.


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  • #2251
    ScumLord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    testaccount123 wrote: »
    It has already happened, there are massive Islamic areas all across Europe. They are expanding every day.

    Theres the nucleus of one springing up in Dublin 8 now too.
    The vast majority of those Muslims are here following the American dream. A secularist society where they can earn a fair wage and practice their religion freely. Religion has little to do with someone moving to the west, if it was they'd stay at home or move to another Muslim country. They come here for the lifestyle.


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