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this is a result of a geopolitical conflict, exactly as the troubles were. trying to paint it as religious in cause is flawed.

that's not to say islam isn't a conduit to control these young men, it clearly is, but painting islam as the problem is naive imo.

its also naive to state that these guys are blowing themselves up for the seventy two virgins etc. think what you may of them but the religious symbolism is again just a symbolic embellishment signifying the nobility of the cause, which again is geopolitical. these guys are dying for a political cause, not for afterlife tokens.

radical islam hasn't arisen from nowhere- totalitarian religious extremism doesn't do that, really. it has increased in popularity over the past several decades as a reaction to the instability and misery brought about in the gulf/ME.

make an existence miserable enough or convince a people (of any grouping) well enough that they have been the target of gross injustice that has left their ancestral/traditional/original/whatever home a wreck and caused them to become a despised minority in one of the countries responsible and you are really creating quite an ideal situation for the generation of disaffected hateful youths and increasing the likelihood of these terrorist attacks.

there are two solutions if you want to be ludicrously simplistic

1- own the full requirements of geopolitical intervention in foreign conflict

basically, acknowledge what you're up to abroad, don't even pretend to give a fcuk, kill em all over there and don't think twice about allowing refugees to escape. why give yourself the hassle? you had also better retroactively safeguard against the other dodge lads that are in europe, no point half-ar$ing it, deport them all back, families, the lot.

anyone doesn't like it, shoot em. including liberals.


2: mea culpa "we are all responsible for past horrors" white guilt approach

full open borders. allow fundamental ideology to be preached and flourish in your country. subsidise the lifestyle of insularity and cultural concentration required to incubate terrorism and individual lunatics. refrain from fully investigating links with known terrorist groups, sites, literature, figures.

even if such links, behaviours and traits become obvious, do absolutely nothing because 'human rights'. because even those who dedicate themselves to the grievous harm of the society that supports them must have the full gamut of trust, resourcing, encouragement and cuddles- to the extent of not presuming ill of them on a message board after they blow up schoolgirls attending a concert because well you know, that seems a little right wing doesn't it ~shudder~

it'll all settle down in time if we're nice to them, and hey europe had it coming. and sharia law might be ok if we all just stopped fightin against it maaaaan


theres yer two options, really.

now, here's the kicker-

thanks to the nature of global corporate independence and the short termism inherent in most western democratic systems, we're doing *both*, simultaneously

i wonder how that's going to work out