Terrorist Attack in Manchester (Read MOD WARNING in OP Updated 24/05/2017))

wonderfullife wrote: »

It's extremely unlikely.

These people want fame/infamy for attacking the powerhouses they feel are occupying forces in "their lands".

Even ISIS know if you start bombing countries like Ireland and Switzerland it will erode their cause. People expect them to attack London, New York and Paris. If they start bombing Dublin and Bern it'll be the beginning of the end for them.

Now, a homegrown radical Irish Muslim terrorist is, of course, likely at some point but they'd get the boat over and do their evil in the UK.

They are attacking the western way of life so any western country is at risk whether they have bombed the middle east or not.

Sarz91 wrote: »

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

And I really hope the people defending this nonsense aren't caught up in it and all of their family are safe in the aftermath.

Who is defending "this nonsense" as you put it? Nobody in their right mind approves of this type of act. The point some of us are trying to make is that you cannot simply just deport people based on their religion or views.

The idea that you would turn child refugees away and deport them back to a war torn country because "how would this child benefit us" or "he/she is Muslim, they're bound to blow something up" is beyond me. How do you go about dehumanising someone to that scale so that they're so inferior to you, you just don't care what happens to them?

One cannot be so sure anymore that this phrase of yourse has no meaning at all. One doesn´t know who is likely to commit such atrocities and who´s not. Fact is, that all those who comitted Terrorist attacks are of Muslim background and the worst of all who joined the Jihadists are converts to Islam, born and bred in Western countries with an utter deep contempt and hate towards the western society.
It is getting even more harder to sustain a balanced and rational view on them the more mayhem those terrorists are causing. As for talking about people in their "right mind", I would put that question up to those plotting terrorist attacks on innocent people and by doing so, discrediting the very Religion they pretend to hold so dear.

They (the terrorists) are set out to spoil the lives of others and generate hatred and sooner or later, they will earn what they sow. Just try to put yourself in the mind of those parents who lost a child in that Terrorist blast and certainly, I would not expect any understanding from those towards Muslims cos as one can see, it is getting more difficult to distinct between them and I wouldn´t exclude the chances that some Muslim children might be as well among the victims.

R.I.P. for the victims and I hope that the Police will get those who supported the Terrorist bomber. Deportation of all Muslims is by now still a bridge too far to go, but who knows whether this might not become a policy in the near future if those terrorists cannot be stopped. The whole thing is a very tricky one and I would rather suggest to deal with those terrorists the way the IRA terrorists have been dealt with which means, get them and lock them up but in contrast to the past, for Islamist terrorists there should be solitary confinement for the longest sentence they can get, ten years for least period. That of course wouldn´t prevent others to follow the Terrorist path as one can see from the history of other Terrorist organisations the grew one generation after another.

Although I hold myself being an open minded person, my inclination to look at Muslims without prejudice is getting more and more on the decline because of the Terrorist attacks and also because Islam shows more times how backwards minded and anti-freedom their representatives really are. Sure, not all of them are of that like, but the Hardliners are - I´m sorry to say - obviously in the majority and the moderates are either too few or have already shut up for fear of facing the anti-Muslim mood which is growing, in some ways even understandably. This is of course what the terrorists are after, but I think that every human being has a line on which tolerance and understanding ends in the face of terrorism and if that line is crossed, well, rational thinking on Islam certainly ends as well. The other nutters from the far-right and right-wing faction will certainly know how to use it for their own purpose, that´s what worries me as well.

The times are getting harder and even worse so in GB as we can see that despite the huge efforts by the security forces of the UK and elsewhere, the time distances between the attackes are getting even shorter. I wouldn´t be surprised if the UKIP might win more seats in the Commons in the upcoming GE on 8th June than one would expect them to get, in the wake of this incident and more so in areas who voted for Brexit in a majority. Good times for the radicals of all sorts, difficult times for the moderates. Sad times as well indeed, for I despise any sort of radicalism.

but what is the problem ? why are these young muslims prepared to blow themselves up,
it's too simplistic just to blame islam

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

No its not, the reason is just that simple.

it's not, and though you like trolling every single comment on here, i would suggest you open your mind a little.
You sound like Donald Trump