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Terrorist Attack in Manchester (Read MOD WARNING in OP Updated 24/05/2017))

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  • #422
    gitzy16v
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭gitzy16v


    jimmycrackcorm wrote: »
    Maybe death and injuries from crowd crush?

    Wake up man


  • #423
    Kablamo!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Kablamo!


    We'll find out what happened soon enough. No point speculating as of yet.
    There's 19 houses with empty beds in them tonight, and 19 families who will never again have their loved one walk through the door.
    The emergency services and everyone offering aid and assistance are to be commended. True heroes- that's what humanity is all about.


  • #424
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    domrush wrote: »
    Right so there was a warning to avoid causalities. And this happened 25 years ago. From a group no longer active.

    I did say that this wasnt the ira. Did you miss that?


  • #425
    retro:electro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    It's time for us to wake the fcuk up. This is just blood boiling.


  • #426
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Rekop dog wrote: »
    Hopefully the nailbomb suggestions aren't true. That has IRA written all over it.
    US media saying US Intelligence have been briefed by the Brits that it was a suicide bomber.


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  • #427
    Cantona's Collars
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    https://twitter.com/Pebbles_MIA/status/866808369654489089

    Absolute panic in the venue,Such brave cnuts targeting kids.:(


  • #428
    huddlejonny
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭huddlejonny


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    Suicide bomber.

    Stop guessing. People are dead.


  • #429
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Sky reporting it went off outside the arena in a public place, so they didnt pass security.


    It seems like the exit doors were opened and the person went into the arena. Very easy thing to do, if there are stewards there you can just say I lost my phone etc. Doubt they are bothered about a backpack or whatever they carried it in.

    There were 2 explosions according to witnesses. This seems similar to the Paris Attack. One person went up to the gate of the stadium, let off bomb, tried to create a stampede for the next bomber. With the Paris stadium attack it just failed as the guy didnt get to the stadium and the other guy bottled it.


  • #430
    bilston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,006 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    jimmycrackcorm wrote: »
    Maybe death and injuries from crowd crush?

    Could be a combination of that and a bomb.


  • #431
    Lady Spangles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Lady Spangles


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    At what point does it have to get to, to realise that letting in all these people has been the most idiotic thing Europe has ever done. It's not working, and it will never work. Multiculturalism is self destructive when people don't want to integrate. Western values just aren't compatible.

    The 7/7 Bombers were all British. The guys who killed Lee Rigby were British. The guys responsible for the Paris attacks were French (at least some were, can't speak for all of them).

    So what's your point? The people fleeing ISIS (ie those one's we're "letting in") are the people who're fleeing war and ISIS destruction of their homelands. They're trying to get away from war none of us in the West can imagine. But hey! Don't let the facts get in the way of your prejudice.


    In the meantime, RIP to all the victims of the Manchester Arena tragedy. Whatever the cause, it's a horrific incident. Upwards of 20 young people will not be coming home from a concert tonight and the pain of the families is unimaginable.


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  • #432
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,355 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    What are you suggesting.

    Think it's fairly clear from what I said and from the post I was replying to. If this was the work of a radical Islamic terrorist, then the fact that it's so close to a UK election has got to be a factor.

    So again, are you really suggesting this was a Russian terrorist?


  • #433
    Free-2-Flow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Free-2-Flow


    Deleted User wrote:
    US media saying US Intelligence have been briefed by the Brits that it was a suicide bomber.


    But outside the Arena, not inside


  • #434
    KKkitty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭KKkitty


    I'm sorry if my previous comments seemed crass. I'm just at a loss why anyone would target anywhere where people just want to have fun and enjoy themselves. The amount of people who would have been there at the gig and in the nearby areas is in the thousands. Again I'm sorry for any offence caused by my previous comments. I'm just filled with anger at the moment.


  • #435
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    At what point does it have to get to, to realise that letting in all these people has been the most idiotic thing Europe has ever done. It's not working, and it will never work. Multiculturalism is self destructive when people don't want to integrate. Western values just aren't compatible.

    Spare us your far-right-wing white culture nonsense tonight yeah?

    If this was an Islamic Terrorist there's a fair chance he was born in the UK not "let in from elsewhere".

    Just shut it. You'll have lots of time for this nonsense tomorrow.


  • #436
    homerjay2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    Guy on Fox who was at the concert said there was no security checks

    thats irrelevent. it didnt take place at the concert. it took place after the concert and outside.


  • #437
    Somedude9
    Closed Accounts Posts: 469 ✭✭Somedude9


    super_furry wrote: »
    I'd consider the timing this close to the UK elections too. Much more likely to push people towards the right-wing which will like you say, will lead toward the very moderate Islam communities becoming more and more marginalised.

    Indeed.


  • #438
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    KKkitty wrote: »
    I'm sorry if my previous comments seemed crass. I'm just at a loss why anyone would target anywhere where people just want to have fun and enjoy themselves. The amount of people who would have been there at the gig and in the nearby areas is in the thousands. Again I'm sorry for any offence caused by my previous comments. I'm just filled with anger at the moment.

    The bataclan concerts. Nice sea front.

    Its what isis do.


  • #439
    GT_TDI_150
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,917 ✭✭✭✭GT_TDI_150


    zerks wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/Pebbles_MIA/status/866808369654489089

    Absolute panic in the venue,Such brave cnuts targeting kids.:(

    Must be me but put the phone in ur poket and run... stop trying to film...


  • #440
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    super_furry wrote: »
    Think it's fairly clear from what I said and from the post I was replying to. If this was the work of a radical Islamic terrorist, then the fact that it's so close to a UK election has got to be a factor.

    So again, are you really suggesting this was a Russian terrorist?

    Obviously not, I just found what you wrote incredibly strange.


  • #441
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,531 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    ricero wrote: »
    Zero tolerance policy from police from now on. Even something as minor like sharing a jihad post on facebook or posting something on twitter should result in arrest or deportation. Also feel that muslim communities are not doing enough to combat extremism and teach their youth how to integrate into european societies


    a Zero tolerance policy all ready exists. something as minor like sharing a jihad post on facebook or posting something on twitter all ready results in arrest or deportation.
    it doesn't work however.

    muslim communities are doing what they can to combat extremism and teach their youth how to integrate into european societies but there is only so much they can do, the law has to step up to the plate as well (and to be fair it mostly does but people can slip through the net)

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



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  • #442
    Bret Hart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,790 ✭✭✭Bret Hart


    https://mobile.twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/866790014717497345

    A (unt and a disgusting piece of ****.


  • #443
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,355 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    Obviously not, I just found what you wrote incredibly strange.

    You're not? So why bring up Russia?

    I find that incredibly strange.


  • #444
    RayM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    Deleted User wrote: »
    if you have accused someone who does think that it is very likely to have been an islamic terrorist attack of wishing for it to be so, or taking glee in it, you are in fact an awful person. you should never receive a hi 5 again.

    I'm sorry if this makes me an awful person in your eyes, but it appears very much to me that this poster...
    Hank Scorpio wrote:
    At what point does it have to get to, to realise that letting in all these people has been the most idiotic thing Europe has ever done. It's not working, and it will never work. Multiculturalism is self destructive when people don't want to integrate. Western values just aren't compatible.

    ...will be very disappointed if it turns out that the perpetrator is not a Muslim.


  • #445
    Trond
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭Trond


    Happened in a public area outside the arena as per the stadium


  • #446
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,188 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    A lot of one post wonders about.


  • #447
    Dontfadeaway
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 906 ✭✭✭Dontfadeaway


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    It seems like the exit doors were opened and the person went into the arena. Very easy thing to do, if there are stewards there you can just say I lost my phone etc. Doubt they are bothered about a backpack or whatever they carried it in.

    I think anyone can walk in, once in you walk to a different part for security check.


  • #448
    222233
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭222233


    I wonder how long it will be until they can tell for sure what happened ?


  • #449
    Thepoet85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭Thepoet85


    domrush wrote:
    Right so there was a warning to avoid causalities. And this happened 25 years ago. From a group no longer active.


    And did they warn people to avoid a&e through twitter 25 years ago. Get a grip.
    This is a tragedy, and not a time for finger pointing until we know who is behind it.


  • #450
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    super_furry wrote: »
    You're not? So why bring up Russia?

    I find that incredibly strange.

    It was a joke because of people blaming Russia for previous terror attacks in the lead up to elections, what you wrote sounded like some thinly veiled excuse to me.

    If it wasn't, apologies.


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  • #451
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
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    Arghus wrote: »
    Question: since 9/11 who has been responsible for more deaths in the United States, right-wing extremists or Islamic terrorists?
    There's no place for Islamic extremists in civilised society. It's about time people stopped bending over backwards to accommodate those who show nothing but contempt for society, be they "natives" or immigrants. I know it's a small minority but it's significant enough. They're the first group to get up in arms about their rights not being met etc and it's seen as unpc to say anything at all negative. That needs to stop. They need to conform to the society they live in or go somewhere they feel more comfortable.


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