Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

wonderfullife · 22-05-2017 02:11AM

Gamebred wrote: »

PMSL you're going on like the ref stopped him and he continued to land the elbow, was totally legal, did you see Bisping after he beat Rockhold rubbing it in?

What? Hendo literally admitted in his post-fight interview in the Octagon that he knew Bisping was unconscious.

Whether it was legal or not is irrelevant. He knew the man was out cold and pile-drived an elbow on to him. It remains one of the scummiest things ever seen in the Octagon.

Bisping said "Fck you" to Rockhold. There's a big difference between verbals and deliberately hurting an unconscious opponent.

Depp · 22-05-2017 02:17AM

wonderfullife wrote: »

What? Hendo literally admitted in his post-fight interview in the Octagon that he knew Bisping was unconscious.

Whether it was legal or not is irrelevant. He knew the man was out cold and pile-drived an elbow on to him. It remains one of the scummiest things ever seen in the Octagon.

Bisping said "Fck you" to Rockhold. There's a big difference between verbals and deliberately hurting an unconscious opponent.

this exactly, hendo continues to brag about doing it going as far as to make it his bloody company logo, long way between this and a few words.

22-05-2017 02:29AM

Tazzimus wrote: »

By that logic most of the current champions should probably be stripped as well...

Emmm no?

Joanna just defended,
Nunes has a fight booked,
DJ just defended,
Cody had a fight booked but pulled out due to injury,
Aldo has fight booked for next month,
Woodley defended in March and is defending again soon,
Bisping *should be stripped or forced to defend against Romero* but he has defended at least once,
Cormier defended recently,
Stipe just defended.

Literally every other champion has either defended or is booked to defend :pac:
so my logic does in fact, make sense

Conor won in December fair enough! But this Mac v May fight isn't going to happen for a while and then he will want time off before he defends (if he defends). I would understand Conor not having fought yet but if he isn't booking a fight then he should be stripped.

A champ not defending because of injury is one thing but taking time off for pregancies and fighting in a different sport.... should be stripped.

Gamebred · 22-05-2017 02:29AM

Was a fair strike guys needed to make sure he wasnt getting up, had he done the same at 204 he'd of retired champ instead he missed and nearly broke the canvas with one.

wonderfullife · 22-05-2017 02:33AM

Gamebred wrote: »

Was a fair strike guys needed to make sure he wasnt getting up, had he done the same at 204 he'd of retired champ instead he missed and nearly broke the canvas with one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh9l58GUZNc

"I knew I hit him out, I did that to shut him up a little bit".

You're trying to tell us black is white here.

He knew he was completely unconscious, he didn't "need to make sure" of anything.

Gamebred · 22-05-2017 02:46AM

Only on the wind up wonder relax, one of my favourite ko's have a signed picture of it framed in my house, shame he couldnt get the win in the rematch

Gamebred · 22-05-2017 02:58AM

https://twitter.com/UFCrelated/status/866470337667637249

Mellor · 22-05-2017 06:47AM

Gamebred wrote: »

PMSL you're going on like the ref stopped him and he continued to land the elbow, was totally legal, did you see Bisping after he beat Rockhold rubbing it in?

He knew Bisping was out and decided to drop the H-Bomb anyway. Comparing that with rubbing it in is bizarre.

Deleted User wrote: »

Emmm no?

Literally every other champion has either defended or is booked to defend :pac:
so my logic does in fact, make sense

You are saying that he should have been stripped for not defending, or booking a defense in 6 months.

Nunes currently 5 months. Nothing officially booked yet.
Cody 7 months to fight date, which is is probably going to pull out of.
Aldo's fight will be 11 months after his last fight.
Bisping 7 months, nothing booked.
Cormier defended after an 18 month gap
Stipe 8 months to his last defense.

Maybe we give Cody a break, and Nunes if she books something soon.
But by your logic, Aldo should have been stripped months ago along with Bisping and maybe DC.
Stipe was cutting it fine depend on when he booked it.

The fact is. 6 months is an entirely normal time between fights for the champ. 12 months is not uncommon

Mellor · 22-05-2017 07:03AM

Gamebred wrote: »

Only on the wind up...

Meh should have guessed.

(FYI the delayed post was because I stopped to make lunch. FYI it was delicious)

red ears · 22-05-2017 07:59AM

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

at least he defended a belt. And he probably hand picked the 48 year old for when he decided to hendobomb his face off when he was alreaDY OUT

Hendo is a scumbag

The Ayatolla · 22-05-2017 09:05AM

When will people understand the belts themselves now mean very little in the broader scheme of things? The same people calling him to be stripped will be saying that Khabib/Ferguson and Aldo/Holloway are carrying fake belts.

Strip McGregor all you want, it matters little. He won't lose any sleep. As the man himself says, he holds "the McGregor belt" which is more important than any leather / nickel / gold paint at this stage.

Tazzimus · 22-05-2017 11:19AM

Mellor wrote: »

He knew Bisping was out and decided to drop the H-Bomb anyway. Comparing that with rubbing it in is bizarre.

You are saying that he should have been stripped for not defending, or booking a defense in 6 months.

Nunes currently 5 months. Nothing officially booked yet.
Cody 7 months to fight date, which is is probably going to pull out of.
Aldo's fight will be 11 months after his last fight.
Bisping 7 months, nothing booked.
Cormier defended after an 18 month gap
Stipe 8 months to his last defense.

Maybe we give Cody a break, and Nunes if she books something soon.
But by your logic, Aldo should have been stripped months ago along with Bisping and maybe DC.
Stipe was cutting it fine depend on when he booked it.

The fact is. 6 months is an entirely normal time between fights for the champ. 12 months is not uncommon

Saved me having to type that out, top work

Lukker- · 22-05-2017 12:22PM

Canelo/Chavez did over 1m, AJ/Joshua did 1.5m and had 10m viewers in Germany and Canelo/GGG will do well over 1m in September.

Conor is moving to boxing at the right time.

Meanwhile a UFC event hasn't broken 300k this year.

JohnMc1 · 22-05-2017 12:39PM

Mellor wrote: »

I've no idea how Dan Henderson pulled off one if the scummiest moves in the octagon. And Bisping is the bad guy there.

The only things remotely similar were Daley after the bell and Palhares holding subs. Both of those guys are considered scumbags.

You don't stop fighting until the ref tells you too. Dan gets a pass because he's more often than not a class act. Trying to compare him to Daley and Palhares is ridiculous.

Mellor · 22-05-2017 02:40PM

JohnMc1 wrote: »

You don't stop fighting until the ref tells you too. Dan gets a pass because he's more often than not a class act. Trying to compare him to Daley and Palhares is ridiculous.

The whole dont stop until the ref stops it is in reference to protecting yourself at all times and not assuming the ref seen the tap.
It doesn't give someone carte blanche to beat the shit[/url] out of a non-defending opponent.

Dan got a pass because he was a much loved legend from Pride and Bisping was (at that point) mostly disliked. That's the only reason imo.
If Dan had of said he got caught up moment, or that he threw the second shot on instinct, or even if he said he was just making sure. I'd have given him a pass too.
But the fact is he said he knew he was out, and threw it on purposes. Intentions matter imo.
I'm not saying he's the worst human ever, I'm just pointing out that he got away with stuff others wouldn't.

Like the way he also gets a pass for steroids/TRT. He admits being on the sauce since from Pride all the way to his fight with Shogun. So he was "assisted" for Rampage, Silva, Bisping, Fedor etc. All his big UFCfights.

Lukker- · 22-05-2017 02:45PM

Mellor wrote: »

The whole dont stop until the ref stops it is in reference to protecting yourself at all times and not assuming the ref seen the tap.
It doesn't give someone carte blanche to beat the shit[/url] out of a non-defending opponent.

Dan got a pass because he was a much loved legend from Pride and Bisping was (at that point) mostly disliked. That's the only reason imo.
If Dan had of said he got caught up moment, or that he threw the second shot on instinct, or even if he said he was just making sure. I'd have given him a pass too.
But the fact is he said he knew he was out, and threw it on purposes. Intentions matter imo.
I'm not saying he's the worst human ever, I'm just pointing out that he got away with stuff others wouldn't.

Like the way he also gets a pass for steroids/TRT. He admits being on the sauce since from Pride all the way to his fight with Shogun. So he was "assisted" for Rampage, Silva, Bisping, Fedor etc. All his big UFCfights.

I think hitting an unconscious opponent when you know they are out is the scummiest thing you can do in MMA, and is worse than holding a sub after a tap. Joints/bones will heal, head trauma is a different kettle of fish.

I say that as someone who somewhat likes Hendo, but there is no defense for what he did.

JohnMc1 · 22-05-2017 02:49PM

Mellor wrote: »

The whole dont stop until the ref stops it is in reference to protecting yourself at all times and not assuming the ref seen the tap.
It doesn't give someone carte blanche to beat the shit[/url] out of a non-defending opponent.

One extra punch is hardly beating the **** out of a non-defending opponent. Dial down the rhetoric.

EagererBeaver · 22-05-2017 03:03PM

JohnMc1 wrote: »

One extra punch is hardly beating the **** out of a non-defending opponent. Dial down the rhetoric.

Bit of an idiotic comment there. I don't really disagree with your general angle on this, but "one punch" (or in this case a flying elbow) always has the potential to be the last shot a fighter takes.

Dave0301 · 22-05-2017 03:06PM

JohnMc1 wrote: »

One extra punch is hardly beating the **** out of a non-defending opponent. Dial down the rhetoric.

Tell that to the families of people that have died from one punch traumas.

Striking an elbow/forearm to an opponent you later admit to having known to be unconscious is a scummy thing to do.

Depp · 22-05-2017 03:07PM

Dave0301 wrote: »

Tell that to the families of people that have died from one punch traumas.

Applying an elbow/forearm to an opponent you later admit to having known to be unconscious is a scummy thing to do.

especially when its a diving elbow with the full force of your 200 odd pound bodyweight

Mellor · 22-05-2017 03:16PM

JohnMc1 wrote: »

One extra punch is hardly beating the **** out of a non-defending opponent. Dial down the rhetoric.

That was about the whole "until the ref stopped it" thing in general, not Hendo specifically. It's largely a flawed concept imo.
Example this was posted last week. He's obviously right to stop there.

As above, I don't dislike Hendo. When I seen it live I didn't think anything of it. But I lost a bit of respect for him when he admitted that that it was intentional.

Depp · 22-05-2017 03:26PM

Mellor wrote: »

As above, I don't dislike Hendo. When I seen it live I didn't think anything of it. But I lost a bit of respect for him when he admitted that that it was intentional.

This exactly, not even admitting to it but bragging about it is the real problem, making it his company logo then was in extremely bad taste

wonderfullife · 22-05-2017 04:11PM

lol

https://twitter.com/mma_gifs_/status/730934023837626368/video/1

The Ayatolla · 22-05-2017 04:41PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

lol

https://twitter.com/mma_gifs_/status/730934023837626368/video/1

It would NEVER turn out like that.

First of all, it should be at Wrestlemania, not Summerslam.

paulieeye · 22-05-2017 06:11PM

personally I think this is one of scummiest things you can do in MMA and easily as bad as holding a sub. You are rattling around someones brain for no reason without but i suppose its ok cus he's an all american hero and palhares is a dirty foreigner.

Now maybe you can argue that he's caught up in the moment but that bisping one is fckin scary.

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Call Me Jimmy · 22-05-2017 07:48PM

It's just a ****ty thing to do

hewhoscares · 22-05-2017 09:05PM

Lukker- wrote: »

Canelo/Chavez did over 1m, AJ/Joshua did 1.5m and had 10m viewers in Germany and Canelo/GGG will do well over 1m in September.

Conor is moving to boxing at the right time.

Meanwhile a UFC event hasn't broken 300k this year.

Boxing is having a good year. But thats massaging the numbers somewhat. Why didn't you mention the pish numbers GGG, KovWard, Crawford Postol and Valdez recent PPVs
Both sports are star led for PPV draws. The UFC have had 4 proper PPV draws and none of them are active right now for one reason or another.
McGregor gets back active in MMA again. Canelo fights a couple more undersized Brits. AJ takes a year hiatus and we're back to boxing being dead.

wonderfullife · 22-05-2017 09:34PM

Just my 2 cents but it wouldn't hurt the UFC to try get a new PPV deal next time they re-negotiate it - specifically to include dynamic pricing for their PPV's.

Charging $60 for McGregor v Alvarez at MSG with a great undercard.
Charging $60 for Holm v de Randamie and a muck undercard.

I don't know if it would ultimately work in their favour but off the top of my head it feels like a good idea to lower the price of the weaker PPV's. It might not change much financially but it would almost certainly result in more eyeballs on the event that night and far more publicity for the fighters in action.

darced · 22-05-2017 10:20PM

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Lukker- · 22-05-2017 10:36PM

hewhoscares wrote: »

Boxing is having a good year. But thats massaging the numbers somewhat. Why didn't you mention the pish numbers GGG, KovWard, Crawford Postol and Valdez recent PPVs
Both sports are star led for PPV draws. The UFC have had 4 proper PPV draws and none of them are active right now for one reason or another.
McGregor gets back active in MMA again. Canelo fights a couple more undersized Brits. AJ takes a year hiatus and we're back to boxing being dead.

Absolutely, but I think it highlights that MMA particularly the UFC won't carry on that popularity once Conor is gone.

Serious lack of stars at the minute and they don't really seem to be able to build people anymore.

AJ and Canelo are the biggest draws at the minute and neither are going anywhere soon. Chavez was a washed up bum and it did over 1m buys.

AJ being champ also makes the heavyweight division sexy for the first time in a long time, and if he ever fights Fury it'll be the biggest British fight of all time.

Puts Conor in an excellent spot IMO, he can essentially ask for what he wants once his contract is up.

Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

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