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Eir rural FTTH thread

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  • #5672
    Ron603
    Closed Accounts Posts: 75 ✭✭Ron603


    My installation is scheduled for next Tuesday morning. I hope that there won't be any problems.....


  • #5673
    Blogin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭Blogin


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Possibly the 4040, that's a lovely wee router.

    Fritzbox 7360 is mentioned on their web site (no 5ghz WiFi).


  • #5674
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Blogin wrote: »
    Fritzbox 7360 is mentioned on their web site (no 5ghz WiFi).

    That's a DSL router. It's possible to configure it for FTTH, but I would have thought it would make more sense to provide a router without a DSL modem in it.


  • #5675
    oleras
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭oleras


    Jpmarn wrote: »
    Are you sure that it is fibre cable or is just piping to accommodate fibre cables going through underground ducts?

    Manholes were open and they were pushing through the yellow trace wire.didnt see any fiber cable rolls though, so not sure. Seemed to be 3 /4 crews working on a 200m stretch.


  • #5676
    random.stranger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭random.stranger


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    That's a DSL router. It's possible to configure it for FTTH, but I would have thought it would make more sense to provide a router without a DSL modem in it.

    Was thinking the same, 5490 would make more sense?
    https://en.avm.de/products/fritzbox/

    I can get over the e200 connection charge. If only Digiweb didn't have the same 1TB limit as eir.


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  • #5677
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    random.stranger wrote: »
    Was thinking the same, 5490 would make more sense?
    https://en.avm.de/products/fritzbox/

    Overkill. It has an SFP interface, but eir's (and SIRO's) FTTH products are presented to the customer on copper. The 4040 is an ideal balance of gigabit Ethernet, dual-band WiFi and no extraneous interfaces like DSL or SFP.


  • #5678
    Jpmarn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    oleras wrote: »
    Manholes were open and they were pushing through the yellow trace wire.didnt see any fiber cable rolls though, so not sure. Seemed to be 3 /4 crews working on a 200m stretch.

    They have been doing similar work around the Inch St Lawernce Limerick exchange area since before St Patrick's Day. This area covers the Caherconlish, Ballyneety, Ballybricken, Boher and parts of the Ballysimon areas. They have yet to wire up fibre on overhead poles. They may have laid cables in the underground ducts but I haven't seen any of yet. Oleres Do you live in Patrickswell? If so keep us updated on the progress here in this thread.


  • #5679
    Jpmarn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    My sister lives near me and she is on a yellow line expecting the rollout of ftth in the next month or so. Eir has sent her a new D1000 router as an update to her present dsl broadband service from them. Is it worth while unboxing this router and installing it to replace the router she got in 2009? We are in the Inch St Lawernce Limerick exchange area see previous post by me above. It is down for Spring/ summer 17 with some gutting work done.


  • #5680
    9726_9726
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 440 ✭✭9726_9726


    long_b wrote: »
    I've got the same setup but with 2 wireless routers (one is n, one is ac) . Getting <50 Mb down on my SU6 in the same room as either router. Would be expecting 100 down


    EDIT We used 21.25 GB yesterday. Vast majority of which was speedtests

    I swear, networks would be faster if not for all the speedtests being run!

    I watched an operator sniff traffic on a core router last year and there was a few hundred meg from speedtest.net *all the time*. He said it was taking up a good bit of bandwidth on an aggregation link.

    I think when fibre becomes normal, speedtests will go away.


  • #5681
    yammagamma
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭yammagamma


    Jpmarn wrote: »
    They have been doing similar work around the Inch St Lawernce Limerick exchange area since before St Patrick's Day. This area covers the Caherconlish, Ballyneety, Ballybricken, Boher and parts of the Ballysimon areas. They have yet to wire up fibre on overhead poles. They may have laid cables in the underground ducts but I haven't seen any of yet. Oleres Do you live in Patrickswell? If so keep us updated on the progress here in this thread.
    my address is caherconlish but we got connected to pallasgreen/cloverfield exchange and we went live on the 3rd for deffo all fiber cables up on poles for a few weeks splitter boxes followed soon, parts underground.


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  • #5682
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    speedtests will probably be always be around for the likes of mobile/wireless internet, but with fibre becoming mainstream, they will eventually be run much less after the excitement of having a really fast fibre connection dies down with everyone.

    a month into my FTTH and I'm still doing speedtests because their fun!.


  • #5683
    yammagamma
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭yammagamma


    re digiweb ill know monday or tuesday what router as there sending it out by fastway courier even to my work address,, pity about eir and insisting i get a phoneline to get ftth,, pure telecom insisted this as well last night when i rang them after i cancelled with eir. i was looking forward to eirs sports pack,,, as i dug out the diablocams and got my old skycard working on the built in satellite tuner of my pana 50dx802b she has triple tuner dual s2 and single t2/c , i was watching eirsports 1 other night on it some soccer match it was freeview/fta unencrypted for the match


  • #5684
    yammagamma
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭yammagamma


    Ninkel wrote: »
    Do Eir use the same fibre cable when stringing overhead to house or feeding through duct ?

    not sure but kn/difussion guy told me when he was wiring up a splitter box it will be smaller cable then is going from pole to pole as i was worried about feeding it throught my existing duct/hydropipe.. he even stripped the fiber cable showing me i think it was 32 individual fiber strands/cable was it 4x8 or 8x4 or something like that


  • #5685
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    9726_9726 wrote: »
    I swear, networks would be faster if not for all the speedtests being run!

    I watched an operator sniff traffic on a core router last year and there was a few hundred meg from speedtest.net *all the time*. He said it was taking up a good bit of bandwidth on an aggregation link.

    I think when fibre becomes normal, speedtests will go away.

    Its a bit of a catch 22 really.

    Fast network, speedtest once then get on with it.
    Slow network, speedtest regularly due to interruptions, make interruptions worse, thus more likely to test.


  • #5686
    jeff lebowski
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭jeff lebowski


    Does anyone know if there is a way to appeal to Eir, or get talking to someone there, with regard to the route they have for FTTH?

    I live in a development of 14 houses along a main road. We are a few 100 metres too far from the exchange get their FTTC offer. Our estate is about 1km outside a village and 3km outside a town, between both. On their map the FTTH line is coming towards us, then turns right up into a back road and continues up that way, up into the hills, serving 27 houses. If they continue it straight on (along a main road so surely easier to lay?) they will serve 48 directly along the road and about 150 more if they turn left and continue on the same road the same distance they are going up into the hills.

    There does not appear to be any logic to that.

    To make it even more frustrating, their "core fibre network" cable on the map runs through a field 230metres from my house.

    Does anyone here know if there is a way to appeal or get them to consider extending where they lay the fibre, by way of explaining things, making a case or even getting residents to contribute to any cost?

    Thanks.


  • #5687
    Jpmarn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    There are plenty of Splice boxes up in the Crossagalla exchange area particularly passing Drombanna village on the Limerick to Kilmallock road. I wouldn't be too surprised if there is live connections already there. There is still some wiring up still to do there. Nothing has happened in Inch St Lawernce. It is a while since Eir's rollout map has been updated.
    Going to Clarina Exchange area when it first went live back in February there was a distinct lack of Fibre cables and splice boxes up. Drove out there more recently the rollout there should be almost complete.


  • #5688
    Jpmarn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    jeff lebowski wrote: »
    Does anyone know if there is a way to appeal to Eir, or get talking to someone there, with regard to the route they have for FTTH?

    I live in a development of 14 houses along a main road. We are a few 100 metres too far from the exchange get their FTTC offer. Our estate is about 1km outside a village and 3km outside a town, between both. On their map the FTTH line is coming towards us, then turns right up into a back road and continues up that way, up into the hills, serving 27 houses. If they continue it straight on (along a main road so surely easier to lay?) they will serve 48 directly along the road and about 150 more if they turn left and continue on the same road the same distance they are going up into the hills.

    There does not appear to be any logic to that.

    Does anyone here know if there is a way to appeal or get them to consider extending where they lay the fibre, by way of explaining things, making a case or even getting residents to contribute to any cost?

    Thanks.
    The whole rollout to the first 300k houses is a lottery at the moment. There is a Cul de Sac branching of my country road with about 20 houses but only 2 or 3 will be passed for ftth when it happens in the next month. There are dozens of houses down my road going towards Limerick City served be the Castletroy exchange waiting for the government to connect them. There are 6 national schools connected to the Inch St Lawernce exchange but 2 of them will probably be waiting for the government's NRB.


  • #5689
    rob808
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭rob808


    jeff lebowski wrote: »
    Does anyone know if there is a way to appeal to Eir, or get talking to someone there, with regard to the route they have for FTTH?

    I live in a development of 14 houses along a main road. We are a few 100 metres too far from the exchange get their FTTC offer. Our estate is about 1km outside a village and 3km outside a town, between both. On their map the FTTH line is coming towards us, then turns right up into a back road and continues up that way, up into the hills, serving 27 houses. If they continue it straight on (along a main road so surely easier to lay?) they will serve 48 directly along the road and about 150 more if they turn left and continue on the same road the same distance they are going up into the hills.

    There does not appear to be any logic to that.

    To make it even more frustrating, their "core fibre network" cable on the map runs through a field 230metres from my house.

    Does anyone here know if there is a way to appeal or get them to consider extending where they lay the fibre, by way of explaining things, making a case or even getting residents to contribute to any cost?

    Thanks.
    They won't because of NBP plus they only have agreement for 300,000 house.The NBP should start late 2018 given there no more delays.


  • #5690
    More Music
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 878 ✭✭✭More Music


    yammagamma wrote: »
    .......has anyone on here got just FTTH installed, ie 1 fiber cable and no copper line and they dont have a active phoneline...i have less hair then homer dealing with eir....

    I'm getting the same package. No phone line in my house either. No copper coming in here at all.

    €55 p/m for 150Mbps FTTH including eir Sports. 18 month contract.

    Installation on Tuesday. Looking at it, the nearest pole is out on the road. I reckon my my house is just a bit too far to sling it directly. Also, my house is down a slope from the road making the gable too low I think.

    So on Tuesday I'm expecting to be told a pole will need to be installed closer to my house.

    Assume that will delay things a bit. Anybody know what happens in this scenario?


  • #5691
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    More Music wrote: »
    Installation on Tuesday. Looking at it, the nearest pole is out on the road. I reckon my my house is just a bit too far to sling it directly. Also, my house is down a slope from the road making the gable too low I think.

    So on Tuesday I'm expecting to be told a pole will need to be installed closer to my house.

    Assume that will delay things a bit. Anybody know what happens in this scenario?

    This is a post from Decoda who required a new pole before FTTH could be installed - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=103122745#post103122745


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  • #5692
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    yammagamma wrote: »
    not sure but kn/difussion guy told me when he was wiring up a splitter box it will be smaller cable then is going from pole to pole as i was worried about feeding it throught my existing duct/hydropipe.. he even stripped the fiber cable showing me i think it was 32 individual fiber strands/cable was it 4x8 or 8x4 or something like that

    According to an eir presentation last year, they chose a cascaded two stage splitter architecture, each fibre will have 1:32 split comprising a primary 1:8 split and a secondary 1:4 split for rural FTTH.

    Rural_FTTH_split.jpg


  • #5693
    tkmullingar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 ✭tkmullingar


    Sorry to re post , but does anyone have some info for me .Got this message on the finer lookup "We expect fibre broadband to be available to you by the second half of 2017" any idea if this means by the end of June or by the end of the second half of the year .


  • #5694
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    tkmullingar wrote: »
    Sorry to re post , but does anyone have some info for me .Got this message on the finer lookup "We expect fibre broadband to be available to you by the second half of 2017" any idea if this means by the end of June or by the end of the second half of the year .

    Second half of the Year, Jul - Dec 2017


  • #5695
    iioklo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭iioklo


    The Cush wrote: »
    According to an eir presentation last year, they chose a cascaded two stage splitter architecture, each fibre will have 1:32 split comprising a primary 1:8 split and a secondary 1:4 split for rural FTTH.

    Rural_FTTH_split.jpg

    So are those Black Splitter Box's on the poles secondary splitters and can they only do 4 homes each from each box.

    Where are the primary splitter's located at junction points where the fiber goes off in a different direction.

    I've drawn diagram of how i interpret the pole to pole network is layed out, is this correct or are the fibers arranged a different way.


  • #5696
    Blogin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭Blogin


    tkmullingar wrote: »
    Sorry to re post , but does anyone have some info for me .Got this message on the finer lookup "We expect fibre broadband to be available to you by the second half of 2017" any idea if this means by the end of June or by the end of the second half of the year .

    Could be as late as march 2018. Once an area goes live it does not all go live at the same time. My area is live and no visible work on this part yet.


  • #5697
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    iioklo wrote: »
    So are those Black Splitter Box's on the poles secondary splitters and can they only do 4 homes each from each box.

    Where are the primary splitter's located at junction points where the fiber goes off in a different direction.

    I've drawn diagram of how i interpret the pole to pole network is layed out, is this correct or are the fibers arranged a different way.

    Only someone close to the rollout/planning would be able to answer that with any accuracy.

    Speculating here, a primary 1:8 splitter is located within 200m/4 poles of a cluster of rural houses to serve up to 8 present/future FTTH connections, secondary 1:4 splitter(s) are deployed off the primary splitter where more than 8 FTTH connections are required up to a maximum of 32 per fibre strand or are beyond 200m from the primary splitter or redundancy for future builds/connections.


  • #5698
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    iioklo wrote: »
    I've drawn diagram of how i interpret the pole to pole network is layed out, is this correct or are the fibers arranged a different way.

    If you're not correct, you're close to.


    The GPON network will follow POTS a lot, its built on the same infrastructure. DPs have 3-8 homes but usually 5 or less (8 only happens in a cul de sac of small houses). So expect to see splitters on or nearby DPs every few premises.


  • #5699
    long_b
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,982 ✭✭✭long_b


    long_b wrote: »
    Seeing some weirdness on my Smart Ultra 6.

    Using my existing network setup I've just replaced the 4G/WFi TP Link router with the F2000.

    I'm not using with F2000 wifi - I connect to one of two wifi routers which are then wired into the F2000 via a couple of hubs.

    I'm seeing occasional but sizeable delays on page loads on, say, boards.ie even though the ping from my phone to the site is fine (<10 Ms)

    Really is making it feel like a slower connection than with my previous setup.

    Has anyone else found this? Should I be looking at changing DNS or something?

    Changing DNS to Opendns didn't help


  • #5700
    Chieftain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭Chieftain


    tkmullingar wrote: »
    Sorry to re post , but does anyone have some info for me .Got this message on the finer lookup "We expect fibre broadband to be available to you by the second half of 2017" any idea if this means by the end of June or by the end of the second half of the year .


    you'd think by the wording that it would be by the end of June. Mine says the same but I wouldn't be too confident of it being done by then


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  • #5701
    damienirel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭damienirel


    Jpmarn wrote: »
    The whole rollout to the first 300k houses is a lottery at the moment. There is a Cul de Sac branching of my country road with about 20 houses but only 2 or 3 will be passed for ftth when it happens in the next month. There are dozens of houses down my road going towards Limerick City served be the Castletroy exchange waiting for the government to connect them. There are 6 national schools connected to the Inch St Lawernce exchange but 2 of them will probably be waiting for the government's NRB.

    The Castletroy exchange isn't due to go live 'till winter 2018 for ftth - according to the map. It seems a bit mad when there is a high density of houses in that exchange area - you'd imagine it would be one of the areas they would tackle first - to meet the 300k deadline. But as you said the map hasn't been updated in ages. Clarina was supposed to be live ages ago but the map says only 80 houses passed - so I'd expect that there will be a lot more on the next map update after what you've seen.

    I was driving through the Curragh area at the weekend and I can see why it was one of the areas they did first - no fences or trees to contend with, fairly handy access to the poles. Looks like the Curragh is well covered from what I could see and lots of houses look to be connected also. I'd expect a big speed up in the rollout with the dry weather too.


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