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What do you think is equal sex?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 24 MikeenRonanJr


    Me and the missus have a very healthy sex life, where generally we both orgasm during sex (be it penetration or oral). The motion that neither her nor me happened to not reach climax is somehow tantamount to "Abusive sex" is complete and utter rubbish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭arayess


    givyjoe wrote: »
    This poster has a particular knack for it in their posts.

    this Op has serious issues with men, on the basis of her postings, that isn't healthy.
    suppose at least she is consistent


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭arayess


    jonnycivic wrote: »
    Abusive - No, Selfish - Yes.

    i disagree on a once off basis on the assumption that one's sex life (or a person) can't be judged on a singular event.

    if it happens regularly then yeah for sure he is selfish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,357 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    if they were also pressuring or coercing the partner into doing things they weren't comfortable with just to suit them then maybe it's abusive. Otherwise, no just extremely selfish and it's akin to viewing a person as a sex toy and not very attractive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    Nope it's not abusive sex. If I orgasm and he doesn't get off, does that mean I'm abusing him sexually?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭cantdecide


    iDave wrote: »
    Which SJW came up with this?

    You know that victimmy one who wouldn't take responsibility for their own shortcomings...


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    Is sex, where the man orgasms, and doesn´t attempt to make the woman orgasm: Abusive sex?

    Id be more inclined to call it rape, mainly because if the woman doesn't orgasm she is fully entitled to take back her consent thus making it rape


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,333 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Not a big fan of equal sex.

    = one lies on top of the other whilst trying to keep both bodies as straight as possible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    PARlance wrote: »
    Not a big fan of equal sex.

    = one lies on top of the other whilst trying to keep both bodies as straight as possible.

    Tantric baby


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,031 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Is sex, where the man orgasms, and doesn´t attempt to make the woman orgasm: Abusive sex?
    Depends. Is the idea to have sex with the same person more than once? :rolleyes:

    Besides - as long as women get muliple orgasms, but men only get the one, sex will never be equal.

    Death has this much to be said for it:
    You don’t have to get out of bed for it.
    Wherever you happen to be
    They bring it to you—free.

    — Kingsley Amis



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    In just about any interaction women are always victims and it's always men's fault. That seems to sum up the OP's angle. Abusive. Jesus. I think I strained my optic nerve by eye rolling so hard.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,700 ✭✭✭Mountainsandh


    Is sex, where the man orgasms, and doesn´t attempt to make the woman orgasm: Abusive sex?

    I think if you find yourself in that situation in more than one instance, you really need to learn to communicate OP, rather than label any frustration as "abuse".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,353 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Is sex, where the man orgasms, and doesn´t attempt to make the woman orgasm: Abusive sex?
    Abusive punctuation at best.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    If a woman ****s another woman and only one of them orgasms, is that abuse?

    Or is that question irrelevant in the context of the on going, boring as **** gender war?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Of course it's abuse op #equality.
    I think you need to report your man.
    Maybe Prime Time could do a special on this?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭infogiver


    Is sex, where the man orgasms, and doesn´t attempt to make the woman orgasm: Abusive sex?

    This is what happens when you spend too long in Louise O'Neills echo chamber of a twitter page.
    He came, you didn't, and now your wondering if you have a case to go to Women's Aid.
    Please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Glenster wrote: »
    Your orgasm is your responsibility.
    +1

    No one can "give" you an orgasm, it's 99% of your own making.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭infogiver


    Me and the missus have a very healthy sex life, where generally we both orgasm during sex (be it penetration or oral). The motion that neither her nor me happened to not reach climax is somehow tantamount to "Abusive sex" is complete and utter rubbish.

    If your a 4th wave feminist it's just more evidence that the patriarchy is only after getting fierce worser then it was


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    I suppose if you were to take pride in your failure to please your partner, and constantly taunted them about the lack of pleasure they experience during sex with you, then maybe it could be construed as abusive. You know, running around the bedroom shouting "1-0! 1-0!" and then saying "Sorry... come again?" when they tell you to grow up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    It's definitely abuse. I would compare it to manslaughter at best.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭fatknacker


    Wasn't there a politician who said its not rape if the woman comes? So perhaps by his definition...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭infogiver


    Inconsiderate. Not abusive.

    I'm interested to know how you define 'equal sex' though.

    I think in the LON world it's where there was a long discussion before laying down at all re consent.
    There's non of your bit of fooling around suddenly getting out of hand and culminating in a nice tasty quickie with these gals.
    No siree bob.
    I mean a girl can jump on her man and straddle him while he watching the CL penalty shootout if she wants, but he gets the horn watching the ladies final at Wimbledon " new balls please. 15 love" he has to broach the subject of love making in a sensitive non demanding manner devoid of bribes or guilt tripping.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭infogiver


    anna080 wrote: »
    Of course it's abuse op #equality.
    I think you need to report your man.
    Maybe Prime Time could do a special on this?

    Or Joe Duffy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Beyondgone


    Thought this was going to be about varying hands to stop one arm becoming overly muscular.

    Am now confused.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,031 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    No one can "give" you an orgasm, it's 99% of your own making.

    1ohwsf.jpg

    Death has this much to be said for it:
    You don’t have to get out of bed for it.
    Wherever you happen to be
    They bring it to you—free.

    — Kingsley Amis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,305 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Is sex, where the man orgasms, and doesn´t attempt to make the woman orgasm: Abusive sex?
    So... you think the women giving head to the man is abusive to the woman?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭Fanny Wank


    Is sex, where the man orgasms, and doesn´t attempt to make the woman orgasm: Abusive sex?

    Nah, just a fanny ****


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    fatknacker wrote: »
    Wasn't there a politician who said its not rape if the woman comes? So perhaps by his definition...

    There was one who said it's not rape if she gets pregnant, because the body has a way of shutting down pregnancy if it's real rape. Only not-real rape results in pregnancy.

    That was Republican Todd Akin on 'legitimate rape'. I think he wanted women to prove they were legit raped by not being pregnant if they wanted an abortion, which kind of made it just an interesting day out at the clinic instead of a medical procedure.

    There was probably one about orgasms too but it's hard to keep up with these guys and their insane ramblings.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    Well this thread was an anti climax.

    OP is in and out as quick as her sex life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,498 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    brevity wrote: »
    What do you think OP? Could you give an reasoning why you think it might be abusive?

    Just have a look through her posting history and wonder no more. All men are selfish lovers, misogynist and generally horrible people. It's literally all she posts about and quite tiresome.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    fullstop wrote: »
    Just have a look through her posting history and wonder no more. All men are selfish lovers, misogynist and generally horrible people. It's literally all she posts about and quite tiresome.

    Ya. She usually just spouts the same random crap and then disappears and doesn't contribute to the discussion at all whatsoever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    I feel bad for men if that's the kind of insanity they're dealing with when taking some women out on what they think is a normal date. Thankfully the likes of the OPs mindset is few and far between


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,498 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    anna080 wrote: »
    Ya. She usually just spouts the same random crap and then disappears and doesn't contribute to the discussion at all whatsoever.

    Yep, it usually goes;
    - rant
    - proven wrong
    - meltdown
    - disappear

    Rinse and repeat


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 945 ✭✭✭red ears


    Imagine that for pressure.. you better make me orgasm or this will be considered abuse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    I don't think the op should stop until she has justice on this issue. #justiceformidlandsmissus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭cantdecide


    fullstop wrote: »
    Yep, it usually goes;
    - rant
    - proven wrong
    - meltdown
    - disappear

    Rinse and repeat

    Not brave enough to rage-quit, though.

    In my day we had the courage of our convictions enough to rage-quit when we started a ridiculous thread and had out behinds handed to us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,190 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    JayZeus wrote: »
    No. It's a race with one prize. Not everyone gets a finishers medal.

    What else do you expect someone to answer to that? Seriously. No.

    The notions and bitterness are strong with this one.

    Ah, come on. It's like Athletics. There are two races: one for men and one for women. Always make sure the women finish first!


    "G'wan, honey, you can manage another lap..." :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 788 ✭✭✭Sound Bite


    Do you not get bored of posting the same thing OP?

    We get it, you hate men & think they are to blame for everything.

    You can't just lie there like a log & think you are owed an orgasm! Yes it's selfish but abusive? Come on, you're having a laugh now.

    The fact there isn't an "Orgasm Abuse" helpline or support group should be a clue!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Sound Bite wrote: »
    Do you not get bored of posting the same thing OP?

    We get it, you hate men & think they are too blame for everything.

    You can't just lie there like a log & think you are owed an orgasm! Yes it's selfish but abusive? Come on, you're having a laugh now.

    The fact there isn't an "Orgasm Abuse" helpline or support group should be a clue!

    I think the op needs to set one up. #brave


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  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I agree with absolutely nothing the OP has said, but all this reiteration of the same points and berating her when she's not on thread engaging or defending herself is starting to look a lot like ganging up and bullying.

    We don't know her story and the points have been made repeatedly, that's should be enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    Candie wrote: »
    I agree with absolutely nothing the OP has said, but all this reiteration of the same points and berating her when she's not on thread engaging or defending herself is starting to look a lot like ganging up and bullying.

    We don't know her story and the points have been made repeatedly, that's should be enough.

    There is no such thing as bullying on an anonymous Internet forum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Candie wrote: »
    I agree with absolutely nothing the OP has said, but all this reiteration of the same points and berating her when she's not on thread engaging or defending herself is starting to look a lot like ganging up and bullying.

    We don't know her story and the points have been made repeatedly, that's should be enough.

    Normally I would agree but this poster has form for this, Candie. She does this kind of thing time and time again. Stirs the pot and f's off. Best to just take what she says with a pinch of salt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    anna080 wrote: »
    Normally I would agree but this poster has form for this, Candie. She does this kind of thing time and time again. Stirs the pot and f's off. Best to just take what she says with a pinch of salt.

    Agree. I've said it before to her that it's next to impossible to have a discussion with her as she flies in, drops off a hysterical, man hating and frankly bizarre statement and leaves without backing it up or discussing it.

    If that was a male doing that regarding females he'd probably be banned. The OP added nothing to this discussion - not even in the opening post, just drops the bait and flies off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    Candie wrote: »
    I agree with absolutely nothing the OP has said, but all this reiteration of the same points and berating her when she's not on thread engaging or defending herself is starting to look a lot like ganging up and bullying.

    We don't know her story and the points have been made repeatedly, that's should be enough.

    Bullying Candie? Really?

    The same points are being laboured as there has been no interaction or additional info by the OP.

    Ridicule is the standard response to a sh1t stiring, one comment thread like this one as there is limited discussion to be had.

    This is far from bullying, far far from it.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,561 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    There is no such thing as bullying on an anonymous Internet forum.

    Yes, there is.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    Candie wrote: »
    I agree with absolutely nothing the OP has said, but all this reiteration of the same points and berating her when she's not on thread engaging or defending herself is starting to look a lot like ganging up and bullying.

    We don't know her story and the points have been made repeatedly, that's should be enough.


    Usually I'd agree with your posts, but in this instance I understand why people are lashing out against it.

    The poster has form for misandry and insulting men on the basis of them simply being men.


    If it were a male poster with such a massive grudge against women, he'd be long gone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    Yes, there is.

    Nah. We're not real people here just made up names on a website.

    If anyone gets upset by something someone says to there made up name then they're a complete idiot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,869 ✭✭✭SeanW


    Is sex, where the man orgasms, and doesn?t attempt to make the woman orgasm: Abusive sex?
    Interesting question. Actually not, seems more like Orwell's Animal Farm/1984 where words mean what we want them to mean instead of having objective meanings.

    So to flip it around, suppose the woman orgasms and then tells the man to stop before he is finished - is that abusive too?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭infogiver


    Nah. We're not real people here just made up names on a website.

    If anyone gets upset by something someone says to there made up name then they're a complete idiot.

    If your being bullied on your Facebook page or your twitter account then that's a different thing.
    But if you can't stand the heat on an anonymous chat room then delete your account and move on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong


    Candie wrote: »
    I agree with absolutely nothing the OP has said, but all this reiteration of the same points and berating her when she's not on thread engaging or defending herself is starting to look a lot like ganging up and bullying.

    We don't know her story and the points have been made repeatedly, that's should be enough.

    Her story has nothing to do with it. She posts anti male crap consistently and disappears without contributing to any discussion. It is right that she be called on it.


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