Guards entering bus - greeted with angry passengers

Berserker · 18-04-2017 4:26pm

Stars and Stripes wrote: »

Could be worse, like the sad clowns who go around pestering people for money to buy a poppy for weeks on end. Even a few clowns in Ireland believe in wearing one for some family reject who fecked off to England and joined their military.

Those "rejects" had to leave because your wonderful nation couldn't feed, clothe or house them amongst other reasons.

seachto7 · 18-04-2017 4:35pm

Stars and Stripes wrote: »

Could be worse, like the sad clowns who go around pestering people for money to buy a poppy for weeks on end. Even a few clowns in Ireland believe in wearing one for some family reject who fecked off to England and joined their military.

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Bit of a low blow there eh? How do you know their motives? Most probably went for work.

mynamejeff · 18-04-2017 4:38pm

JAsas theres some good old fashioned classical shinnerbot troll on this thread

lads claiming personal experience of regular dealings with special branch. if true theres a good reason why they were looking at you . more likely the closest to special branch they ever got was hiding in the bushes with a few cans.

realistically a couple of former or active terrorists were identified as they were about to leave the country. wouldnt be unusual for some of them to have warrants or to still be involved in criminality at a older age. i know one near 70 year old republican doing 3 months for frauds right now ,

i suppose the irony of a crowd of idiots travelling from dublin to another country to commemorate something that happened in dublin is lost on most ?

Turner · 18-04-2017 5:05pm

Alot of the people on the bus are commenting on facebook of the video on the liberal facebook site.

Its gas, just google their second names and tallaght and you get an idea of what they and their families are involved with.

Nice to see they are getting their kids started early by involving them in something like this.

Stars and Stripes · 18-04-2017 5:06pm

Berserker wrote: »

Those "rejects" had to leave because your wonderful nation couldn't feed, clothe or house them amongst other reasons.

Our nation was barely 20 years old and still trying to drag itself out of the mess your 'wonderful' nation left it in and parasited off for centuries. The RoI was peacefully neutral while in England they were been bombed to bits, rationing, evacuations etc Only misfits and rejects went to England and joined it's forces.

Your Face · 18-04-2017 5:08pm

No harm, keeping an eye on them.

Samuel T. Cogley · 18-04-2017 5:09pm

CoolHandBandit wrote: »

Why, what's wrong with Tallaght?

Lack of a sense of houmour amongst some of it's residents

Stars and Stripes · 18-04-2017 5:10pm

mynamejeff wrote: »

JAsas theres some good old fashioned classical shinnerbot troll on this thread

lads claiming personal experience of regular dealings with special branch. if true theres a good reason why they were looking at you . more likely the closest to special branch they ever got was hiding in the bushes with a few cans.

realistically a couple of former or active terrorists were identified as they were about to leave the country. wouldnt be unusual for some of them to have warrants or to still be involved in criminality at a older age. i know one near 70 year old republican doing 3 months for frauds right now ,

i suppose the irony of a crowd of idiots travelling from dublin to another country to commemorate something that happened in dublin is lost on most ?

" good old fashioned classical shinnerbot troll" good description of your own post. What next maybe will you post, pity the Guards didn't 'bait the shyte out of them ?

Cienciano · 18-04-2017 5:15pm

Discodog wrote: »

Really ? Arrested for what ? There is no way that the Guards would do the same with a coach load of muslims going to Mosque. I find it amazing that after all the years of negative Garda stories that people still assume that the people they target are always in the wrong. It's like the old no smoke without fire.

I have a strong dislike of the Republican movement but my standards of public service mean that I don't say the Guards are fine because they are questioning Republicans. I used to wonder how the Gardai were allowed to get away with so much. It's because citizens allow it.

If the Guards have to rely on asking people for ID, which there is no legal requirement to carry, as their method of monitoring possible terrorists then heaven help us.

Considering you have no idea what information the gardaÃ had, that's a fairly stupid post.

seachto7 · 18-04-2017 5:21pm

Stars and Stripes wrote: »

Our nation was barely 20 years old and still trying to drag itself out of the mess your 'wonderful' nation left it in and parasited off for centuries. The RoI was peacefully neutral while in England they were been bombed to bits, rationing, evacuations etc Only misfits and rejects went to England and joined it's forces.

How do you know? Where's your evidence? What about people as of late who joined the British army? No misfits or rejects in the 'RA then no?

Stars and Stripes · 18-04-2017 5:29pm

Turner wrote: »

Alot of the people on the bus are commenting on facebook of the video on the liberal facebook site.

Its gas, just google their second names and tallaght and you get an idea of what they and their families are involved with.

Nice to see they are getting their kids started early by involving them in something like this.

Could be worse, their kids could be joining Fianna Gael or Fine Fail !! " Now don't forget what daddy and mammy always said, the 'party' has always been good to the family so join them, then do as your asked, forget about all the corruption, cronyism etc and ye'll get a nice wee cosy job in the civil service or a semi state one day."

Turner · 18-04-2017 5:48pm

Stars and Stripes wrote: »

job in the civil service or a semi state one day."

Yes, and actually contribute to society. Instead of concentrating on "Jobstown not guilty" or whatever rent a mob needs support

circadian · 18-04-2017 5:51pm

If they're heading to Derry for Easter parades with dissident groups then I'm not surprised they were stopped by Special Branch. I can't imagine they are any more modest about their leanings/apparent position within some obscure Wannabe group as some of the eejits I see in certain pubs in Derry.

Discodog · 18-04-2017 5:51pm

Cienciano wrote: »

Considering you have no idea what information the gardaÃ had, that's a fairly stupid post.

How ? What information could necessitate stopping a bus & asking for ID ? Did they arrest people ?

cursai · 18-04-2017 5:53pm

Hope the bus broke down in Derry.

Stars and Stripes · 18-04-2017 5:55pm

Turner wrote: »

Yes, and actually contribute to society. Instead of concentrating on "Jobstown not guilty" or whatever rent a mob needs support

And " forget about all the corruption, cronyism ", it's no wonder our we gombeen state is the epitome of corruption.

circadian · 18-04-2017 5:58pm

cursai wrote: »

Hope the bus broke down in Derry.

I'd rather it didn't, we have enough head the gratin's as it is.

cursai · 18-04-2017 6:03pm

Stars and Stripes wrote: »

And " forget about all the corruption, cronyism ", it's no wonder our we gombeen state is the epitome of corruption.

In comparison to other countries, anyone who has any experience of living abroad. This is a great little country with LITTLE corruption. We have a more open system than lots of tranparency.

Statements that are almost comparing us to a banana republic or to North Korea or flipping Indonesia are ridiculous and reek of naivety.

Most of us really don't know how good we have it.

Corruption in the police force???? Sloppy paperwork more like or its more like the Gardai were cheating on the leaving cert. Other ACTUAL corrupt police forces and government are laughing at us and calling us amateurs at
corruption.

OK deep breath.....

Stars and Stripes · 18-04-2017 6:23pm

cursai wrote: »

In comparison to other countries, anyone who has any experience of living abroad. This is a great little country with LITTLE corruption. We have a more open system than lots of tranparency.

Statements that are almost comparing us to a banana republic or to North Korea or flipping Indonesia are ridiculous and reek of naivety.

Most of us really don't know how good we have it.

Corruption in the police force???? Sloppy paperwork more like or its more like the Gardai were cheating on the leaving cert. Other ACTUAL corrupt police forces and government are laughing at us and calling us amateurs at
corruption.

OK deep breath.....

So you must perceive that your benefiting from the corruption in some way to claim it doesn't exist. Haughey, Ahern, Lalor, Burke, Lowry, Denis O'Brien, Fingers Fingleton, Seanie Fitzpatrick etc not to worry, nothing to see here, move along, it only lead to the bankruptcy of the country.

mynamejeff · 18-04-2017 6:29pm

Stars and Stripes wrote: »

" good old fashioned classical shinnerbot troll" good description of your own post. What next maybe will you post, pity the Guards didn't 'bait the shyte out of them ?

how do you figuire ?
what of you mean by that post ?

or is that a standard response from the handbook lol

:)

mynamejeff · 18-04-2017 6:31pm

Discodog wrote: »

How ? What information could necessitate stopping a bus & asking for ID ? Did they arrest people ?

how about that a wanted criminal was on a bus about to leave the country ?

wouldnt that make it a good idea to stop the bus and check who is on it ?

ohnonotgmail · 18-04-2017 6:32pm

Stars and Stripes wrote: »

So you must perceive that your benefiting from the corruption in some way to claim it doesn't exist. Haughey, Ahern, Lalor, Burke, Lowry, Denis O'Brien, Fingers Fingleton, Seanie Fitzpatrick etc not to worry, nothing to see here, move along, it only lead to the bankruptcy of the country.

the poster never claimed it didnt exist.

return guide · 18-04-2017 6:34pm

Stars and Stripes wrote: »

Our nation was barely 20 years old and still trying to drag itself out of the mess your 'wonderful' nation left it in and parasited off for centuries. The RoI was peacefully neutral while in England they were been bombed to bits, rationing, evacuations etc Only misfits and rejects went to England and joined it's forces.

Ok, I will bite on this one...

You should really get your facts right.

The Republic of Ireland (RoI) did not exist during the second world war. It was officially declared a republic in 1949, following the Republic of Ireland Act 1948.

It is well known that Ireland, although officially neutral in ww2, was sympathetic to the allies by returning downed airmen across the border and allowing flights over Donegal from Derry amongst other acts.

C Montgomery Gurns II · 18-04-2017 6:35pm

Noveight wrote: »

The best example I've seen yet. Abuse of power, no less :rolleyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf2sgtUNlOE

"I'm entitled to a lot of things but I don't get them in this country".

Well we seem to have given our Scottish pal a council flat, how many more entitlements are we withholding from him?

C Montgomery Gurns II · 18-04-2017 6:40pm

Don't Chute! wrote: »

"This is what you learn about in school Saorse, ....... Saorse"! .

I knew this reminded me of something

http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2014/04/20/gerry-adams-denies-knowledge-of-disappeared-easter-eggs/

Noddyholder · 18-04-2017 6:41pm

C Montgomery Gurns II wrote: »

"I'm entitled to a lot of things but I don't get them in this country".

Well we seem to have given our Scottish pal a council flat, how many more entitlements are we withholding from him?

How you know he doesn't own it after working for years in Scotland but was born in Ireland ??

cursai · 18-04-2017 6:45pm

Stars and Stripes wrote: »

So you must perceive that your benefiting from the corruption in some way to claim it doesn't exist. Haughey, Ahern, Lalor, Burke, Lowry, Denis O'Brien, Fingers Fingleton, Seanie Fitzpatrick etc not to worry, nothing to see here, move along, it only lead to the bankruptcy of the country.

You know nothing Jon Snow.

Stars and Stripes · 18-04-2017 6:46pm

return guide wrote: »

Ok, I will bite on this one...

You should really get your facts right.

The Republic of Ireland (RoI) did not exist during the second world war. It was officially declared a republic in 1949, following the Republic of Ireland Act 1948.

It is well known that Ireland, although officially neutral in ww2, was sympathetic to the allies by returning downed airmen across the border and allowing flights over Donegal from Derry amongst other acts.

True enough the RoI was still called the Free State, so did you have many reject relations serving in the Brit forces ?

Noddyholder · 18-04-2017 6:48pm

mynamejeff wrote: »

JAsas theres some good old fashioned classical shinnerbot troll on this thread

lads claiming personal experience of regular dealings with special branch. if true theres a good reason why they were looking at you . more likely the closest to special branch they ever got was hiding in the bushes with a few cans.

realistically a couple of former or active terrorists were identified as they were about to leave the country. wouldnt be unusual for some of them to have warrants or to still be involved in criminality at a older age. i know one near 70 year old republican doing 3 months for frauds right now ,

i suppose the irony of a crowd of idiots travelling from dublin to another country to commemorate something that happened in dublin is lost on most ?

Your reading to many comics ,

Its quite common for Republicans to be stop n searched with the only reason needed them being republicans.

Maybe you should read some History books about why people from here would travel up to the six counties.

I know a 85 year old former garda who hates with a passion fianna fail people, its a strange world init.

Stars and Stripes · 18-04-2017 6:50pm

cursai wrote: »

You know nothing Jon Snow.

Your soooo witty ....

Stars and Stripes · 18-04-2017 6:52pm

Noddyholder wrote: »

Your reading to many comics ,

Its quite common for Republicans to be stop n searched with the only reason needed them being republicans.

Maybe you should read some History books about why people from here would travel up to the six counties.

I know a 85 year old former garda who hates with a passion fianna fail people, its a strange world init.

Nothing strange about hating Fine Failers, it's actually quite common.

C Montgomery Gurns II · 18-04-2017 7:02pm

Noddyholder wrote: »

How you know he doesn't own it after working for years in Scotland but was born in Ireland ??

Well for a start I'm fairly sure it has always been impossible to buy a DCC flat off the corpo (seeing if they want to toss the block a few years later you could hold them to ransom for a pay out)

mynamejeff · 18-04-2017 7:10pm

Noddyholder wrote: »

Your reading to many comics ,

Its quite common for Republicans to be stop n searched with the only reason needed them being republicans.

Maybe you should read some History books about why people from here would travel up to the six counties.

I know a 85 year old former garda who hates with a passion fianna fail people, its a strange world init.

its quite common for people with convictions for serious offences to be stopped and checked too

do you think that someone who had been convicted of murder and released under the GFA would be still of interest to the organisations that are working for the security of the state ?
after all a lot of these idiots think there is a war still going on ......

it would seem i know my history a little better than you do noddy

Discodog · 18-04-2017 7:12pm

19th most corrupt country, we were 17th

The discussion ignores the action of the Guards & focuses on it being justified because of the suspects.

That's what police states say

Noddyholder · 18-04-2017 7:18pm

mynamejeff wrote: »

its quite common for people with convictions for serious offences to be stopped and checked too

do you think that someone who had been convicted of murder and released under the GFA would be still of interest to the organisations that are working for the security of the state ?
after all a lot of these idiots think there is a war still going on ......

it would seem i know my history a little better than you do noddy

Of course jeff, The garda stop buses regurly enough and ask everybody on board there name & address , stop messing.

Yes I do think they would be of intrest, I never said they shouldn't have been stopped & futher back in the thread I did state that if your involved its to be expected.

Know jeff you don't.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 18-04-2017 7:57pm

Stars and Stripes wrote: »

Could be worse, like the sad clowns who go around pestering people for money to buy a poppy for weeks on end. Even a few clowns in Ireland believe in wearing one for some family reject who fecked off to England and joined their military.

A strange user name choice considering you post such comments.

Going by this thread, justice is what we want, but it must not inconvenience us.

Berserker · 18-04-2017 9:35pm

Noddyholder wrote: »

Of course jeff, The garda stop buses regurly enough and ask everybody on board there name & address , stop messing.

Of course they don't. They vast majority of people aren't terrorists or supporters of terrorist organisations, so they're never going to be stopped by the police. If the guards come across people who have links to these organisations, they'll stop them. Given the destination of that bus and the fact that it was Easter weekend, i'm confident that the police had good reason to stop that vehicle. They can stop these people and make their lives as difficult as possible, as far as I am concerned.

cursai · 19-04-2017 2:18pm

God bless the Gardai and God bless the work.

mynamejeff · 19-04-2017 2:24pm

Noddyholder wrote: »

Of course jeff, The garda stop buses regurly enough and ask everybody on board there name & address , stop messing.

Yes I do think they would be of intrest, I never said they shouldn't have been stopped & futher back in the thread I did state that if your involved its to be expected.

Know jeff you don't.

but if you look noddy you ll see that i said nothing like that did i ?

you just made something up .

just like the people on the bus being offended by the police rightly paying them attention. its just a shame they were horrible enough to bring their kids along to involve them in their archaic and dying cult

C Montgomery Gurns II · 19-04-2017 2:47pm

The dissidents and those that back them really a shower of utter gob****es let's be honest. The Real IRA are in existence 20 years and anywhere between 150 and 300 strong, and have managed to kill a total of five members of the security forces in their "war".

I'm not criticising the lack of kill rate, more their point of existance. Five of their specified targets vs the dozens of others killed in Omagh, drug wars and internal disputes. People like Rose Lynch and the guy who was killed in the Kinahan feud are still honoured online as POW's and fallen volunteers (a fallen RIRA drug dealer who let his mother take the harge, who died in a Dublin drug war. Jesus wept). Imagine getting a bus up from Dublin to hang out with these tools.

cursai · 21-04-2017 7:45am

http://saoradh.ie/garda-harassment-of-saoradh-backfires-spectacularly-saoradh-nuacht/

Heroes of the 32

Guards entering bus - greeted with angry passengers

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