100 gay men detained in 'concentration camps' in Chechnya — read first post

oneilla wrote: »

As part of your right wing political position do you hate Muslims and homosexuals or just one of them?

Yawn.

I never said, nor implied either of those things. But to answer your hysteria, I hate all religions and feel sorry for people who believe in it. You'll love this too, my best friend is gay!

I would hate to be LGBT living in a muslim country, I mean concentration camps, ffs :mad:

It's crazy that this is being allowed to happen. Chechnya is part of the Russian Federation and clearly Putin's establishment attitudes to gay rights are playing a role in this as the state has done little to crack down on it and has allowed and encouraged a toxic atmosphere to develop where it is possible.

The way LGBT people are abused, beaten and even killed in some of these hellholes is just sickening and frankly, no state is standing up for them strongly enough.

it really pisses me off that as societies we are all being slimey, mealy-mouthed, craven and willing to turn a blind eye and to do business with countries where gay people are regularly killed and tortured with full state sanction. We also continue to trade with countries where women are routinely severely oppressed.

If an ethnic group or a religious group was getting this kind of abuse that the LGBT community gets, the EU and the US would be calls to apply trade sanctions but, when it comes to murdering gay people it's all just hand wringing because there's a big conservative, homophobic monster still sitting on western governments' shoulders too. They're more gay-friendly in many cases than actually willing to defend gay rights.

It's about time people shrugged off the homophobia, grew a pair and actually stood up for their gay brothers, sisters, cousins and fellow humans.

Either we support gay rights or we don't. There are certain things you have to be unequivocally about and this is one of them.

There's too much wishy-washy lack of doing anything about this.

You're in Ireland, we may not individually have that much power as citizens of a very small country, but but we have freedom of speech and a political system that is responsive and we are members of a global economic superpower (the EU) :

start emailing some TDs and MEPs and demanding something be done! All it takes is a few lines on an email to at least put this on someone's agenda and start making these governments wake up a bit.

Start posting on social media - use what democratic power you have to kick up at least some kind of a fuss about this.

It's sad that this can go on without causing much of a fuss at all, whereas a guy gets dragged off a plane by an airline behaving abysmally and mishandling overbooking and we have the social media pitch forks out and we're all off on a boycott.

It just shows where our priorities are..

Noveight wrote: »

I've always felt lucky to be living in Ireland but all the dark, twisted international news recently has me thinking that this little island is an absolute gem.

You are correct and lets make sure we keep it that way. Its wholly up to ourselves. Sweden, Germany, France and other places on the continent finding their tolerance levels being tested at the moment by an influx of people with a different way of thinking.

Yer man Kadyrov is a bit of a mentaller.