100 gay men detained in 'concentration camps' in Chechnya — read first post

snowflaker

Ireland wasn't so different 35 years ago in regards viewing the worthlessness of life of a gay man

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declan_Flynn

We much speak out against the horrors in Chechnya - it has no place in civilised society.

It doesn't give us a carte blanche to ignore the plight of refugees either, some only seem concerned for rights of others to mask xenophobia and racism.

Help!!!!

There were some people on another thread trying to make out that Chechnya is run by Russia so its not Muslims that are doing it.

Help!!!!

snowflaker wrote: »

Ireland wasn't so different 35 years ago in regards viewing the worthlessness of life of a gay man

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declan_Flynn

We much speak out against the horrors in Chechnya - it has no place in civilised society.

It doesn't give us a carte blanche to ignore the plight of refugees either, some only seem concerned for rights of others to mask xenophobia and racism.

It would cost a lot less & be beneficial to a lot more refugees if they stay in the Middle East or Africa. There are so many countries that are not at war

snowflaker

neverever1 wrote: »

Do they only capture the gay men when there's proof that they're gay? I'm sure there's less flamboyant behaviour from the gays over there to avoid suspicion.

maybe if she wasn't wearing such a short skirt she wouldn't have aroused him...

nobody is "asking for it"

snowflaker

Help!!!! wrote: »

It would cost a lot less & be beneficial to a lot more refugees if they stay in the Middle East or Africa. There are so many countries that are not at war

Cost a lot less for whom??? Have we no responsibility or basic human nature to help our fellow man?


We're only citizens of the West through accident of birth

neverever1

snowflaker wrote: »

maybe if she wasn't wearing such a short skirt she wouldn't have aroused him...

nobody is "asking for it"

What has that got to do with my post?

Help!!!!

snowflaker wrote: »

Cost a lot less for whom??? Have we no responsibility or basic human nature to help our fellow man?


We're only citizens of the West through accident of birth

We would be helping our fellow man, closer to their own countries
So how many should we take in??

JupiterKid

This is just sick and sad. Chechnya using gay men as scapegoats and Putin playing a cynical game of politics over the situation.

snowflaker

neverever1 wrote: »

What has that got to do with my post?

I'm sure there's less flamboyant behaviour from the gays over there to avoid suspicion.

neverever1

snowflaker wrote: »

I'm sure there's less flamboyant behaviour from the gays over there to avoid suspicion.

Yeah? I'm sure there is. Don't you think so? How is that victim blaming?

ceadaoin.

neverever1 wrote: »

What has that got to do with my post?

And what does this topic have to with refugees?

snowflaker

neverever1 wrote: »

Yeah? I'm sure there is. Don't you think so? How is that victim blaming?

If you can't see why, I won't waste my time trying to explain it to you.

neverever1

ceadaoin. wrote: »

And what does this topic have to with refugees?

It all seems very strange doesn't it?

neverever1

snowflaker wrote: »

If you can't see why, I won't waste my time trying to explain it to you.

You won't explain it to me because you can't!

wakka12

neverever1 wrote: »

Do they only capture the gay men when there's proof that they're gay? I'm sure there's less flamboyant behaviour from the gays over there to avoid suspicion.

Members of the lgbt community are bribed to give names of other gay people they know, families are also advised to give away names of gay family members or murder them themselves

snowflaker

neverever1 wrote: »

You won't explain it to me because you can't!

I explained it with the analogy tbf

neverever1

wakka12 wrote: »

Members of the lgbt community are bribed to give names of other gay people they know, families are also advised to give away names of gay family members or murder them themselves

But would the gay people giving the names of other gay people not be revealing themselves? They take a bit of money but it won't be worth much to them when they're dead.

neverever1

snowflaker wrote: »

I explained it with the analogy tbf

You didn't. You clearly misunderstood what I said, you realise that now but you don't want to admit it. I'm embarrassed for you.

Help!!!!

Why is it that members of the LGBTQ would rather protest Trump, with their pink pussy hats & burka's etc but do nothing about " gay concentration camps in Chechnya "? Oh right Trump is the big bad boogey man

wakka12

neverever1 wrote: »

But would the gay people giving the names of other gay people not be revealing themselves? They take a bit of money but it won't be worth much to them when they're dead.

Maybe they gave immunity to some gay people if they rewarded them with lots and lots of names of other gay people, for instance. I don't know, all I heard on the news was that members of the lgbt community were bribed to give names of other gay men they knew

snowflaker

Help!!!! wrote: »

Why is it that members of the LGBTQ would rather protest Trump, with their pink pussy hats & burka's etc but do nothing about " gay concentration camps in Chechnya "? Oh right Trump is the big bad boogey man

We are.

wakka12

Help!!!! wrote: »

Why is it that members of the LGBTQ would rather protest Trump, with their pink pussy hats & burka's etc but do nothing about " gay concentration camps in Chechnya "? Oh right Trump is the big bad boogey man

This really annoys me too! Fair enough if you live in America,maybe, but I see so many rants on Facebook all the time from people in ireland about Trump, when theres so many more genuinely evil leaders all over the world, it just makes it seem so petty

Help!!!!

snowflaker wrote: »

We are.

You are what?

neverever1

wakka12 wrote: »

Maybe they gave immunity to some gay people if they rewarded them with lots and lots of names of other gay people, for instance. I don't know, all I heard on the news was that members of the lgbt community were bribed to give names of other gay men they knew

Signing their own death warrants if you ask me.

snowflaker

Help!!!! wrote: »

You are what?

Protesting about Chechnya

snowflaker

neverever1 wrote: »

Signing their own death warrants if you ask me.

Prisoner's dilemma

Help!!!!

wakka12 wrote: »

This really annoys me too! Fair enough if you live in America,maybe, but I see so many rants on Facebook all the time from people in ireland about Trump, when theres so many more genuinely evil leaders all over the world, it just makes it seem so petty

Whats worse is that Trump is pro LGBTQ & they took the whole " grab the pussy " thing out of context

Help!!!!

snowflaker wrote: »

Protesting about Chechnya

When? Where?

wakka12

neverever1 wrote: »

Signing their own death warrants if you ask me.

Or maybe its not a financial bribe and they used means of spying or surveillance to find out somebody was gay, and then threatened they'd kill them if they didnt give away names of other people
Im sure theres more to it than we know and I'm sure theres lots of individual cases

snowflaker

Help!!!! wrote: »

Whats worse is that Trump is pro LGBTQ & they took the whole " grab the pussy " thing out of context

How is Trump pro LGBTQ?