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Census 2016 Results

  • 06-04-2017 1:10pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭


    Some interesting stats - 10% of population stated they have "no religion" (475,000) and the number of Irish speakers has fallen for the first time since 1946. Net immigration fell by 28,000, but some variations, with a 78% spike in Spanish nationals (12,100), Brazilians up 56% (13,600) and Italians increasing by 53% (11,700). In terms of languages, Polish remains the most spoken foreign tongue with 135,000 speakers, but French surprisingly second on 54,000, followed by Romanian (36,000), Lithuanian (35,000) and Spanish (32,000).


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭Jack the Stripper


    And the weather stats op?


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    68% of stats are made up.

    It would also be deadly OP if you gave an opinion on the stats posted rather then dumping them all as the thread opener.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭Jack the Stripper


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    68% of stats are made up.

    32% would disagree with you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    What's Sextons points average?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    And the weather stats op?

    Still ****e


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,549 ✭✭✭marcbrophy


    Personally, I think of number of No Religon is about 3 of 4 times too low.
    It's easily closer to 40%

    Source: I said, didn't I!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Arcade_Tryer


    marcbrophy wrote: »
    Personally, I think of number of No Religon is about 3 of 4 times too low.
    It's easily closer to 40%

    Source: I said, didn't I!
    Yeah, 1 in 10 people have No Religion. And close to 9 in 10 people are liars.

    Same applies for statistics on speaking the Irish language. Way overestimated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,535 ✭✭✭valoren


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    68% of stats are made up.

    It would also be deadly OP if you gave an opinion on the stats posted rather then dumping them all as the thread opener.

    Fourfty percent of people know that.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    valoren wrote: »
    Fourfty percent of people know that.

    5 in 8 of those people are not real.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    One thing I don't get about the Census is, if you are away on Census night, then none of your results count.

    One of the aims of the Census apparently, is to plan for the future, as an example they ask how you get to work, do you have the internet, etc. I guess this is too see what kind of infrastructure planning is needed.

    But last Census night I was out of the country, and was marked so. So my form pretty much want back, with no input from me. Surely if enough people were marked so, would that not affect overall results.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    68% of stats are made up.

    ner.


    Except in law enforcement where it's closer to 100%


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,346 ✭✭✭King George VI


    Some interesting stats - 10% of population stated they have "no religion" (475,000) and the number of Irish speakers has fallen for the first time since 1946. Net immigration fell by 28,000, but some variations, with a 78% spike in Spanish nationals (12,100), Brazilians up 56% (13,600) and Italians increasing by 53% (11,700). In terms of languages, Polish remains the most spoken foreign tongue with 135,000 speakers, but French surprisingly second on 54,000, followed by Romanian (36,000), Lithuanian (35,000) and Spanish (32,000). - forrdinorz all over the gaff lads

    Hmmm yes interesting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    No possessions - also up to 10%


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Yeah some interesting stuff there alright

    A visual from http://www.cso.ie/en/census/census2016reports/census2016preliminaryreport/
    Prelim_results_infographic_Final_medium-833x487.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    So in reality Polish is our second language


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    They are swimming to get out of Donegal!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    So in reality Polish is our second language

    I call for a Polish language act.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭Parchment


    I call for a Polish language act.

    I call for a Polish bakery on every corner....mmmm.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Arcade_Tryer


    So in reality Polish is our second language
    It has been for the last decade.

    Polish now has a stronger argument for being an official language of Ireland than Irish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    It has been for the last decade.

    Polish now has a stronger argument for being an official language of Ireland than Irish.

    Well they deserve it

    they really have brought a lot to this country since they arrived


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Arcade_Tryer


    Well they deserve it

    they really have brought a lot to this country since they arrived

    They absolutely do.

    In reality however, having one official language is optimum in Ireland, hence why Irish should lose its status immediately.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Well they deserve it

    they really have brought a lot to this country since they arrived

    They absolutely do.

    In reality however, having one official language is optimum in Ireland, hence why Irish should lose its status immediately.
    Fully agree. The Polish people deserve recognition. This is the way to do it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,926 ✭✭✭Reati


    They absolutely do.

    In reality however, having one official language is optimum in Ireland, hence why Irish should lose its status immediately.

    But if we do that how would I look down my nose at all you non Irish speakers...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    32% would disagree with you.
    Yeah yeah, fact is you can use statistics to prove anything you want, 85% of all people know that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14 seanboylan87


    They absolutely do, we should also change our flag to red and white and increase the amount of social welfare we give to Slavic babies born and bred in Slavic states


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Arcade_Tryer


    Fully agree. The Polish people deserve recognition. This is the way to do it.
    Indeed. And I don't even like using the word "deserve". But they have contributed a lot to this country. And most importantly, the numbers support the proposed status of Polish as an official language.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Arcade_Tryer


    Reati wrote: »
    But if we do that how would I look down my nose at all you non Irish speakers...
    I'm sure you'll still find a way!
    They absolutely do, we should also change our flag to red and white and increase the amount of social welfare we give to Slavic babies born and bred in Slavic states
    If changing the flag, ideally it would be replaced with the EU flag. But that would be a harder case to make.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 47 OWinter


    Hilarious to hear George Hook try to spin the stats to suit his racist, xenophobic Catholic agenda. Great to see the numbers refute so many arguments the dinosaurs have been promoting the last few years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    They absolutely do, we should also change our flag to red and white and increase the amount of social welfare we give to Slavic babies born and bred in Slavic states

    I take it you haven't been to your local Lidl lately - vast majority of Poles are gainfully employed.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14 seanboylan87


    I have but can't decipher whether the workers there speak Polish or Lithuanian - thankfully this will be sorted when Polish becomes an official language. Speaking of generalisations and the Polish working in Lidl - have you been down the dole office lately? Plenty of 'em there too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    I have but can't decipher whether the workers there speak Polish or Lithuanian - thankfully this will be sorted when Polish becomes an official language. Speaking of generalisations and the Polish working in Lidl - have you been down the dole office lately? Plenty of 'em there too.

    Not that many: 46978 non-irish out of a total of 267202. on the live register. when you break down that group, 26487 are from the EU15-EU28 countries (which comprises - Bulgaria, Cyprus, Croatia, Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Malta, Poland, Romania, Slovakia and Slovenia.

    http://www.cso.ie/px/pxeirestat/Statire/SelectVarVal/Define.asp?maintable=LRM09&PLanguage=0


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    54,000 speak French? - well oh-la-la.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,067 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I was actually expecting those to tick no religion to be much higher but that's what I get for spending to much time on Boards/online.
    When I speak to teachers about kids and Communion/Confrontation. Their doesn't seem to be a lot more opting out of these ceremonies even tough theirs no issues with them doing it and it wouldn't effect their place in the school if they did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,067 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Your Face wrote: »
    54,000 speak French? - well oh-la-la.

    Probably to Junior Cert standards!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Probably to Junior Cert standards!

    Qui.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    DO you still need to be an irish speaker to join the guards?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Its the Catholic culture bollocks, people still get fooled by it. Unless of course they are just genuine and read the Bible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭__Alex__


    Interesting to see the No Religion stats on younger age groups.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,093 ✭✭✭muckwarrior


    Same applies for statistics on speaking the Irish language. Way overestimated.

    I think part of the problem is the way the question is asked. AFAIR it says something like "Can you speak Irish". Technically I could answer yes to that due to the fact I know how to tell someone "I like ice-cream". However, if they asked "Are you fluent in Irish" or "Could you hold a conversation in Irish" then my answer would be a resounding no!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭Glenster


    I have but can't decipher whether the workers there speak Polish or Lithuanian - thankfully this will be sorted when Polish becomes an official language. Speaking of generalisations and the Polish working in Lidl - have you been down the dole office lately? Plenty of 'em there too.

    No I haven't, but I suspect its mainly skobes in there.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭Glenster


    I think part of the problem is the way the question is asked. AFAIR it says something like "Can you speak Irish". Technically I could answer yes to that due to the fact I know how to tell someone "I like ice-cream". However, if they asked "Are you fluent in Irish" or "Could you hold a conversation in Irish" then my answer would be a resounding no!

    Is maith liom reoiteog!

    I'm bilingual


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,077 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    Leitrim eh ... Nearly 30% vacant properties? Have people just upped and gone into Sligo or to Dublin? Nobody wants to be there is the vibe im getting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭__Alex__


    I predicted that the number of Catholics in the country would drop below 80% and it has! :eek: They are classing it as a sharp drop from the 2011 census. It could be below 70% in the next ten years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,278 ✭✭✭kenmc


    __Alex__ wrote: »
    I predicted that the number of Catholics in the country would drop below 80% and it has! :eek: They are classing it as a sharp drop from the 2011 census. It could be below 70% in the next ten years.
    here's hoping.... time that virus was eradicated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    GBX wrote: »
    Leitrim eh ... Nearly 30% vacant properties? Have people just upped and gone into Sligo or to Dublin? Nobody wants to be there is the vibe im getting.

    30% = 30


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,425 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    I was actually expecting those to tick no religion to be much higher but that's what I get for spending to much time on Boards/online.
    When I speak to teachers about kids and Communion/Confrontation. Their doesn't seem to be a lot more opting out of these ceremonies even tough theirs no issues with them doing it and it wouldn't effect their place in the school if they did.

    Problem is its been proven time and again to be a horribly bias and weighted question. The first issue is it asks what is your religion instead of what is your belief system. Secondly the no religion option has massive negative connotations still in Ireland and if you want to choose something else you have to write agnosticism or atheism in instead of having them as a choice which comes back to the issue of asking about religion instead of belief system.

    Also there needs to be a followup question to ask if you are actively practicing whatever you choose, the truthful answers to that question for catholics would raise some eyebrows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,077 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    30% = 30

    Yeah theres not many dwellings within the county


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,283 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    Mint Sauce wrote: »
    One thing I don't get about the Census is, if you are away on Census night, then none of your results count.

    One of the aims of the Census apparently, is to plan for the future, as an example they ask how you get to work, do you have the internet, etc. I guess this is too see what kind of infrastructure planning is needed.

    But last Census night I was out of the country, and was marked so. So my form pretty much want back, with no input from me. Surely if enough people were marked so, would that not affect overall results.

    The idea is all the people who are on holidays etc in the country who fill out a form make up for the people who are out of the country.

    This obviously doesn't help with the questions you mention but that's the way they look at it anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    __Alex__ wrote: »
    Interesting to see the No Religion stats on younger age groups.

    It would be interesting to see how the Catholic vs No Religion is spread across the ages. I'd say a lot of parents who identify as Catholic ticked the box for their kids even though many of them may not share their parents faith. Taking children out of the equation how many people can say they are Catholic.


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