RIP Martin McGuinness

Alf Stewart. · 23-03-2017 04:25PM

Jayop wrote: »

Fair play to Arlene for showing up. I could have understood had she not and I'm certain it's a tough decision for her and one that will get some eyebrows raised from her "side". But there she was and I'm reading she got a round of applause which is great.

Would be brilliant if his death could be used now to heal wounds rather than create more.

I noticed she had removed her Royal Crown, jewel brooch for the funeral.

I consider that a subtle mark of respect from her.

davycc · 23-03-2017 04:34PM

Jayop wrote: »

All the live streams gone now?

Can't access them myself watching it on rte news now on my old school TV, it covered the church part well and it's supposed to come back to Gerry Adams speech when they reach the grave side.

Currently showing general news stuff

Jayop · 23-03-2017 04:41PM

Alf Stewart. wrote: »

I noticed she had removed her Royal Crown, jewel brooch for the funeral.

I consider that a subtle mark of respect from her.

Yep. Little things like that shouldn't go unnoticed. With the help of God like I said earlier hopefully the death of himself will be a force for good. Even reading twitter updates now one of the most positive things is how few trolls there are. I would have expected every second post to be negative but they are few and far between.

davycc wrote: »

Can't access them myself watching it on rte news now on my old school TV, it covered the church part well and it's supposed to come back to Gerry Adams speech when they reach the grave side.

Currently showing general news stuff

Same. BBC stream cut off straight after the funeral too. I'd love to see that.

Kerrydude1981 · 23-03-2017 04:41PM

RTE cut the stream really fast,the coffin wasnt even out of the church and we were back to the Newsroom

I was hoping they would show the scenes outside the church as the hearse made its way through the crowd and to the graveyard,would have been nice to hear the reaction of the crowd there

Jayop · 23-03-2017 04:45PM

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

RTE cut the stream really fast,the coffin wasnt even out of the church and we were back to the Newsroom

I was hoping they would show the scenes outside the church as the hearse made its way through the crowd and to the graveyard,would have been nice to hear the reaction of the crowd there

This is outside the church

https://twitter.com/DavidYoungPA/status/844942955748229120

FrancieBrady · 23-03-2017 04:48PM

I wonder will Enda, the President and Arlene etc go to the graveside?

NIMAN · 23-03-2017 04:51PM

Alf Stewart. wrote: »

I noticed she had removed her Royal Crown, jewel brooch for the funeral.

I consider that a subtle mark of respect from her.

Considering she likely wears it on her pyjama's to bed, a real mark of respect.

Esel · 23-03-2017 04:54PM

I can't see Arlene going to the graveyard, tbh.

Jayop · 23-03-2017 04:55PM

I wouldn't expect them too.

Also if there was going to be any military element that's where it will happen.

armaghlad · 23-03-2017 04:56PM

Esel wrote: »

I can't see Arlene going to the graveyard, tbh.

Wouldn't expect her to, nor should there be any obligation on her to go.

steddyeddy · 23-03-2017 04:59PM

A relative of mine at the funeral said Arelene got a round of applause as she entered he church. Is he pulling my leg or did anyone else hear that?

NIMAN · 23-03-2017 05:00PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

A relative of mine at the funeral said Arelene got a round of applause as she entered he church. Is he pulling my leg or did anyone else hear that?

No it happened ok.
I was watching the chapels own webcam feed.

Clinton also got one.

As for her going to the graveside, can't see her doing that. I assume Martin will be getting buried at the republican plot in Derrys city cemetery, theres a lot of flags, statues etc there which would not be pleasant for her to stand beside. She done her bit already, she can head home now.

Jayop · 23-03-2017 05:02PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

A relative of mine at the funeral said Arelene got a round of applause as she entered he church. Is he pulling my leg or did anyone else hear that?

Yeah I seen a clip of it but can't find it now

edit: Here it is...

http://linkis.com/www.bbc.co.uk/news/ybqru

FrancieBrady · 23-03-2017 05:03PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

A relative of mine at the funeral said Arelene got a round of applause as she entered he church. Is he pulling my leg or did anyone else hear that?

Yes she did. I posted about it earlier.
Great thing, in and of itself.

Jayop · 23-03-2017 05:05PM

RTE apparently doing live coverrage from the graveyard when the time comes....

https://twitter.com/RTENewsNow/status/844953615768981509/photo/1

steddyeddy · 23-03-2017 05:10PM

Jayop wrote: »

Yeah I seen a clip of it but can't find it now

edit: Here it is...

http://linkis.com/www.bbc.co.uk/news/ybqru

That brought a tear to my eye to be honest.

steddyeddy · 23-03-2017 05:13PM

Having had family members flee Derry from the threat of Loyalist and security force violence I can tell you nothing makes me happy like reconcilliation.

Annabella1 · 23-03-2017 05:14PM

Jayop wrote: »

Yeah I seen a clip of it but can't find it now

edit: Here it is...

http://linkis.com/www.bbc.co.uk/news/ybqru

Great moment
Roll on the new assembly
Mcguiness final legacy

murpho999 · 23-03-2017 05:14PM

It's real progress that round of applause happened and McGuinness deserves credit for that. He most likely won't get that credit in the British Media though.

Jayop · 23-03-2017 05:15PM

murpho999 wrote: »

It's real progress that round of applause happened and McGuinness deserves credit for that. He most likely won't get that credit in the British Media though.

Who cares about the scummy British rag redtops and the likes of the Daily Mail. All they do is peddle hate and fear. Apparently that sells to the plebs so let them off with it.

FrancieBrady · 23-03-2017 05:22PM

It will be interesting to hear what Adams has to say.
I wonder is he thinking about Pearse and O'Donovan Rossa.

NIMAN · 23-03-2017 05:24PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

It will be interesting to hear what Adams has to say.
I wonder is he thinking about Pearse and O'Donovan Rossa.

I wonder did he think as any stage today, "will I get a send off like this".

Jayop · 23-03-2017 05:25PM

I'd imagine he will tbh.

murpho999 · 23-03-2017 05:25PM

Jayop wrote: »

Who cares about the scummy British rag redtops and the likes of the Daily Mail. All they do is peddle hate and fear. Apparently that sells to the plebs so let them off with it.

Because they feed mistruths to people and are believed by many.

Jayop · 23-03-2017 05:27PM

murpho999 wrote: »

Because they feed mistruths to people and are believed by many.

The opinion of anyone who reads the British tabloids or their Irish counterparts is absolutely meaningless to me.

Alf Stewart. · 23-03-2017 05:28PM

I am proud that the Republicans and Nationalists in Derry showed Arlene the courtesy and respect she deserved in St Columbas. I accept that attending today's funeral of an ex IRA commander was no small task for her to fulfill.

If she comes away from todays.experience with a new found.respect, and different approach to republicans and Nationalists with a different mindset, the new assy may just work, and some good could come from Martin's death.

Let's see

DanielODonnell · 23-03-2017 05:30PM

Kenny was wearing his blue shirt I see.

Clintons speech shows American imperialism at its finest, assuming that we would care what a US citizens opinions are on the matter, I am not saying his opinions are wrong but they shouldn't really stick their beaks in. I don't understand what he's preaching about anyway, most people aren't fighting anymore, maybe it is segregated education he is wanting to end.

Jayop · 23-03-2017 05:32PM

DanielODonnell wrote: »

Kenny was wearing his blue shirt I see.

Clintons speech shows American imperialism at its finest, assuming that we would care what a US citizens opinions are on the matter, I am not saying his opinions are wrong but they shouldn't really stick their beaks in.

Ah here. If it wasn't for American's, in particular Clinton, "sticking his beak in" there quite probably wouldn't have been such a successful peace process.

RTE live from the graveside now.

murpho999 · 23-03-2017 05:32PM

Jayop wrote: »

The opinion of anyone who reads the British tabloids or their Irish counterparts is absolutely meaningless to me.

Yes, but just because it doesn't impact you does not mean it has damaging influence on other people such as the Unionist community.

OldMrBrennan83 · 23-03-2017 05:32PM

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RIP Martin McGuinness

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