Marvel Neflix Thread

Doctor DooM · 04-10-2016 8:18am

I LOVED the first half. Everything about it. The dual villain thing was new, the threat of this hidden overlord was interesting, the music was amazing and damn my privileged arse but I actually felt I learned a thing or two about how black America feels.

SPOILERS below...

I thought the second half fell off a cliff. When it looked like we were doing a descent into madness thing for Mariah Dillard, I was all in; however Diamondback felt completely out of place.

I appreciate they were trying to evolve him into the Serpent Society character, but man that costume didn't look good (although there's probably an in canon reason for that- Hammer's work is supposed to be inferior and shoddier than Stark's).

Still, better than about 90% of what you get on tv.

pixelburp · 04-10-2016 8:30am

I've only watched two episodes, so not a great sample to gauge an entire series, but so far it has been leaps and bounds better than Daredevil series 2, the low watermark for Netflix Marvel IMO. But then it started off strong as well before diving off a cliff so who knows.

Penn · 04-10-2016 8:45am

pixelburp wrote: »

I've only watched two episodes, so not a great sample to gauge an entire series, but so far it has been leaps and bounds better than Daredevil series 2, the low watermark for Netflix Marvel IMO. But then it started off strong as well before diving off a cliff so who knows.

Yeah the Punisher stuff in DD season 2 was all great, especially the episode with the two of them on the rooftop, but overall DD season 2 was a bit weak.

I'd go DDS1 > JJ > LC > DDS2. I enjoyed Luke Cage a lot

though the villains all paled in comparison to Fisk/Kilgrave with maybe the exception of Shades who was one of the stars of the show for me. The constant blaxploitation music was jarring in some places too. It was still a great show, but just felt weaker than DD & JJ.

Agent Coulson · 04-10-2016 5:15pm

Iron Fist drops on March 17, 2017

http://tvline.com/2016/10/04/marvels-iron-fist-premiere-date-netflix/

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Agent Coulson · 09-10-2016 11:22am

Iron Fist Teaser.

Penn · 10-10-2016 8:54am

Sigourney Weaver to play main villain in The Defenders

http://tvline.com/2016/10/08/marvels-the-defenders-sigourney-weaver-cast-netflix/

Ben Gadot · 15-10-2016 3:03pm

Catched up with Luke Cage over the last 4 days and it just reaffirms my opinion that what Netflix and Marvel is doing is the finest thing happening on both the small and big screen within the genre.

Tazzimus · 17-10-2016 2:40pm

Watched Luke Cage on my week off last week, pretty cool I thought.
Haven't actually watched Jessica Jones yet, is it worth a watch?

The theme song for LC is pretty catchy too I thought.

FunLover18 · 17-10-2016 2:48pm

Tazzimus wrote:

Watched Luke Cage on my week off last week, pretty cool I thought. Haven't actually watched Jessica Jones yet, is it worth a watch?

I preferred JJ, David Tennent was fantastic!

Doctor DooM · 17-10-2016 3:07pm

I'm seeing all this unadulterated lurve for Luke Cage and I'm kinda surprised, I really thought it took a nosedive post episode 7!

Definitely thought Ms Jones and DD season 1 were superior (although there is plenty to love in Luke Cage).

Nervous Wreck · 17-10-2016 4:18pm

Doctor DooM wrote: »

I'm seeing all this unadulterated lurve for Luke Cage and I'm kinda surprised, I really thought it took a nosedive post episode 7!

Definitely thought Ms Jones and DD season 1 were superior (although there is plenty to love in Luke Cage).

I'm the opposite; I don't get why people disliked the last few episodes...

FunLover18 · 17-10-2016 4:51pm

Nervous Wreck wrote:

I'm the opposite; I don't get why people disliked the last few episodes...

Diamondback was just a total let down for me and I don't know why he was there. First half of the season he was built up as this mob overlords who Stokes was afraid of, I though Stokes was like level 1 and Diamondback was the boss at the end. But he arrived and he was just a

jealous brother

. His connection to Stokes and the mob was never explained; was it pure coincidence that he was manipulating things and Cage showed up or did he know Cage was in Harlem prior. It was just lazy writing and the battle for Harlem took a backseat to a lazily plotted family drama which I had no interest in.

That's a brief summary of why I disliked it.

Nervous Wreck · 17-10-2016 4:57pm

FunLover18 wrote: »

Diamondback was just a total let down for me and I don't know why he was there. First half of the season he was built up as this mob overlords who Stokes was afraid of, I though Stokes was like level 1 and Diamondback was the boss at the end. But he arrived and he was just a
jealous brother
. His connection to Stokes and the mob was never explained; was it pure coincidence that he was manipulating things knowing Cage would show up or did he know Cage was in Harlem prior. It was just lazy writing and the battle for Harlem took a backseat to a lazily plotted family drama which I had no interest in.

That's a brief summary of why I disliked it.

Hmm... I kinda liked all that. I really liked how Cottonmouth

was the slow-build calculating (though not as clever as he thought he was) villain that came before the lunatic with no real plan and a flimsy motive.

It kinda felt like the opposite to the other shows, which I liked. I really liked when

Shades realised just how stupid Diamondback was for his lack of a plan

. I have to say as well, I was really excited by the inclusion of

Hammer tech

and I was possibly overly excited by the

Serpent Society

costume reveal...

Mickeroo · 17-10-2016 4:58pm

I thought LC started out very cliched and just downright poor in terms of some of the dialogue and characters but improved as it went along. Didn't think it hit the heights of JJ or DD and it suffered from the same thing as JJ where I felt it peaked about 3 or 4 episodes too soon then just felt a bit aimless for the last few episodes.

FunLover18 · 17-10-2016 11:40pm

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

Hmm... I kinda liked all that. I really liked how Cottonmouth
was the slow-build calculating (though not as clever as he thought he was) villain that came before the lunatic with no real plan and a flimsy motive.
It kinda felt like the opposite to the other shows, which I liked. I really liked when
Shades realised just how stupid Diamondback was for his lack of a plan
. I have to say as well, I was really excited by the inclusion of
Hammer tech
and I was possibly overly excited by the
Serpent Society
costume reveal...

But they built DB up as someone who did have a plan.

Shaeds got really pissy when Stokes threatened Luke and said something along the lines of 'DB has plans for him'. I was hoping and expecting something better than 'he just wants to kill him'

It did nothing for me, but it did for you, so there you go different strokes.

I did enjoy the Hammer tech (really wish they'd get Rockwell back somehow) although as mentioned I was disappointed that it ended with two guys beating on each other (especially when

all Luke had to do was smash/rip off the power source on DB's back

. The Serpent Society means nothing to me as I've never read the comics.

Doctor DooM · 18-10-2016 11:47am

I think I can't get past, after a couple years of nuanced, complicated, interesting villains that Luke Cage reverts to one of the oldest tricks in the superhero book

the insane brother.

It was like watching a superhero film from the 90's, the way it was portrayed.

I do have to stress though that I enjoyed Luke Cage waaaay more than most other crap I've seen on TV, it's just that the competition (both DC and Marvel) have such high water marks on TV when they're good.

Agent Coulson · 22-10-2016 8:00pm

‘Jessica Jones’ Hires All Women Directors for Season 2

http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/jessica-jones-women-directors-season-two-melissa-rosenberg-1201897203/

ancapailldorcha · 26-10-2016 10:14am

Watching the finale tonight. Thought it was a bit flat for the first few episodes. The second half of the season is a big improvement so far and I like the idea of

switching the villains. Diamondback is a great villain though the twist was a bit weak. The Judas bullets added a nice dimension in that we get to see Cage's powers act against him as well.

steve_r · 26-10-2016 12:34pm

I couldn't get into JJ, finished Luke Cage recently. I think the acting is good but the writing is poor, both in terms of plot and really naff dialogue at times.

The scene where Misty was being interviewed was particularly bad for clunky exposition dialogue.

I prefered Daredevil becuase the surrounding world seemed to be a lot more coherent. A lot of time was spent on the local positics in Luke Cage and it didn't really work for me. There was no real media/journalistic personalities challenging anything that was going on.

As regards Diamondback and Cottenmouth, I actually thought they were both good villans in terms of being actual characters. Contrast with say X-Men Apocolpse where it's just an overpowered bad guy.

Agent Coulson · 10-11-2016 12:51am

Marvel Has Plans for Possible Ghost Rider Netflix Series or Movie

http://comicbook.com/2016/11/09/ghost-rider-netflix-series-gabriel-luna/

Ben Gadot · 10-11-2016 7:20am

Strange that they'd shift gears like that given they introduced him outside of Netflix, but whatever gets me closer to a Blade show on Netflix I'll take. If GR opens the door to the supernatural side then I'm all for it.

Nervous Wreck · 10-11-2016 6:08pm

Ugh.... no interest in seeing a Robbie Reyes Ghost Rider show or movie. Give me (a well written version of) Johnny Blaze or give me death!

Agent Coulson · 04-12-2016 11:30pm

https://twitter.com/LukeCage/status/805484666241236992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

pixelburp · 05-12-2016 12:21pm

Great news, seemed to be the more divisive Netflix / Marvel show but it was the better of the four so far for me. Could probably do with being a touch shorter, Netflix need to start hiring better editors

sky88 · 07-12-2016 3:42pm

finished luke cage last really enjoyed it. it would be behind jj and daredevil for me but i think it needed to be a few episodes shorter.

Agent Coulson · 12-01-2017 8:39pm

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Nervous Wreck · 07-02-2017 5:45pm

New trailer for Iron Fist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9OKL5no-S0

pixelburp · 07-02-2017 7:18pm

Huh. That's the first Marvel'flix trailer I've seen that hasn't grabbed me. Very underwhelming, and were it not for the pedigree of previous efforts & the Marvel branding overall, I'd give it the show a pass.

Nervous Wreck · 07-02-2017 9:22pm

I can't be objective tbh. I don't really watch trailers so I don't know how that stacks up. It doesn't give much away, except a seemingly changed version of the origin... But I *love* Iron Fist so I'm all in.

OwaynOTT · 07-02-2017 9:31pm

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

I can't be objective tbh. I don't really watch trailers so I don't know how that stacks up. It doesn't give much away, except a seemingly changed version of the origin... But I *love* Iron Fist so I'm all in.

Awful whiff of Arrow of that trailer. Which wouldn't be all that bad, as long as we don't go to the Island.

Slydice · 07-02-2017 10:47pm

Yeah the trailer wasn't like .. as hypey? as I remember the others

Nervous Wreck · 11-02-2017 10:54am

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Awful whiff of Arrow of that trailer. Which wouldn't be all that bad, as long as we don't go to the Island.

Is the mystical city of K'un L'un okay...?

Agent Coulson · 22-02-2017 8:00pm

eyeball kid · 09-03-2017 4:26pm

Iron Fist will be out next Friday, St Patricks day.

Ben Gadot · 09-03-2017 7:27pm

It's getting a mauling by critics who have seen the first 6 episodes.

The ironic thing is that the reviews have actually made me want to watch it now when previously I wasn't pushed based on casting and what we had seen.

Mainly my issue was Finn as I wasn't sure he could carry the role having watched him in GoT. Sure enough one of the criticisms aimed at the show is his lack of charisma.

I'll give it a go as most of the criticisms I've read wouldn't bother me on the surface. I mean what some find boring I find interesting, but if the lead struggles it's always a bad start.

Here we go · 09-03-2017 7:30pm

When's season 3 of daredevil back love dare devil think they really got it right watched half of Luke cage but just couldn't get into it like dd

Lithium93_ · 09-03-2017 9:09pm

Here we go wrote: »

When's season 3 of daredevil back love dare devil think they really got it right watched half of Luke cage but just couldn't get into it like dd

Sometime in 2018.

Varik · 12-03-2017 8:58pm

What's the general feeling on Iron fist, will it be the first big miss step. Personally hoping it's good, as I'd like more mystic/magic in the MCU.

Hope the reviews and all the hate is because it falls on the wrong side of the PC line, and I get a binge before going out Friday.

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Sometime in 2018.

If Skynet hasn't killed us all.

When I see dates with 2020+ on them it's nuts.

pixelburp · 12-03-2017 9:14pm

Varik wrote: »

What's the general feeling on Iron fist, will it be the first big miss step. Personally hoping it's good, as I'd like more mystic/magis in the MCU.

Hope the reviews and all the hate is because it falls on the wrong side of the PC line, and I get a binge before going out Friday.

In fairness, a lot of the negative reviews have also cited poor characters and limp action. Remains to be seen when I watch it myself, but many have openly said it just lacks the style and substance of the other Netflix shows.

Doctor DooM · 13-03-2017 12:03pm

pixelburp wrote: »

In fairness, a lot of the negative reviews have also cited poor characters and limp action. Remains to be seen when I watch it myself, but many have openly said it just lacks the style and substance of the other Netflix shows.

Most of the reviews have read really bad but they've all also been sure to point out they've only seen the first 6 episodes. Hopefully something huge happens in episode 7 that kicks it into gear.

Penn · 13-03-2017 12:09pm

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Most of the reviews have read really bad but they've all also been sure to point out they've only seen the first 6 episodes. Hopefully something huge happens in episode 7 that kicks it into gear.

Yeah, like a reverse Luke Cage. I enjoyed the first half of the season with Cottonmouth but once Diamondback came into it, I thought it went downhill a bit. Still an enjoyable watch, but took a turn for the worse.

Hopefully the second half of Iron Fist kicks it up a notch.

Doctor DooM · 13-03-2017 12:20pm

Penn wrote: »

Yeah, like a reverse Luke Cage. I enjoyed the first half of the season with Cottonmouth but once Diamondback came into it, I thought it went downhill a bit. Still an enjoyable watch, but took a turn for the worse.

Hopefully the second half of Iron Fist kicks it up a notch.

Funny, reverse Luke Cage was exactly what I was hoping for!

pixelburp · 13-03-2017 12:29pm

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Most of the reviews have read really bad but they've all also been sure to point out they've only seen the first 6 episodes. Hopefully something huge happens in episode 7 that kicks it into gear.

Iron Fist is presumably like the other Netflix shows and a 15 episode season 1; episode 7 would want to be something spectacular if those 6 episodes really are as limp as these reviews are implying. And given all previous shows have had distinct problems with their back halfves & sticking the landing, I'm not holding out hope Iron First reversing the trend!

Don't get me wrong I'm not hoping Iron Fist is bad, but given Daredevil, Jessica Jones and Luke Cage all had their own problems but by-and-large succeeded despite them, I'm worried Iron Fist just won't

Penn · 13-03-2017 12:41pm

pixelburp wrote: »

And given all previous shows have had distinct problems with their back halfves & sticking the landing, I'm not holding out hope Iron First reversing the trend!

I'd disagree there. I thought the second halves of both Daredevil S1 and Jessica Jones were every bit as good (if not better) than the first halves and both ended really well.

Luke Cage as I said before definitely had a much weaker second half. Daredevil S2 admittedly did too, but the first half of DD S2 was so strong with the Punisher.

Doctor DooM · 13-03-2017 12:42pm

pixelburp wrote: »

Iron Fist is presumably like the other Netflix shows and a 15 episode season 1; episode 7 would want to be something spectacular if those 6 episodes really are as limp as these reviews are implying. And given all previous shows have had distinct problems with their back halfves & sticking the landing, I'm not holding out hope Iron First reversing the trend!

Don't get me wrong I'm not hoping Iron Fist is bad, but given Daredevil, Jessica Jones and Luke Cage all had their own problems but by-and-large succeeded despite them, I'm worried Iron Fist just won't

Yeah to be fair that's me grasping at straws: There's nothing actually indicating the second half is good, I'm just hoping the reason they've not been shown is something amazing happens.

Nervous Wreck · 17-03-2017 9:20am

Anyone started Iron Fist yet? I can't start until about 12:30... I know reviews have been negative but I'm still really excited...!

ancapailldorcha · 17-03-2017 11:33am

Haven't started it yet. Seen a fairly scathing review from The Independent:

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/reviews/iron-fist-review-marvel-netlfix-dud-luke-cage-daredevil-jessica-jones-a7634361.html

Nervous Wreck · 17-03-2017 2:47pm

First episode was really enjoyable! Bit cheesy but really good overall!

Nervous Wreck · 17-03-2017 4:59pm

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

First episode was really enjoyable! Bit cheesy but really good overall!

Yep, really enjoying this show so far. On episode 4 and it's moving along very nicely!

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