Marvel Neflix Thread

brianregan09

Just thought I'd start a proper thread in here for the netflix shows

Loved both seasons so far Daredevil and Jessica Jones were both great but in there own way , very different shows too and the punisher season of Daredevil looks like its going to amp it up even more

flazio

Don't forget Luke Cage getting his own show first. Hopefully sometime before the next Sweet Christmas

Nervous Wreck

No ones giving Iron Fist the love...

Nervous Wreck

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

No ones giving Iron Fist the love...

I'm sure that there is a double-entendre there somewhere

Penn

Iron Fist will definitely be the toughest one to get right, but I have nothing but confidence in them. Daredevil and Jessica Jones were both outstanding imo, largely in part to being able to properly develop the story of the villains. The MCU has been going down this route of just killing off the villains, and given how little time is available in some of the movies to develop the villains, they just end up feeling quite bland. Incredible performances from some of them, James Spader and Guy Pierce in particular, but they're just booted away never to be seen again.

There's a reason Loki is one of the most popular characters as a whole in the MCU; his story in the films was given a proper chance to shine and because they haven't killed him off, he's been able to come back and continue his story.

But the Netflix shows have given us two incredible villains in Kingpin and Kilgrave. Both excellent performances which in many cases outshone the heroes.

pixelburp

For me, Daredevil has been the strongest Marvel TV adaptation to date, to the extent that it pretty much evaporated any remaining enthusiasm I had for Agents of SHIELD. Compared with those vigorous shenanigans in Hells Kitchen, the ABC show felt flat, bland and excessively ... 'Network'y. It never managed to maintain a prolonged period of competency to keep my interest & Daredevil was a much more intriguing use of my time.

Jessica Jones on the other hand, I found pretty turgid; grimy, but not particularly compelling with a cast of characters that were either utterly unrelatable & unlikeable, or worse; just plain uninteresting. That said, Kilgrave was a masterstroke, and one of the very few genuinely villainous & threatening antagonists Marvel adaptations have managed.

brianregan09

I can't wait for Iron Fist that's the one that will be the toughest as some have said to get right but if they do it has the potential to be the best with a bit of supernatural kung fu stuff in there

Hopefully we can get a cameo of him in Luke Cage before hand or vice versa

Loved Daredevil I think getting Berenthal to play the Punisher will be a masterstroke , He's been immense in everything I've seen him in from Fury to Wolf of Wall street and played a very Punisher like character in the Walking dead as Shane and he was compelling in that , was actually sickened to see him go

I liked JJ alot it was very different yet similarish Tenant was class as the villain probably one of the best so far in a marvel adaptation

Lithium93_

Game of Thrones actor Finn Jones to play Iron Fist
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/02/25/finn-jones-iron-fist

Nervous Wreck

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Game of Thrones actor Finn Jones to play Iron Fist
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/02/25/finn-jones-iron-fist

Needs a haircut but I can see him as Danny Rand alright! Physically, anyway. I've never seen GoT so I've no idea what he's like as an actor...

Nervous Wreck

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

Needs a haircut but I can see him as Danny Rand alright! Physically, anyway. I've never seen GoT so I've no idea what he's like as an actor...

What the holy f**k you've never seen GoT?

Lithium93_

I've never seen Game Of Thrones either :pac:, but I digress.

Nervous Wreck

Deleted User wrote: »

What the holy f**k you've never seen GoT?

No but I feel like I have with the amount of spoilers people post openly on Facebook...

pixelburp

I'd ask why you guys hadn't even given GoT a go, but honestly I suspect I might know the why. Gave up myself after 3 seasons of it so I'm no judge.

Anyway, as for Finn Jones, he looks the part. I am curious as to whether Iron Fist will continue the broadly grittier, urban level of the other Netflix shows (I'm guessing the Luke Cage one will also, considering he's already part of Jessica Jones). Presumably it will, but honestly a tonal shift towards something lighter would be nice. The film franchises are happy to do it, wouldn't mind something more ... fun... from Netflix

Mickeroo

pixelburp wrote: »

I'd ask why you guys hadn't even given GoT a go, but honestly I suspect I might know the why. Gave up myself after 3 seasons of it so I'm no judge.

Anyway, as for Finn Jones, he looks the part. I am curious as to whether Iron Fist will continue the broadly grittier, urban level of the other Netflix shows (I'm guessing the Luke Cage one will also, considering he's already part of Jessica Jones). Presumably it will, but honestly a tonal shift towards something lighter would be nice. The film franchises are happy to do it, wouldn't mind something more ... fun... from Netflix

There's plenty of fun in the movies, AoS and Agent Carter, the darker more adult tone of the Netflix shows is a nice change from the rest of the MCU imo.

Speaking of which I've just finished the second season of Agent Carter and it's really very good.

pixelburp

Mickeroo wrote: »

There's plenty of fun in the movies, AoS and Agent Carter, the darker more adult tone of the Netflix shows is a nice change from the rest of the MCU imo.

Speaking of which I've just finished the second season of Agent Carter and it's really very good.

I think above all else the Marvel franchises have demonstrated an ability to mix and match genres and tonal levels on a whim, so there's no reason why the Defenders saga couldn't, or shouldn't, do the same.

Iron Fist could be a good chance to be Netflix's palette cleanser. Certainly, 'adult' shouldn't be incompatible with 'fun' & just because Netflix isn't hemmed in by the same narrative and stylistic constraints an achingly network show like Agents of Shield is, doesn't mean it shouldn't embrace a spirit of fun and adventure now and then.

steve_r

pixelburp wrote: »

I think above all else the Marvel franchises have demonstrated an ability to mix and match genres and tonal levels on a whim, so there's no reason why the Defenders saga couldn't, or shouldn't, do the same.

Iron Fist could be a good chance to be Netflix's palette cleanser. Certainly, 'adult' shouldn't be incompatible with 'fun' & just because Netflix isn't hemmed in by the same narrative and stylistic constraints an achingly network show like Agents of Shield is, doesn't mean it shouldn't embrace a spirit of fun and adventure now and then.

Yeah I'd agree, I'd love to see something similar in tone to Mark Waid's Daredevil or Matt Fraction's Hawkeye comics.

Iron fist is very tough. I think it's hugely dependent on how charismatic the lead character is in the role. He doesn't have as strong a backstory as Daredevil/spider-man or the same degree of big villans.

Nervous Wreck

steve_r wrote: »

Yeah I'd agree, I'd love to see something similar in tone to Mark Waid's Daredevil or Matt Fraction's Hawkeye comics.

Iron fist is very tough. I think it's hugely dependent on how charismatic the lead character is in the role. He doesn't have as strong a backstory as Daredevil/spider-man or the same degree of big villans.

I'm sorry but are you kidding?! If you've not read Iron Fist comics, read no further, folks: Danny Rand

travels with his parents to the mystical city of K'un-L'un at age 9. On the way there, his sees his father fall from a cliff to his death and his mother eaten alive by wolves while attempting to save him. He then makes it to K'un-L'un and gets trained in Kung Fu, eventually earning the power of the Iron Fist by vanquishing a dragon and plunging his fists into its molten heart! He plunges his fists into the MOLTEN HEART OF A VANQUISHED DRAGON!!

That is one of the best, most badass backstories of ANY Marvel hero, imo. It may not be as well known as Spider-man's origins but neither was Daredevil's until a few years ago.

I do agree that I'd like to see something like Waid's Daredevil or Fraction's Hawkeye and I actually think Fraction's version of Hawkeye could fit well in the Netflix universe... but I'd like Danny Rand to be Danny Rand in this not a mix of Danny Rand and Fraction's Clint Barton. Although, I'd be totally up for a Kate Bishop appearance!

Lithium93_

In all fairness, Iron Fist's origin story is pretty cool.

Ridley

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

but I'd like Danny Rand to be Danny Rand in this not a mix of Danny Rand and Fraction's Clint Barton.

steve_r

I stand corrected! I had a much more vanilla backstory in my mind for some reason.

Clearly you're closer to the Iron Fist lore than I am, he's just not a character that ever really clicked with me.

Where I'm coming from with the Fraction/Waid stuff is to allow the story to be light sometimes, I don't need the character to be like Hawkeye/Daredevil at his own expense, I just don't want more Gotham level of grimness

Nervous Wreck

Haha,Ridley was wondering if I'd be caught on that!

steve_r wrote: »

I stand corrected! I had a much more vanilla backstory in my mind for some reason.

Clearly you're closer to the Iron Fist lore than I am, he's just not a character that ever really clicked with me.

Where I'm coming from with the Fraction/Waid stuff is to allow the story to be light sometimes, I don't need the character to be like Hawkeye/Daredevil at his own expense, I just don't want more Gotham level of grimness

I despise Gotham but yeah I get ya. Tbh, were probably in the same boat in thinking Waid's DD and Fraction's Hawkeye are some of Marvel's best output in a decade but I don't think it'd fit here, particularly the levity of DD. I do hope someone takes influence from those stories soon though...!

Nervous Wreck

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

No but I feel like I have with the amount of spoilers people post openly on Facebook...

It's ridiculous. I had an episode ruined by someone, who gave out to me discussing the books with a friend before the series even started airing.
They think that the moment they see it stateside that it's fair game to post

pixelburp

A better look at the new Daredevil costume, and those of The Punisher and Elektra; I quite like Murdock's new duds, definitely feels more like body armour than the slightly goofy, 90s esque variant we saw at the end of season 1. The promise of Frank Castle wielding a minigun is also pretty noteworthy

http://imgur.com/p3IOkJm

Lithium93_

Luke Cage to debut on Netflix in September, September 30th to be precise.
http://mcuexchange.com/luke-cage-season-one-to-debut-on-netflix-on-september-30th/

pixelburp

Given how intrinsic to events Luke was in Jessica Jones, wonder if his series will be vice versa & in what form the series will take.

Nervous Wreck

pixelburp wrote: »

Given how intrinsic to events Luke was in Jessica Jones, wonder if his series will be vice versa & in what form the series will take.

There have been rumours that parts of it will run concurrently with JJ, yep. I'd like it if the first half of LC was tied with JJ and then it continued on its own after the events of JJ. That'd be pretty interesting.

pixelburp

Another Daredevil season 2 trailer, with the new series out on Friday. Looking good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMC7H23-sMs

brianregan09

So finished it this evening what did everyone think ?

Nervous Wreck

brianregan09 wrote: »

So finished it this evening what did everyone think ?

Easily better than S1 for me, which was a really tall order. I thought every moment The Punisher was onscreen was fantastic. Also a huge amount of plot threads left open for the next season, as well as

a stand-alone Punisher show and more set-up/world building for Iron Fist

. Great stuff!

Slydice

17 page thread on it here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057250803

Agent Coulson

Jeremy Renner said over the weekend he would open to bringing Hawkeye to Netflix.

Penn

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Jeremy Renner said over the weekend he would open to bringing Hawkeye to Netflix.

I would be open to watching that.

FunLover18

Penn wrote: »

I would be open to watching that.

I think the Avenger who would best fit in with the dark Netflix tone is Black Widow but I would also be happy with Hawkeye.

I liked the nods in Daredevil to the dangers/morality of vigilantism, feeds nicely into CW thematically.

OwaynOTT

Slydice wrote: »

17 page thread on it here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057250803

Can't find any 17 page thread but I can find a 7 page thread :P

Nervous Wreck

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Jeremy Renner said over the weekend he would open to bringing Hawkeye to Netflix.

I would love to see this, especially if they were to base it off Matt Fraction's run. It'd also be a great way to introduce Kate Bishop to the MCU. Don't see it happening but it would be lots of fun.

Lithium93_

Black Widow series would be cool too, seeing as a movie is not on the table anytime soon. Or a Hawkeye & Black Widow series.

Agent Coulson

More chance of Renner doing a series than Johansson to be honest.

flazio

Although, it has to be said, I'm watching Agent Carter on Fox UK at the moment and there's a big Black Widow origin angle being played on that show.

EoinMcLovin

Jessica Henwick who also plays one of the Sand Snakes ( Nymeria Sand) to play Colleen Wing in Iron Fist

Agent Coulson

Daredevil renewed for a 3rd season.

Luke Cage trailer

Iron Fiist teaser

Defenders teaser

Slydice

Wasn't sure how they'd be able to big up Luke Cage more than from Jessica Jones but that was pretty cool

Nervous Wreck

5 days until Luke Cage and some reviews are saying it may be Netflix's strongest Marvel show.

FunLover18

Will Luke Cage be up at midnight?

Nervous Wreck

FunLover18 wrote: »

Will Luke Cage be up at midnight?

Nah. Can't remember the exact time but it'll be up at midnight in one of the American time zones if I'm not mistaken...

Agent Coulson

Usually about 5 am our time they drop.

aaronjumper

Luke Cage is on Netflix now, just watched the 1st episode.
Overall I liked it.

Slydice

aaronjumper wrote: »

Luke Cage is on Netflix now, just watched the 1st episode.
Overall I liked it.

There's a thread for it here in case ye're lookin:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057482537

Doctor DooM

Are we allowed to talk about it here? I prefer this forum

Nervous Wreck

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Are we allowed to talk about it here? I prefer this forum

I do too!

Absolutely chat away about Luke Cage here. IMO, it's probably marvel's second strongest season after Daredevil S1. Probably not far behind it though.

Also Starring LeVar Burton

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

I do too!

Absolutely chat away about Luke Cage here. IMO, it's probably marvel's second strongest season after Daredevil S1. Probably not far behind it though.

I honestly preferred it to both Daredevil and Jessica Jones (as much as I loved both of those)...

I had some issues with the second half of the season, but overall I loved it. The score and soundtrack was fantastic.

FunLover18

Nervous Wreck wrote:

Absolutely chat away about Luke Cage here. IMO, it's probably marvel's second strongest season after Daredevil S1. Probably not far behind it though.

Also Starring LeVar Burton wrote:

I honestly preferred it to both Daredevil and Jessica Jones (as much as I loved both of those)...

Second half really dragged it down imo. The villain was so bad, nothing on Kilgrave or Fisk.

For me DD S1 > JJ > DD S2 > LC.