Nier Automata

Retr0gamer · 07-03-2017 12:10pm #1

So the reviews are out, 90% average on Metacritic.

Really can't wait to play this one even though I'll have to wait for the PC release.

The original was one of the best experiences of the last generation for me. The best 7/10 game money could buy

With Platinum on board with this one hopefully they can iron out the jank which was the only real issue with the original.

I've been listening to the soundtrack as well and it seems to be as good as the originals.

Apparently just like the original you won't get half of what the game offers without delving into New Game plus mode.

K.O.Kiki · 07-03-2017 1:09pm

Pre-ordered on Steam.

Yes, I know I'm not supposed to, but it's PlatinumGames!

wes · 07-03-2017 2:58pm

Will be going for the PS4 version. My PC is a bit long in the tooth these days, and the PS Pro, will probably do a better job of things.

K.O.Kiki · 07-03-2017 4:06pm

wes wrote: »

Will be going for the PS4 version. My PC is a bit long in the tooth these days, and the PS Pro, will probably do a better job of things.

Could just upgrade it though

Spear · 07-03-2017 4:24pm

What are Platinum's past PC ports like? I'm wary after From Software's lazy attempts, but tempted after seeing a video on the background for this.

Sieghardt · 07-03-2017 4:30pm

I thought the first game was absolute rubbish but I'm still incredibly excited for this game, it really feels like Yoko Taro is back at his best paired with a revengeance level effort at reworking someone else's game from platinum

Retr0gamer · 07-03-2017 4:30pm

Spear wrote: »

What are Platinum's past PC ports like? I'm wary after From Software's lazy attempts, but tempted after seeing a video on the background for this.

Their metal gear rising revengeance port was stellar.

Also PC poets are much simpler these days with the similarities between PC and console architecture these days. Even From gave us a fine port of Dark Souls 3.

wes · 07-03-2017 4:32pm

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Could just upgrade it though

I think at this point, I would basically be rebuilding the whole thing. Probably need a new mother board for any meaningful upgrades. Will probably do it for later in the year.

Temptamperu · 07-03-2017 8:46pm

theirs too many games and not enough schmeckles

Andrew76 · 07-03-2017 9:18pm

Temptamperu wrote: »

theirs too many games and not enough schmeckles

Not enough time either. Zelda has gone back in it's case until I'm done with Nioh and now this game is almost upon us.

ERG89 · 08-03-2017 12:10am

Temptamperu wrote: »

theirs too many games and not enough schmeckles

This year has been ridiculous so far Zelda, Horizon, Nioh, Yakuza 0, Mass Effect Andromeda, For Honor, Resi 7, Gravity Rush, Nier Automata, Yooka Laylee, Prey and others i'm likely forgetting.

Anyway I saw this video last week about Nier and thought i'd share it. Yoko Taro seems like quite the individual.

Captain Chaos · 08-03-2017 12:21pm

Can't wait for this now, not usually my type of game but I really enjoyed the demo and I love the art style and direction, Day One Edition with the PS1 pod skin pre ordered.

As said above so many good games at once, q1 of 2017 is a great time for gaming imo. Res 7, Zelda, Horizon, Mass Effect and this are all and will be in my to play list at home as they are released.

Cina · 08-03-2017 4:18pm

Is this supposed to be of a similar difficulty to DS/Bloodborne?

K.O.Kiki · 08-03-2017 4:29pm

Cina wrote: »

Is this supposed to be of a similar difficulty to DS/Bloodborne?

The "Easy" mode pretty much plays the game for you, if you're a JRPG player first.

The "Very Hard" mode kills you in 1 hit.

PlatinumGames, by their own words, try to balance their games to be fun for Easy/Normal mode players first.

Captain Chaos · 08-03-2017 4:30pm

Cina wrote: »

Is this supposed to be of a similar difficulty to DS/Bloodborne?

No, not even close. This is easy and you can change difficulty on the fly. Then there are as many new game plus and chapter select modes as you like and everything carries over. It can be as fun or difficult as you like.

Robert ninja · 08-03-2017 6:21pm

Its confirmed to have denuvo so I'll be skipping it until its removed or is on sale for pennies.

09-03-2017 5:52pm

I wasn't sold by this game at all at first but my hankering for the new zelda might have to be appeased by this.

09-03-2017 5:55pm

Robert ninja wrote: »

Its confirmed to have denuvo so I'll be skipping it until its removed or is on sale for pennies.

Why is that a big deal?

K.O.Kiki · 09-03-2017 6:49pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Why is that a big deal?

Stops us modding 2B so we can see even more of her arse! :pac:

09-03-2017 8:27pm

Must have a look at the demo later on now I finally have a PS4. Find platinum very hit or miss. I'm leaning more towards hit from what I've seen of this so far though.

Robert ninja · 09-03-2017 8:34pm

It's a just a business decision I don't want to financially support in the industry. To me it's companies wasting their budgets on DRM (that doesn't work and may inconvenience customers) instead of investing in things I appreciate and want to encourage like uncapped framerates and linux support.

Oh and it's capped at 1080p 60fps https://youtu.be/JO-_FKlHRRQ?t=1442

" we wont allow to change resolution/fps because we want players to experience the game at the highest quality that we think"

I wouldn't say I've completely lost interest but I've definitely lost €59.99 of interest.

johnny_ultimate · 09-03-2017 8:35pm

I'm looking forward to playing it, the demo was strong. Although I find the 'real game is after the credits' idea a tad overused at this stage - comes across a bit gimmicky now that a good few games have used the concept, even if this sounds like it goes considerably further with the idea than others.

09-03-2017 8:55pm

I find it very hard pushed to pay €60 for a game ever since the **** show that was Fallout 4. That sounds very entitled but indy games have spoiled me.

ERG89 · 09-03-2017 9:05pm

Deleted User wrote:

I find it very hard pushed to pay â‚¬60 for a game ever since the **** show that was Fallout 4. That sounds very entitled but indy games have spoiled me.

Few games hold thise price that long either. Especially stuff like this game....no offence to Platinum.
I've barely scratched Zelda but am using it as an excuse to put stuff like this in an unpurchased backlog.

Retr0gamer · 09-03-2017 11:12pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

I'm looking forward to playing it, the demo was strong. Although I find the 'real game is after the credits' idea a tad overused at this stage - comes across a bit gimmicky now that a good few games have used the concept, even if this sounds like it goes considerably further with the idea than others.

If it's anything like the original it's not like other new game plus and we'll worth experiencing. It won't feel like playing the same game again. And it's platinum soade to be replayed.

09-03-2017 11:37pm

Had a look at some of the reviews and played the some of the demo and hard to believe they were talking about the same game I played. Don't mean that in a negative way just wasn't expecting what the reviews said about the game being open world after what I played in the demo.

Found it quite jarring how it switched from 3D to 2.5D to top down , not bad things just unexpected.

Curious now about it given they say it's open world, so time for some more videos I think. How open is open is my main question I guess

Definitely seems more Platinum hit than Platinum miss for me. With them I either love their game or absolutely hate it.

Retr0gamer · 10-03-2017 12:23am

Deleted User wrote: »

Found it quite jarring how it switched from 3D to 2.5D to top down , not bad things just unexpected.

It was something the original did quite a bit, you'd be playing the game and the camera would switch and you'd find yourself playing a completely different genre of game before you even realised it. It was really neat how it transitioned into all these genres with call backs to the likes of Diablo, Resident Evil and even text based adventures, switching into the gameplay dynamically without any interruption to the flow or mechanics of the game.

K.O.Kiki · 10-03-2017 12:32am

Robert ninja wrote: »

It's a just a business decision I don't want to financially support in the industry. To me it's companies wasting their budgets on DRM (that doesn't work and may inconvenience customers) instead of investing in things I appreciate and want to encourage like uncapped framerates and linux support.

Oh and it's capped at 1080p 60fps https://youtu.be/JO-_FKlHRRQ?t=1442

I wouldn't say I've completely lost interest but I've definitely lost €59.99 of interest.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

1920x1080 makes up 43.23% of monitors on Steam.

Higher resolutions make up less than 5%, combined.

From a business POV, I understand if you decide to devote your resources to textures/assets that will look good at 1080p.

10-03-2017 12:39am

Retr0gamer wrote: »

It was something the original did quite a bit, you'd be playing the game and the camera would switch and you'd find yourself playing a completely different genre of game before you even realised it. It was really neat how it transitioned into all these genres with call backs to the likes of Diablo, Resident Evil and even text based adventures, switching into the gameplay dynamically without any interruption to the flow or mechanics of the game.

I've had the original on my shelf unplayed a criminally long time , got it for a 5er in a sale. Though I got the impression they were linked pretty much in name only? Ok some characters pop up but that they were very different?

I'm waiting for Nier to go BC on Xbox now so I can play it.

10-03-2017 12:45am

Anyone else find the art style a bit bland

Retr0gamer · 10-03-2017 12:52am

Deleted User wrote: »

I've had the original on my shelf unplayed a criminally long time , got it for a 5er in a sale. Though I got the impression they were linked pretty much in name only? Ok some characters pop up but that they were very different?

I'm waiting for Nier to go BC on Xbox now so I can play it.

There's apparently some cross over but you can enjoy them separately.

Retr0gamer · 10-03-2017 12:55am

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

1920x1080 makes up 43.23% of monitors on Steam.

Higher resolutions make up less than 5%, combined.

From a business POV, I understand if you decide to devote your resources to textures/assets that will look good at 1080p.

It's actually really dumb not offering higher resolutions considering a simple hex edit is all that is needed.

Unless you are using the Omega Force Musou engine because the DoF effect is tied to resolution because you are lazy and your engine ****s up on 21:9 screens even if you select a 16:9 resolution :mad:

Robert ninja · 10-03-2017 2:56am

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

1920x1080 makes up 43.23% of monitors on Steam.

Higher resolutions make up less than 5%, combined.

From a business POV, I understand if you decide to devote your resources to textures/assets that will look good at 1080p.

Supporting resolutions and framerates above 1080/60 like other titles have been doing for the last decade isn't much to ask. It's a step back no matter what excuse they have. And their reason wasn't business it was, " experience the game at the highest quality that we think" which doesn't even make sense. It's because they're a Japanese who have been releasing on PC with inexcusable locks for some reason. Deadly Premonition, Metal Gear Rising, Dark Souls. Dark Souls receiving its famous 'fix' to get it working at more than 30fps by one unpaid hacker within 48 hours. The money and time it cost them to go out to an interview to relay their BS excuse as to why they're locking key PC options would've been better spent contracting that guy.

Also remember that resolution and framerate locks affect those even with hardware only capable of performing at those locks. For example you get better responsiveness unlocking the framerate of your game even if your monitor is only capable of 60Hz. Higher resolutions allow for downsampling which has its benefits too. And correct me if I'm wrong but aren't PS4 users going ape for 4K TVs right now? Seems like the dumbest and least business-smart time to be adding locks like this.

K.O.Kiki · 10-03-2017 3:16am

Robert ninja wrote: »

Supporting resolutions and framerates above 1080/60 like other titles have been doing for the last decade isn't much to ask. It's a step back no matter what excuse they have. And their reason wasn't business it was, " experience the game at the highest quality that we think" which doesn't even make sense. It's because they're a Japanese who have been releasing on PC with inexcusable locks for some reason. Deadly Premonition, Metal Gear Rising, Dark Souls. Dark Souls receiving its famous 'fix' to get it working at more than 30fps by one unpaid hacker within 48 hours. The money and time it cost them to go out to an interview to relay their BS excuse as to why they're locking key PC options would've been better spent contracting that guy.

Also remember that resolution and framerate locks affect those even with hardware only capable of performing at those locks. For example you get better responsiveness unlocking the framerate of your game even if your monitor is only capable of 60Hz. Higher resolutions allow for downsampling which has its benefits too. And correct me if I'm wrong but aren't PS4 users going ape for 4K TVs right now? Seems like the dumbest and least business-smart time to be adding locks like this.

PS4 users are going ape for 4K, doesn't mean their console can actually game at that resolution

Evade · 10-03-2017 4:22am

Played it for a bit tonight, it's good so far. I'm only after doing a few missions in the post demo area and I'm wondering how long

9S

will be hanging around.

Grahamer666 · 10-03-2017 8:51am

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

PS4 users are going ape for 4K, doesn't mean their console can actually game at that resolution

I've noticed that a lot of your posts are about how the PS4 can't do native 4K.
PC Master Race wha!!! :pac:

Captain Chaos · 10-03-2017 8:51am

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

PS4 users are going ape for 4K, doesn't mean their console can actually game at that resolution

It's mainly for HDR than 4K. Horizon looks amazing with HDR enabled, it's more than enough reason to get a 4K TV for the PS4. I don't care once its 1080p, I just want my HDR

bugs · 10-03-2017 11:56am

So Argos have 3 copies of this nationwide according to checkargos. That's impressive and I checked as soon as the listing was live this morning. Amazon list it as 1-2 months delivery.
Guess I'll be waiting awhile before picking this up.

Captain Chaos · 10-03-2017 11:59am

bugs wrote: »

So Argos have 3 copies of this nationwide according to checkargos. That's impressive and I checked as soon as the listing was live this morning. Amazon list it as 1-2 months delivery.
Guess I'll be waiting awhile before picking this up.

I ordered it from Amazon Wednesday, shipped yesterday and its in my Parcel Motel locker now.

Must have sold out real fast. Hope this sells well though but in reality there might not have been many copies for launch as the last game didn't do too well.

Actually Amazon have 13 in stock now through 3rd party seller.

10-03-2017 12:09pm

Anyone picked it up on PC yet?

http://www.cdkeys.com/pc/games/nier-automata-pc-steam-cd-key

K.O.Kiki · 10-03-2017 12:18pm

Grahamer666 wrote: »

I've noticed that a lot of your posts are about how the PS4 can't do native 4K.
PC Master Race wha!!! :pac:

It's only sad cos it's true! (I'd struggle to hit 4k30fps with my current rig tbh)

Captain Chaos wrote: »

It's mainly for HDR than 4K. Horizon looks amazing with HDR enabled, it's more than enough reason to get a 4K TV for the PS4. I don't care once its 1080p, I just want my HDR

Careful there; just because a TV has 4K doesn't mean it can also do HDR (that's a separate feature).

Captain Chaos · 10-03-2017 12:30pm

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Careful there; just because a TV has 4K doesn't mean it can also do HDR (that's a separate feature).

I know, and even then some are just HDR10 certified and not Dolby Vision HDR. Too many people falling for cheap 4K sets out there, missing out big time.

PS4 and One S are HDR10 only for time being anyway.

Xenji · 10-03-2017 5:52pm

Looking forward to playing this tomorrow when it arrives at my Parcel Motel, should keep me occupied along with Toukiden 2 till Persona comes out

Evade · 11-03-2017 3:34am

A tip for anyone starting out, save at every opportunity. I've had the game end unexpectedly twice and lost about an hour both times time.

K.O.Kiki · 19-03-2017 4:42am

OMG what even is this gameeee :eek:

So many interesting moments and I'm not even 10hrs into it!

Evade · 19-03-2017 4:51am

It's pretty good alright. I got to the perfect (I think) ending and then did a thing that wiped my save so I'm on my way there again.

If you use a spear as the heavy attack and a large sword as the light attack the light-heavy-light-light combo is interesting.

21-03-2017 2:52pm

All the bad reviews on steam are stating performance issues. I'll take that as a positive overall. The game itself seems good.

Retr0gamer · 21-03-2017 3:07pm

The game is fantastic but my 1070 is chugging slightly at 1440p and I have to go through a variety of hoops and use borderless windows app to get it working full screen on my 21:9 screen.

Hope a patch c sorts it out because it really shouldn't be struggling on a 1070.

Cina · 21-03-2017 3:21pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

The game is fantastic but my 1070 is chugging slightly at 1440p and I have to go through a variety of hoops and use borderless windows app to get it working full screen on my 21:9 screen.

Hope a patch c sorts it out because it really shouldn't be struggling on a 1070.

Feck... that's not good, I've a 970 and a 1440p screen. Are you running it on Ultra?

Retr0gamer · 21-03-2017 4:37pm

Cina wrote: »

Feck... that's not good, I've a 970 and a 1440p screen. Are you running it on Ultra?

The only options I saw were AA and texture filtering. Had them up full but knocked them back a notch. Still a bit chuggy though. I think it's actually improper frame pacing rather than slow down as it's always there. Response feels fine but you can see were it judders when there's no action.

Andrew76 · 21-03-2017 5:00pm

I plan on picking this up at some point but is there much variety in the locations for those of you playing it? I've only watched a few videos which show the starting area.

Nier Automata

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