Arlene Foster and the RHI scandal

A Little Pony · 03-03-2017 06:01PM

twinytwo wrote: »

Foster gone to the second count... id give anything to see her not get her seat.

The woman should resign in absolute shame. Horrific leader and is not moving the DUP forward by strengthening the DUP vote. I'll be asking my local MP to ask her to resign or hopefully the DUP rounds on her. The bigger issue is more important than her and I'm sure she would agree herself.

FrancieBrady · 03-03-2017 06:13PM

A Little Pony wrote: »

lol, anytime Unionism is the top party like the DUP it must be sectarian. It exists, yes, but you don't hear Sinn Fein opponents saying that about Sinn Fein if they win seats. West Belfast would vote for a pony with a SF badge on it, why can't East Belfast?

SF unseated a PBP (a poll topper last time round) and Alex Atwood SDLP lost a seat this time.

Clearly you are completely wrong about what West Belfast votes for.

FrancieBrady · 03-03-2017 06:14PM

A Little Pony wrote: »

The woman should resign in absolute shame. Horrific leader and is not moving the DUP forward by strengthening the DUP vote. I'll be asking my local MP to ask her to resign or hopefully the DUP rounds on her. The bigger issue is more important than her and I'm sure she would agree herself.

Why would they care what 'you' say, you didn't vote. You do get the idea of 'standing for election'?

Conservative · 03-03-2017 06:17PM

RicePat wrote: »

Conservative wrote: »

Great to see such a high turnout with a new face youthful fronting SF (my username will give it away but not a supporter). Congratulations to her.

UUP/SDLP pact seems to have backfired big time. Will be a long time before the north moves to the middle ground.

I dont get this "middle ground" cliche. SF went above and beyond to try and make the Assembly work. They agreed to a union flag over Belfast City Hall when they could have pulled it down altogether, they met the English Queen, they compromised on welfare reform rather than let the Assembly collapse.
After the last election the first actions of DUP Ministers were to change a fenian sounding name on a boat and reintroduce academic selection. The first actions of SF Ministers were all social issues, Scrapping the DUP's gay blood ban, ringfencing an extra £90m for health and investing an extra £10m in rural road maintenance.
What exactly is "extreme" about all this?

You are showing your bias here.

Where did I mention the word "extreme".?

My first comment congratulated Michelle O'Neill on the great gains she has made for SF? I have great respect for MMcG.

When they stop selling sectarian material on their website they can begin to accuse others of sectarianism.

Sinn Fein is not progressive
.

twinytwo · 03-03-2017 06:19PM

1/3 of the seats counted - SF 14 - DUP 8 - long way to go but could get interesting.

A Little Pony · 03-03-2017 06:24PM

Direct Rule is coming, so this is all irrelevant.

FrancieBrady · 03-03-2017 06:28PM

The difference in percentage share of the first preference vote is predicted to be down to 1%.

Says it all about Arlene's leadership.

Conservative · 03-03-2017 06:32PM

A Little Pony wrote: »

Direct Rule is coming, so this is all irrelevant.

As much as people in the south are apathetic to NI, the "British" are not even aware of its existence.

May well be worth it.

FrancieBrady · 03-03-2017 06:35PM

Conservative wrote: »

As much as people in the south are apathetic to NI, the "British" are not even aware of its existence.

May well be worth it.

Theresa May must be delighted. All the cuts she will have to make and no executive to deal with. All because Arlene would not stand aside for a few weeks. Ouch!

RicePat · 03-03-2017 07:14PM

A Little Pony wrote: »

lol, anytime Unionism is the top party like the DUP it must be sectarian. It exists, yes, but you don't hear Sinn Fein opponents saying that about Sinn Fein if they win seats. West Belfast would vote for a pony with a SF badge on it, why can't East Belfast?

I was referring to
A) The DUP going around telling people that the Brexit referendum was a "de facto border poll"

The fact that they have been embroiled in corruption for years now and every time they go to the electorate they dont talk about policies, they beat the sectarian drum, loudly and proudly.

They are undoubtedly a sectarian party, the sad part is that certain people, a huge amount of certain people, are still susceptible to that

blanch152 · 03-03-2017 07:19PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

SF unseated a PBP (a poll topper last time round) and Alex Atwood SDLP lost a seat this time.

Clearly you are completely wrong about what West Belfast votes for.

It is very disappointing to see middle ground MLAs like Atwood and the PBP lose out to the extremes of SF. Mixed day for Northern Ireland as one extreme party loses seats and votes, if only the other one could lose them too.

RicePat · 03-03-2017 07:24PM

Conservative wrote: »

You are showing your bias here.

Where did I mention the word "extreme".?

My first comment congratulated Michelle O'Neill on the great gains she has made for SF? I have great respect for MMcG.

When they stop selling sectarian material on their website they can begin to accuse others of sectarianism.

Sinn Fein is not progressive
.

I'd love you to show me some of this "sectarian material." Bar a few IRA t-shirts there's nothing even questionable on it and you'd be hard pressed to argue that they were sectarian.

In terms of every other major party in the north they are miles ahead on marriage equality, lgbt rights, reproductive rights, anti-austerity issues, travellers rights. I mean, how can you actually argue, especially within the context of the north, that they arent progressive?? Somebody is certainly showing their bias here

RicePat · 03-03-2017 07:27PM

blanch152 wrote: »

It is very disappointing to see middle ground MLAs like Atwood and the PBP lose out to the extremes of SF. Mixed day for Northern Ireland as one extreme party loses seats and votes, if only the other one could lose them too.

Like I said in post 391, explain this "middle ground" and "extreme" nonsense. It's an empty blurb, a meaningless cliche.

FrancieBrady · 03-03-2017 07:36PM

blanch152 wrote: »

It is very disappointing to see middle ground MLAs like Atwood and the PBP lose out to the extremes of SF. Mixed day for Northern Ireland as one extreme party loses seats and votes, if only the other one could lose them too.

Analyse the vote, Atwood lost out because more people came out not less.
That is a good thing even if you don't like who got elected.

twinytwo · 03-03-2017 07:39PM

A Little Pony wrote: »

The woman should resign in absolute shame. Horrific leader and is not moving the DUP forward by strengthening the DUP vote. I'll be asking my local MP to ask her to resign or hopefully the DUP rounds on her. The bigger issue is more important than her and I'm sure she would agree herself.

At least re-election of muppets and gombeens is not solely a republic issue...
Foster retains her seat. Just goes to show you people never learn

35 seats down -SF 15 -DUP 9

FrancieBrady · 03-03-2017 09:08PM

Mike Nesbitt resigns. Wrong leader.

RicePat · 03-03-2017 09:13PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Mike Nesbitt resigns. Wrong leader.

Liberal(ish) leader of a conservative party. Was never going to work. Natural successor would have been Danny Kennedy but he got the chop as well.

Seth Brundle · 03-03-2017 09:13PM

Irish Indo live blog reporting that Foster is elected.

FrancieBrady · 03-03-2017 09:16PM

kbannon wrote: »

Irish Indo live blog reporting that Foster is elected.

She was elected a good while ago. Down to the last seat now and it looks like SF are going to take it from lord Morrow DUP. Big result for SF if they do that.

RicePat · 03-03-2017 09:16PM

kbannon wrote: »

Irish Indo live blog reporting that Foster is elected.

She was 2000 over the quota last time, didnt even reach it this time and looks like her second candidate wont get elected either.
The DUP will smile for the cameras but there are bound to be questions behind the scenes about her leadership. She was the the single biggest vote winner for sinn fein and has presided over unionism losing their majority in the assembly for the first time since partition.

FrancieBrady · 03-03-2017 09:37PM

DUP lose the last seat to SF in Fermanagh South Tyrone.

FrancieBrady · 03-03-2017 10:02PM

McCausland gone too. Tough day for the DUP. It will be back to the arrogance now. In marked contrast to Nesbitt.

LENNY86 · 03-03-2017 10:37PM

DUP petition of concern is now gone isnt it.

LENNY86 · 03-03-2017 10:37PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

DUP lose the last seat to SF in Fermanagh South Tyrone.

Huge coup for the shinners, a few days after Bobby started the strike and the seat he won while fasting.

blanch152 · 03-03-2017 10:40PM

RicePat wrote: »

I'd love you to show me some of this "sectarian material." Bar a few IRA t-shirts there's nothing even questionable on it and you'd be hard pressed to argue that they were sectarian.

In terms of every other major party in the north they are miles ahead on marriage equality, lgbt rights, reproductive rights, anti-austerity issues, travellers rights. I mean, how can you actually argue, especially within the context of the north, that they arent progressive?? Somebody is certainly showing their bias here

IRA t-shirts are not sectarian?

I have heard it all now.

A Little Pony · 03-03-2017 10:44PM

I don't think a woman can lead Unionism. Hope Arlene Foster stands down, get Ian Paisley Jr to be leader.

LENNY86 · 03-03-2017 10:45PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

DUP lose the last seat to SF in Fermanagh South Tyrone.

blanch152 wrote: »

IRA t-shirts are not sectarian?

I have heard it all now.

How is it secterian to remember the IRAs sacrifices throughout the struggle?
Did you remember the 1916 centenary?

RicePat · 03-03-2017 10:45PM

blanch152 wrote: »

IRA t-shirts are not sectarian?

I have heard it all now.

No more sectarian than a Brit Army t-shirt.

FrancieBrady · 03-03-2017 10:55PM

Everyone is being very polite as is typical on an election night. But it has been a traumatic day for unionism that will have implications.
Arlene scooting away and not talking to the BBC is significant. The bunker mentality will grow.

A Little Pony · 03-03-2017 11:12PM

She scooted away because she is going to get taken apart within the DUP and wider Unionism.

Arlene Foster and the RHI scandal

Comments