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Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

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  • #1442
    deepimpact
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭deepimpact


    Got the car back before 6 today, apparently the VIN wasn't in the batch for the AV recall, so there was no need to change out the head unit. It is in the VIN range for the brake issue that some EV owners have reported, I didn't realise that it affected the hybrid too.

    I also put my name down for the 40kWh EV whenever it becomes available :D


  • #1443
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,764 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Have you the VIN ranges for the recalls or if not, is there a chance you can get them from your dealer? Would be much appreciated!

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • #1444
    deepimpact
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭deepimpact


    I'll give it a shot. No harm in asking anyway.


  • #1445
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,764 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Cheers man!

    BTW I found a VIN decoder but it is clearly not yet fully setup for the Ioniq. Interesting to have a look though :)

    VIN Decoder Linky

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • #1446
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,764 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Especially for Mad_Lad - this is the way forward, not an app on a phone, which is a slow and outdated form of automation / control.

    I've Alexa myself and it was dead handy for all the Christmas tree lights throughout the house and outside: "Alexa, lights off" did the trick at night instead of unplugging 10 different yokes like we did before.

    For the Ioniq:

    ioniq-3_Amazon_Alexa_Hyundai-604x270.jpg

    Owner: “Alexa, ask Blue Link to start charging my Ioniq.”
    Alexa: “Request for remote charging your Ioniq has been sent.”

    Owner: “Alexa, tell Blue Link to start my car at 80 degrees.”
    Alexa: “Request for remote starting your car with climate control has been sent.”

    Owner: “Alexa, ask Blue Link to lock my Santa Fe.”
    Alexa: “Request for remote locking your Santa Fe has been sent.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgHPk5dWg7Q

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



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  • #1447
    cros13
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 971 ✭✭✭cros13


    *cough* from last october... BMW released Alexa "skill" so that Amazon Echo can talk to i3:
    https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/usa/article/detail/T0264616EN_US/bmw-connected-%E2%80%93-your-personal-mobility-companion-gets-an-important-update-plus-availability-for-alexa

    I have an echo dot in the i3 I use to command smartthings back at home (I can access smartthings from the BMW smarthings app in iDrive but it only supports scenes not individual devices). It's really handy because the car echo dot relays the command to smartthings to one of the echos at home which sends the command to the smart home device over the local network.

    Hyundai has copied BMW as well in offering a IFTTT service.

    ....the first step to recovery is admitting I'm a bleeding edge early adopter, right?

    Screenshot_20170302_235427.png


  • #1448
    n97 mini
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,990 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    unkel wrote: »
    Especially for Mad_Lad - this is the way forward, not an app on a phone, which is a slow and outdated form of automation / control.

    Dunno about that. Everyone has a mobile. Very few have Alexa, and that ratio is not going to improve much...

    "Proprietary voice recognition system which virtually no one has: ask my lucky to be supported car to do something useful"


  • #1449
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,764 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    cros13 wrote: »
    *cough* from last october... BMW released Alexa "skill"

    Well the Hyundai Alexa skill was from last November, so they were hardly very far behind :p
    cros13 wrote: »
    I have an echo dot in the i3 I use to command smartthings back at home (I can access smartthings from the BMW smarthings app in iDrive

    Jaysus, I'd never have thought of doing that. I take it the BMW has a built in sim card and you have a data subscription? Ioniq doesn't have that, but it does have wifi (I think?) and you can use your smartphone as an access point. That way the Ioniq updates the real time traffic alerts etc.

    I think I'll sit back and relax and wait till someone else has done all the hard work with an Ioniq before sticking an Echo Dot in my car though :D

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • #1450
    DrPhilG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,404 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Jakey Rolling wrote: »
    My only experience of this was was in Winnipeg, where the guy from our local office had his ICE rigged so that he could start it remotely, with the doors still locked. May be a common thing there? Kinda handy when its -25C outside.

    "Command Start".

    My best friend lives in Winterpeg too and it is quite common. In the summer you want to start the car and the ac to cool it, and in the winter you want it defrosted and warm.

    They also tend to plug in their ICE cars at night to keep them from freezing solid, the oil and fuel etc would freeze when it's -30, -40 or -mytesticles


  • #1451
    bk
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,122 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    n97 mini wrote: »
    Dunno about that. Everyone has a mobile. Very few have Alexa, and that ratio is not going to improve much...

    "Proprietary voice recognition system which virtually no one has: ask my lucky to be supported car to do something useful"

    In fairness I doubt anyone who can afford a €30k car can't also afford €50 for an echo dot!

    Maybe they could even throw one in for free. The dot that is! :D

    Also they also support Google Home / Google Assistant now:

    https://androidcommunity.com/hyundais-blue-link-agent-starts-working-with-the-google-assistant-20170104/

    And note Google just announced a few days ago that they are going to roll Google Assistant out to most Android phones over the next few months.

    Finally if you don't want to use voice, then you could use the Google Assistant in the Google Allo app, it is purely text based.

    If they launch support for IFTTT soon, then it would work with loads of IFTTT apps, widgets and buttons on your phone.

    What it looks like they have done is actually build a pretty solid foundation with their Blue Link API. THey and other third parties can then integrate it into lots of different apps and devices, pretty damn cool.


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  • #1452
    stesaurus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭stesaurus


    unkel wrote: »
    Well the Hyundai Alexa skill was from last November, so they were hardly very far behind :p



    Jaysus, I'd never have thought of doing that. I take it the BMW has a built in sim card and you have a data subscription? Ioniq doesn't have that, but it does have wifi (I think?) and you can use your smartphone as an access point. That way the Ioniq updates the real time traffic alerts etc.

    I think I'll sit back and relax and wait till someone else has done all the hard work with an Ioniq before sticking an Echo Dot in my car though :D

    Ioniq doesn't have a sim? Even the Leaf has one I think.

    i3 has it's own paid for data plan. Think Cros13 has turned his into a mobile hotspot essentially.

    There was someone on FB group tinkering around with building up a list of commands for the ioniq in order to create an app essentially. So eventually if Hyundai don't provide it someone else will


  • #1453
    n97 mini
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,990 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    bk wrote: »
    In fairness I doubt anyone who can afford a €30k car can't also afford €50 for an echo dot!

    Why would you buy something that's permanently stuck to a socket in your house? Your mobile phone goes everywhere, and you already have one!


  • #1454
    Soarer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,366 ✭✭✭Soarer


    unkel wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgHPk5dWg7Q

    Bloody women.

    30 degrees and she still wears a hat, coat, scarf, and gloves!


  • #1455
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,916 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Its Farenheit, -1.5C. America.


  • #1456
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,764 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    n97 mini wrote: »
    Why would you buy something that's permanently stuck to a socket in your house?

    Or to your car ;)

    Kids would love to have an Echo dot in the car. I'll look into it when I get the Ioniq. I've unlimited data on my phone these days, so surely some sort of solution between the Ioniq, my phone and the Echo dot should be feasible. If only for the Ioniq to automatically have real time traffic info

    On the one hand I find it silly that the Ioniq doesn't have a SIM, on the other hand I could do without the massive annual bill my best mate has because his data subscription in his brand new BMW. I've enough bills to pay as it is.

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • #1457
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,708 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I still do not want to talk to anything to send simple commands to activate heat or charging if it's not convenient to do so such as when in a public place, having to sending voice commands would be pure retarded and I'm sure rather annoying for others around me, surely there is an app option ? I also like having a website to use because I use the laptop in work.


  • #1458
    bk
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,122 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    n97 mini wrote: »
    Why would you buy something that's permanently stuck to a socket in your house? Your mobile phone goes everywhere, and you already have one!

    I have both a Google Home and Amazon Echo.

    In my experience, they are vastly more convenient to use to control internet connected devices such as lights, heating, TV, etc. and yes EV's now too, then your phone.

    Just a moment ago I turned on my heating by saying:
    "Hey Google, turn on heat"

    Much easier then pulling the phone out of my pocket, unlocking it, look for the heating control app, launch the app, wait for it to load, turn on the heat.

    It is one of those sort of things that once you used it, you realise how much more convenient it is and you never want to go back to the old way.

    When smart phones first came out, I often heard people say similar things. Why buy an expensive smart phone, when your cheap Nokia can just as easily make calls and texts and has much better battery life. Well now look where we are!

    Ten years from now, I suspect such voice assistants will be almost as ubiquitous.


  • #1459
    cros13
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 971 ✭✭✭cros13


    bk wrote: »
    I have both a Google Home and Amazon Echo.

    I'm waiting for nvidia to launch the Spot for google home. I have four Shields in the house and I find Google's voice recognition a lot better than Amazons. Google has the advantage of being more conversational.

    One of the big EV advantages is the quiet cabin for these devices to listen in. There is no way my echo dot would work in an ICE.


  • #1460
    bk
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,122 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I still do not want to talk to anything to send simple commands to activate heat or charging if it's not convenient to do so such as when in a public place, having to sending voice commands would be pure retarded and I'm sure rather annoying for others around me, surely there is an app option ? I also like having a website to use because I use the laptop in work.

    Of course it makes sense to have multiple options. 90% of the time * I use voice to control lights, heat, etc. while at home. However I still use the apps about 10% of the time, mostly when I'm away from home, in public as you say.

    And as I mentioned above, Google's Assistant is also available via text only in Allo.

    Also as I mentioned above, Hyundai seem to have a really good API, so as long as it is licensed in a fair way, then it would be very easy for a third party to create an app for it if Hyundai don't.

    This is similar to Philips Hue smart lighting system. Philips has a fantastic open API, as a result, in addition to the official Hue app, there are dozens of great third party apps and it is widely integrated with Google Home, Alexa, IFTTT, Yonomi, Spotify, smartthings, Nest, Harmony, etc.

    * Actually it is about 40% physical controls, 50% voice control and 10% app control.


  • #1461
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,708 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yeah that's all well and good when your at home or in private but in not really practical in public or in a noisy environment.


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  • #1462
    bk
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,122 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    cros13 wrote: »
    I'm waiting for nvidia to launch the Spot for google home. I have four Shields in the house and I find Google's voice recognition a lot better than Amazons. Google has the advantage of being more conversational.

    Yup I agree totally. I've got a Shield too and I'm waiting for the spot too, should allow me to extend Google Assistant into extra rooms cheaply.


  • #1463
    bk
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,122 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Yeah that's all well and good when your at home or in private but in not really practical in public or in a noisy environment.

    Read my last post, I've dealt with that twice already!


  • #1464
    bk
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,122 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    BTW for anyone interested in Home Automation stuff, Echo, Google Home, etc. Then you should check out the Home Automation forum:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1777


  • #1465
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,708 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bk wrote: »
    Of course it makes sense to have multiple options.

    Yeah but having voice only isn't a multiple or always convenient option !


  • #1466
    bk
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,122 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    bk wrote: »
    This is similar to Philips Hue smart lighting system. Philips has a fantastic open API, as a result, in addition to the official Hue app, there are dozens of great third party apps and it is widely integrated with Google Home, Alexa, IFTTT, Yonomi, Spotify, smartthings, Nest, Harmony, etc.

    BTW I forgot to add to this, that the difference between Hue and Hyundai Blue Link is that Hue has been around for years, so developers have had plenty of time to build apps and new integrations. Where as Blue Link is only out a month or two, so obviously it will take a few months for the same amount of apps and integrations to be developed.

    I'm sure they are coming, but people have to be patient.

    But what I would like to point out is that it looks like Hyundai are building a much more solid foundation. It might take a little longer for apps to come, but it should end up with a far richer and impressive ecosystem built around their cars.

    I'm much more impressed with this approach then Nissans approach of a locked down app and no public API. It might mean the app is available quicker * but unless they change, it would also mean a far less diverse ecosystem.

    * A reminder that the Leaf is over 5 years old, whilst the Ioniq is just out.

    Nissan focused on building an app, with a locked down API. While instead, Hyundai seem to be focused on building a public API first, with many apps to follow.

    As a developer myself, I'm much more impressed with Hyundai's approach.


  • #1467
    bk
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,122 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Yeah but having voice only isn't a multiple or always convenient option !

    Seriously dude, can you not read! For the third time:

    It isn't voice only, Google Assistant in Allo is TEXT. As in you type the commands, no voice!

    And Hyundai's API seems to be public so apps will definitely be coming soon.


  • #1468
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,708 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bk wrote: »
    Seriously dude, can you not read! For the third time:

    It isn't voice only, Google Assistant in Allo is TEXT. As in you type the commands, no voice!

    And Hyundai's API seems to be public so apps will definitely be coming soon.

    "Dude" ? :)


  • #1469
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,916 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    When Mad Lad gets some thing into his head, it can be hard to shift!!!

    You might have the answer. Repeat 3 times.


  • #1470
    Soarer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,366 ✭✭✭Soarer


    Water John wrote: »
    Its Farenheit, -1.5C. America.

    I was talking about in the car. Don't think even Alexa can set the temperature outside.


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  • #1471
    isnottheword
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 414 ✭✭✭isnottheword


    bk wrote: »
    I'm much more impressed with this approach then Nissans approach of a locked down app and no public API. It might mean the app is available quicker * but unless they change, it would also mean a far less diverse ecosystem.

    * A reminder that the Leaf is over 5 years old, whilst the Ioniq is just out.

    Nissan focused on building an app, with a locked down API. While instead, Hyundai seem to be focused on building a public API first, with many apps to follow.

    As a developer myself, I'm much more impressed with Hyundai's approach.

    Can't argue with what you've said. However, people have to bear in mind product life cycles. Nissan were first mover in the market - and will sweat their existing production infrastructure to try and recoup a return on the Leaf.

    Due to competition in the marketplace, that leaves them currently off the pace. Hyundai's offering would seem to be much more progressive. However, things go in cycles. That's the situation today. Perhaps Nissan will get their mojo back and remain competitive by way of the next iteration or a brand new platform. Then again, perhaps they won't - OR - it could be another market entrant takes pole position, who knows....

    In rapidly developing markets, who knows what flavour of the month will be on the cards next...


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