Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

KCross · 21-02-2017 04:35PM

cros13 wrote: »

Those efacec rapids only output 44kW peak however the i3 and Leaf only hit that peak rate for around 5 minutes in the middle of the battery.
The Ioniq maxes them out for a longer period, pulling 40kW+ for up to 15 minutes.

Mad_Lads screenshot above shows it pulling 64kW!? Thats why Im asking how thats possible?

bk · 21-02-2017 04:43PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Are those on the fence closer to the other side now ?

Very close, it is certainly looking very impressive. It looks like you could make it down to Cork with just one charge and not too much crawling.

It gives me hope that we should be there in one to two years.

A few things on this car stand out to me from your and others reviews, that show us it being more refined and next gen then the Leaf and which really impress me:

- The rapid and more constant charging speed
- The greater efficiency, particularly at close to motorway speeds (due to better drag coefficient I assume).
- The more realistic distance left estimate.
- The more regular looks of the car.

Put a bigger battery in with all of the above and we have a winner IMO.

I have to say it makes me excited again about the EV future of cars

cros13 · 21-02-2017 04:49PM

KCross wrote: »

Mad_Lads screenshot above shows it pulling 64kW!? Thats why Im asking how thats possible?

Was there a vehicle charging from AC?

KCross · 21-02-2017 05:01PM

cros13 wrote: »

Was there a vehicle charging from AC?

24mins to pull 23kWh according to the final output on the screen for his session.... thats averaging over 60kW's for the entire session! Thats a serious bump in speed. Twice what any Leaf would do.

Maybe eCars dont have CCS restricted like ChaDeMo and the Ioniq is the first car that isnt self-restricting as much. Maybe we should stay quiet before eCars limit it!

unkel · 21-02-2017 05:23PM

Water John wrote: »

Hope you put on Lordi and Slipknot to check out the stereo.

I tried some reasonably well known German industrial metal. That good enough?

DrPhilG · 21-02-2017 05:29PM

Just read on a Facebook post that with the Ioniq, it is the car that locks the cable on a fast charge.

That's a serious pain if so. At least with a Leaf if someone plugs in and abandons for hours the chademo will release when its complete.

unkel · 21-02-2017 05:36PM

DrPhilG wrote: »

That's a serious pain if so. At least with a Leaf

It is for a Leaf owner. Not for an Ioniq owner :pac:

But if charging would only take me 15 minutes typically (what from 20-70% or so), I probably wouldn't go anywhere myself. Just wait in the car. And drive off the second I have enough juice.

unkel · 21-02-2017 07:22PM

It's starting to look like the Ioniq is now the best selling full EV in many European countries. Particularly in the Nordics and the Netherlands. That is in numbers ordered though. Deliveries are delayed everywhere

DrPhilG · 21-02-2017 07:30PM

unkel wrote: »

It is for a Leaf owner. Not for an Ioniq owner :pac:

But if charging would only take me 15 minutes typically (what from 20-70% or so), I probably wouldn't go anywhere myself. Just wait in the car. And drive off the second I have enough juice.

Not sure how it's more of an issue for a Leaf owner? Quite the opposite.

My point is that there are a lot of inconsiderate assholes around who leave their cars at fast chargers long past the end of the charge. Doesn't matter if it's a Leaf that needs 35 minutes or an Ioniq that only needs 20. There are people who dump their cars at FCPs for hours.

With the Leaf, Outlander etc the chademo cable will unlock once the charge ends meaning that the next user can use the charger provided they can reach.

With a car where the lock is on the car end rather than the charger then the next person is at the mercy of the original asshole.

21-02-2017 08:04PM

cros13 wrote: »

Was there a vehicle charging from AC?

No, there's a separate meter for AC.

21-02-2017 08:18PM

KCross wrote: »

24mins to pull 23kWh according to the final output on the screen for his session.... thats averaging over 60kW's for the entire session! Thats a serious bump in speed. Twice what any Leaf would do.

Maybe eCars dont have CCS restricted like ChaDeMo and the Ioniq is the first car that isnt self-restricting as much. Maybe we should stay quiet before eCars limit it!

Compared to the Leaf 24 Kwh it's amazing.

Here's the leaf 24 Kwh with a warm battery charging at 34 Kw around 60%, I can't find a charge graph of the complete charge at the moment.

Charger power shown as - 34.6 Kw, a cold battery will be slower. It would be interesting to see how fast the Ioniq charges in a cold spell.

A 30 Kwh Leaf will charge at about 45 Kw until about 80%.

21-02-2017 08:18PM

Was it a good idea to merge and bury my thread into this one ? that kind of annoyed me , not impressed !

unkel · 21-02-2017 08:23PM

It's mainly about the Ioniq, so it's probably helpful for someone searching to get all the relevant info / experiences in the one thread. Even though many of us do go off topic in several threads in this forum. I'm guilty of that myself. Seems to be the nature of the forum

21-02-2017 08:24PM

Sometimes it's better to start fresh rather than someone having to read through 83 pages ?

I don't like my threads being stolen.......

unkel · 21-02-2017 09:56PM

Was just made aware of a very handy feature of the Ioniq EV. Every 72 hours the car automatically checks the condition of the auxiliary battery. If needs be, it tops this auxiliary battery up from the main battery (for a maximum of 30 days not driving it). So never a flat battery even if you don't touch the car for weeks on end. Nice!

This is switched on as a default, but can be switched off. Might explain why someone in here was greeted by a flat battery Ioniq when they went for a test drive?

Fiery mutant · 21-02-2017 10:03PM

DrPhilG wrote: »

Just read on a Facebook post that with the Ioniq, it is the car that locks the cable on a fast charge.

That's a serious pain if so. At least with a Leaf if someone plugs in and abandons for hours the chademo will release when its complete.

You can set the Ioniq to auto release the lock when it's fully charged, so if you are at a public charge point you shouldn't be inconveniencing anyone.

In saying that, people shouldn't just abandon their car at a charge point anyway.

KCross · 21-02-2017 10:25PM

unkel wrote: »

Was just made aware of a very handy feature of the Ioniq EV. Every 72 hours the car automatically checks the condition of the auxiliary battery. If needs be, it tops this auxiliary battery up from the main battery (for a maximum of 30 days not driving it). So never a flat battery even if you don't touch the car for weeks on end. Nice!

This is switched on as a default, but can be switched off. Might explain why someone in here was greeted by a flat battery Ioniq when they went for a test drive?

I think thats a standard enough EV feature. The Leaf does it too although not configurable on the Leaf.

If you think about it, it has to be a feature of every EV as they dont have alternators, so that battery topup has to come from somewhere otherwise it would be dead pretty quick.

unkel · 21-02-2017 10:32PM

Funny though that several people here have mentioned flat batteries when they were going to go for a test drive (Ioniq, Leaf, even others?). I guess the capacity of the aux battery in an EV is very small to start with. No need for big amps to get an ICE started

21-02-2017 10:54PM

Seriously, I'm still pissed that my Thread can be just destroyed like that Unkel there was no justification for it.

21-02-2017 10:55PM

I forgot to mention that I got the timer to set for off peak hours, you have to set both weekdays and "weekend" , unreal !

unkel · 21-02-2017 10:57PM

Looks like the ship with Ioniqs destined for the UK (and presumably for Ireland too) has sailed a while back and is due to dock in the UK on 19th March.

unkel · 21-02-2017 10:58PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I forgot to mention that I got the timer to set for off peak hours, you have to set both weekdays and "weekend" , unreal !

Maybe in some markets they have lower price rates at the weekend?

n97 mini · 21-02-2017 11:28PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Seriously, I'm still pissed that my Thread can be just destroyed like that Unkel there was no justification for it.

Seems to have been merged into an existing thread? Not sure which one, was it this one (pita searching on the phone). But yeah not helpful. Wonder will whoever merged it be so kind as to split it out again. It's a Leaf vs Ioniq thread which makes it unique.

22-02-2017 10:10AM

n97 mini wrote: »

Seems to have been merged into an existing thread? Not sure which one, was it this one (pita searching on the phone). But yeah not helpful. Wonder will whoever merged it be so kind as to split it out again. It's a Leaf vs Ioniq thread which makes it unique.

Yes my thread was merged with this one and I find it unacceptable because if I create a separate thread about something with my own actual experience then it should be separate to a general thread about the car.

80 odd pages of a thread to crawl through to get an an actual comparison from someone who has owned a Leaf for 2 years is not helpful at all.

Please whoever destroyed my thread put it back !!!!

22-02-2017 10:42AM

I was impressed that the Ioniq comes with a 10 amp portable EVSE (AKA Granny Cable).

When I dropped the Ioniq back yesterday the salesman was less than enthusiastic about selling it. I bet the reason they're even in Irish dealers is because Hyundai may have told them they must sell it ?

I also got the impression that when a customer comes in that they will be showing them the diesels first unless someone specifically asks about the Ioniq I bet they're not going to mention it......

All he could do really was tell me about the depreciation in the Leaf so I knew he wasn't interested and "you're doing too much mileage" bla bla

I've 15,460 left on the Leaf, so we'll se what he comes back with but I was thinking that it might be better to cash out now rather than wait until January, however I think better will be available in January and possibly the new Leaf.

22-02-2017 10:44AM

I'd like to caution people about the Lane keep assist thing or whatever they call it, it simply can't be trusted, many times it tried to steer me into the shoulder or across the centre line on the Motorway.

It's there simply to assist if you take your eye off the ball for a second but even then it could kill you !!!

unkel · 22-02-2017 10:49AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I was impressed that the Ioniq comes with a 10 amp portable EVSE (AKA Granny Cable).

Does the Leaf not come with a Granny cable as standard? That seems very mean. Never mind any of the gimmicks, you need a bloody Granny cable in an EV! Madness to go anywhere without one...

Deleted User wrote: »

I'd like to caution people about the Lane keep assist thing or whatever they call it, it simply can't be trusted, many times it tried to steer me into the shoulder or across the centre line on the Motorway.

It's there simply to assist if you take your eye off the ball for a second but even then it could kill you !!!

As soon as you take your hands off the wheel for a couple of seconds it will start beeping the Bejaysis anyway. Not sure about the helpfulness of the lane assist feature. Maybe the hardware is needed for some future software enhancements towards more useful / safer "autopilot" features

positron · 22-02-2017 10:52AM

Hyundai are working on a fully self-driving version of Ioniq similar to Tesla - not sure when we would see that on roads perhaps by 2020, again, it might be a while before laws allow that on our roads.

https://www.wired.com/2017/01/take-spin-hyundais-ioniq-driverless-car-masses/
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3154847/car-tech/taking-a-ride-in-hyundais-ioniq-autonomous-car.html

DrPhilG · 22-02-2017 11:30AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

When I dropped the Ioniq back yesterday the salesman was less than enthusiastic about selling it.

I had the same experience. I didn't have a test drive, just went into the showroom and spent 5 minutes examining the car inside and out, then walked out the door without so much as an acknowledgement.

jca · 22-02-2017 11:49AM

DrPhilG wrote: »

I had the same experience. I didn't have a test drive, just went into the showroom and spent 5 minutes examining the car inside and out, then walked out the door without so much as an acknowledgement.

Why would that be? Are they over stocked with diesels? I went to look at two i40's at two different dealers and found the salesmen very rude and disinterested.

Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

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