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All-new Peugeot 5008 SUV

  • 09-09-2016 1:59pm
    #1
    Doodah7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭


    Pictures and write up here but I think this is a fantastic looking seven-seater. A complete redesign from the previous version. So much so that I'm surprised that they called it a 5008.

    It will also include a fold-up electric bike that is stored in a slot in the boot!!

    It will be interesting to see how much it is here.

    More here:
    http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/motors/peugeot-s-5008-becomes-an-suv-1.2782809


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Comments

  • #2
    SmithySeller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭SmithySeller


    Interestingly I'll be changing my current 5008 next year when 3 years old. I had my eye on a Sorento. However, just recently I was given a 7 Seater X-Trail on hols, and although smaller than the Sorento this had me questioning whether it was a good idea. The X-Trail was OK up to a point and that's being kind. Big issues were second row unable to accommodate 3 seats, and 1 was a high back booster with the other being a booster cushion. Access to the 3rd row was woeful, I couldn't fit to buckle the belt for my daughter who at 6 years old moaned about being cramped! It was a joy to get back into my 5008 upon return. I now know the difference between light steering and lifeless steering!
    Anyhow, I realise the value now of three individual seats in the second row, something this new 5008 SUV will have over its competitors. I certainly will have a look when launched!


  • #3
    Stallingrad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,189 ✭✭✭Stallingrad


    Funny how the Kodiaq was leaked to within an inch of its life, but this pops up with no pre-launch hype what so ever. Striking looking car, I admire that the French are re-discovering their mojo.


  • #4
    NIMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,987 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Stealing a few lines from the Range Rover Evoque?


  • #5
    shietpilot
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭shietpilot


    The 130bhp 1.2-litre PureTech petrol unit is rated at just 117g/km with a six-speed manual gearbox (120g/km in six-speed auto form), while the 165bhp 1.6 PureTech is offered in six-speed auto form only, rated at 133g/km.

    Diesel fans can choose between 1.6 and 2.0-litre BlueHDi engines. Cleanest of the lot is the 106g/km 1.6 BlueHDi 100 in five-speed manual guise, while the 1.6 Blue HDi 120 are rated at 108g/km in six-speed manual form or 112g/km as a six-speed auto. The 2.0 BlueHDi comes in 150bhp six-speed manual form (118g/km) or 180bhp six-speed auto form (124g/km).

    Quite small power for an SUV I have to say, unless you go for the 2 litre diesel!


  • #6
    grogi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    shietpilot wrote: »
    Quite small power for an SUV I have to say, unless you go for the 2 litre diesel!

    The newest PSA platform is very light. C4 Picasso weights less than much smaller C3 Picasso...


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  • #7
    SmithySeller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭SmithySeller


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Stealing a few lines from the Range Rover Evoque?

    Actually from a side profile I was thinking it looks exactly the Disco Sport!

    As for power, its the 2Ltr Auto that would interest me. Light on the CO2's so should keep the price fairly competitive. Its the CO2's that is killing sales of the Auto Sorento, Santa Fe etc.


  • #8
    gerfmurphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭gerfmurphy


    A few people mentioned an interestin this myself included . Any further info yet?


  • #9
    CianW5
    Registered Users Posts: 48 ✭CianW5


    Never get a Peugeot trust me a friend of mine got Peugeot and it kept stoping and starting even when was new I would not recommend it at all.


  • #10
    oppenheimer1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    CianW5 wrote: »
    Never get a Peugeot trust me a friend of mine got Peugeot and it kept stoping and starting even when was new I would not recommend it at all.

    Trust me, I have a Peugeot and it starts first time every time.

    You cannot dismiss a modern cars reliability out of hand just because of its brand. The model and specifically the generation of model, maybe, but not based on the brand alone.


  • #11
    grogi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    CianW5 wrote: »
    Never get a Peugeot trust me a friend of mine got Peugeot and it kept stoping and starting even when was new I would not recommend it at all.

    That's how Stop-Start should work, shouldn't it? :]


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  • #12
    Tauriel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,480 ✭✭✭✭Tauriel


    My current car and last car were both Peugeot and they are the only car brand that I've never had any trouble with.

    They have come on in leaps and bounds in terms of reliability and in the looks department.


  • #13
    Kristopherus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    CianW5 wrote: »
    Never get a Peugeot trust me a friend of mine got Peugeot and it kept stoping and starting even when was new I would not recommend it at all.

    Blow me down, but there's always one:rolleyes:.


  • #14
    Doodah7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭Doodah7


    CianW5 wrote: »
    Never get a Peugeot trust me a friend of mine got Peugeot and it kept stoping and starting even when was new I would not recommend it at all.

    I think with comments like this, you need to bring your own barstool.

    Never judge a car marque on what some other gobsh1te has said.
    Never judge a car marque on some previous model from history.
    Never judge a car marque that you yourself have never driven or know nothing about.


  • #15
    Gwynston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Gwynston


    Just found this Turkish(!) website with some new 5008 images I haven't seen before (other country's websites are also available, I'm sure :p ):
    http://www.ahaber.com.tr/galeri/otomobil/2017-peugeot-5008
    But specifically, this one shows the dimensions:
    http://i.ahaber.com.tr/galeri/otomobil/2017-peugeot-5008/1_d.jpg
    The crucial one there is labelled N across the back seats which is 1432mm - that's actually less than the old 5008 I linked to earlier which labelled N as 1442mm. So if Peugeot are using the same measuring criteria, that suggests the new 5008 is actually narrower across the back seats than the old one. :eek:
    See http://www.peugeot.ie/range/find-your-vehicle/5008/technical-information.html

    But bearing in mind when I personally measured the old 5008's actual seat base width as being 1320mm (which was less than my S-Max's 1400mm), I can only conclude that the new 5008, despite having 3 separate seats will not be wide enough for me to upgrade from the S-Max :(

    Also, looking at the M measurement of overall internal width, the new (1432mm) is less than the old (1442mm). The external dimensions look wider on the new 5008 though, so where's all the space being wasted?


  • #16
    Gwynston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Gwynston


    Info on pricing in France: Nouveau Peugeot 5008
    Suggests a mid-range 150hp model will be 37k in France, or a more basic specced 120hp will be 32k.

    I would expect Irish prices with VRT etc. to be a lot more...


  • #17
    SmithySeller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭SmithySeller


    Im guessing the seats could very well be the exact same albeit upholstered differently. All SUV's are wider at the hips to make them SUV like. You look at the S-Max at the hips (cant think of anything else to describe it :D) and the roof line, they are nearly as wide as each other. There's the big difference between MPV's and SUV's when looking at dimensions. Never really bought into the Kodiaq or the 5008 being big cars like an S-Max.


  • #18
    SmithySeller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭SmithySeller


    Gwynston wrote: »
    Info on pricing in France: Nouveau Peugeot 5008
    Suggests a mid-range 150hp model will be 37k in France, or a more basic specced 120hp will be 32k.

    I would expect Irish prices with VRT etc. to be a lot more...

    The 3008 price list is out, maybe add 3 to 4K per range, kinda like the old pricing did. This puts the auto 180bhp GT at around 47-48k list. Starting prices around 29K. That's a guess..


  • #19
    Gwynston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Gwynston


    SmithySeller wrote: »
    All SUV's are wider at the hips to make them SUV like. You look at the S-Max at the hips (cant think of anything else to describe it :D) and the roof line, they are nearly as wide as each other. There's the big difference between MPV's and SUV's when looking at dimensions. Never really bought into the Kodiaq or the 5008 being big cars like an S-Max.
    Yes, I'm starting to realise that now. I was hoping to get something other than a 7-seat MPV, but have found anything else isn't wide enough for 3 seated all the time in the back.

    Even really big SUVs like the Q7 and XC90 don't have 3 separate middle row seats as spacious as the S-Max.


  • #20
    grogi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    Gwynston wrote: »
    Yes, I'm starting to realise that now. I was hoping to get something other than a 7-seat MPV, but have found anything else isn't wide enough for 3 seated all the time in the back.

    Even really big SUVs like the Q7 and XC90 don't have 3 separate middle row seats as spacious as the S-Max.

    Unfortunately the public buys what is shiny... Take an Insignia - overweight car, very small inside for the class with performance of a stone... And it sells great, because of the chromes and big wheelz...

    The same goes to SUV. They don't really offer anything but attractive looks. They are heavier, less roomy and less efficient. And despite costing more than estates and more than MPV, they sell well. Because of the wheels I guess, so you don't care about the curbs...

    SMAX is great car. Get it is sport guise and you'll be happy camper.


  • #21
    AMKC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,297 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Gwynston wrote: »
    Yes, I'm starting to realise that now. I was hoping to get something other than a 7-seat MPV, but have found anything else isn't wide enough for 3 seated all the time in the back.

    Even really big SUVs like the Q7 and XC90 don't have 3 separate middle row seats as spacious as the S-Max.

    Why not try the new Renault Grand Scenic. Looks like a lovely car and might be what you want. Have only seen the new Scenic in the metal do but thought it looked fantastic the alloys as well.


    grogi: Unfortunately the public buys what is shiny... Take an Insignia - overweight car, very small inside for the class with performance of a stone... And it sells great, because of the chromes and big wheelz...

    The same goes to SUV. They don't really offer anything but attractive looks. They are heavier, less roomy and less efficient. And despite costing more than estates and more than MPV, they sell well. Because of the wheels I guess, so you don't care about the curbs...

    SMAX is great car. Get it is sport guise and you'll be happy camper.

    I don,t think that applies to all SUVs. The Dad had a C-Max but changed to a Kiaa Sportage and the Sportage is actually much more economical than the C-Max.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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  • #22
    pippip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭pippip


    If anyone is interested my wife's brother in law was in Agnelli on Greenhills road and they have a left hand drive 3008 in the showroom.

    https://www.facebook.com/Agnelli-Motor-Park-1572170483045239/

    16114788_1783459665249652_1956064906576038265_n.jpg?oh=f97c8bfd99265554fa42bbbc33d72b8a&oe=59039624

    16142601_1783460005249618_1564958763396815525_n.jpg?oh=8c73beb22f86c97afeeba7ac98b928d1&oe=59242FB0

    Dealer said its pretty much exact same as 5008 minus the two back seats.

    No pricing but salesman reckons they will be pricing it against the Xtrail and Sante Fe.


  • #23
    Gwynston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Gwynston


    pippip wrote: »
    Dealer said its pretty much exact same as 5008 minus the two back seats.
    I hope that's not the case because there's not much room in the back of a 3008. I had a look in one at Kenny Galway - nice inside, and I expect the 5008 to be similar, but I'm hoping the 3 middle seats will be at least as big as the old 5008, or it simply won't be big enough for my 3 kids...


  • #24
    sword1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,991 ✭✭✭sword1


    Gwynston wrote: »
    I hope that's not the case because there's not much room in the back of a 3008. I had a look in one at Kenny Galway - nice inside, and I expect the 5008 to be similar, but I'm hoping the 3 middle seats will be at least as big as the old 5008, or it simply won't be big enough for my 3 kids...

    a quick google suggests the 3008 is 1422 full width at 2nd row and 5008 is 1505,so while it probably wont be the full amount of the difference extra in the seats there should be a good difference


  • #25
    Gwynston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Gwynston


    sword1 wrote: »
    a quick google suggests the 3008 is 1422 full width at 2nd row and 5008 is 1505,so while it probably wont be the full amount of the difference extra in the seats there should be a good difference
    Links please? (To save me the redoing what you've already done...;))


  • #26
    gerfmurphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭gerfmurphy


    According to the uk website its bigger inside than the previous(present) 5008. That has 3 seperate iso fix seats on the 2nd row. So decent enough size even for an adult

    Also read this at the blog for launch


  • #27
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    This is last update I got from Peugeot: Hi XXX, the new 5008 will not arrive until next May. Prices should be available circa April. Let me know if you've any further queries. Best regards, Emma

    I asked if you could order in April when pricing is released and I got back the "I hope so" answer. I have a dealer keeping an ear to the ground for me as well and he confirmed the same...he said he would update me if anything changes, so did Peugeot so will just have to wait


  • #28
    Gwynston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Gwynston


    gerfmurphy wrote: »
    According to the uk website its bigger inside than the previous(present) 5008. That has 3 seperate iso fix seats on the 2nd row. So decent enough size even for an adult
    Sorry, but I don't understand that.
    Please see my previous post where I quoted Peugeot measurements which looked smaller than the old 5008:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=102350728&postcount=15


  • #29
    gerfmurphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭gerfmurphy


    http://www.kennygalway.ie/latest-news/all-new-5008-suv
    just going on the blog, no real reason other than what they are marketing


  • #30
    grogi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    Gwynston wrote: »
    Sorry, but I don't understand that.
    Please see my previous post where I quoted Peugeot measurements which looked smaller than the old 5008:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=102350728&postcount=15

    Why not wait for the car to arrive in the showroom and see yourself? You're doing pure speculation right now, and you will not order it before is shows up, so why bother?

    If you need one NOW, get an S-Max. If you can wait, then wait...


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  • #31
    LaLa2004
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭LaLa2004


    The crucial one there is labelled N across the back seats which is 1432mm - that's actually less than the old 5008 I linked to earlier which labelled N as 1442mm. So if Peugeot are using the same measuring criteria, that suggests the new 5008 is actually narrower across the back seats than the old one.

    1442mm minus 1432mm = 10 mm

    10mm = 1cm less than the old 5008


  • #32
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Gwynston wrote: »
    Sorry, but I don't understand that.
    Please see my previous post where I quoted Peugeot measurements which looked smaller than the old 5008:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=102350728&postcount=15

    I don't even look at these stats, how I test is bring the 3 car seats along with me and fire them into the car. I do get strange looks but I don't care, no point buying the car and then find out the car seats I have don't work.....

    Also this crap of taking a test drive without the kiddies in the back, no chance, if I am buying new I will load all up and head out.....that is only way to get a proper sense of how it will be in real life....

    I am buying this sort of car because of practicability in reality so test it properly for what you want it for, I know my wife will be checking to see how easy the buggy goes in and out.....


  • #33
    Gwynston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Gwynston


    Yep, I know it's necessary to properly test out a car. Believe me, I'm analysing the space in detail - I carry a tape measure with me when looking going in to showrooms and have taken the kids with me too!

    The reason I'm speculating is that there's very little concrete info around, and the bits I have found seem contradictory. I've already been disappointed. when seeing the Kodiaq in the flesh - it's simply not big enough in the back, even though it's being sold as a 7 seater.

    I really hope the 5008 is at least as big inside as the old model. Even in the new S-Max it turns out the seats are slightly smaller than the old ones. So I'm trying to work out myself how big the 5008 really will be - waiting is painful!

    Journos starting getting their hands on Kodiaqs to drive in Czech Republic around November, so if Peugeot get journos over the France a similar time in advance of launch, we should start seeing some 5008 reviews soon.


  • #34
    grogi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    Gwynston wrote: »
    I really hope the 5008 is at least as big inside as the old model. Even in the new S-Max it turns out the seats are slightly smaller than the old ones. So I'm trying to work out myself how big the 5008 really will be - waiting is painful!

    Journos starting getting their hands on Kodiaqs to drive in Czech Republic around November, so if Peugeot get journos over the France a similar time in advance of launch, we should start seeing some 5008 reviews soon.

    Take the current C4 Grand Picasso as a start. 5008 is build on the same platform, with the crucial dimensions (like wheelbase etc) the same. 5008 will be less roomy though, because it focuses more on looks than usability.

    So if C4 GP is not roomy enough, don't even think about 5008. If it just there, 5008 probably won't work for you either. If C4 GP is too big - 5008 might be there... :)

    IMHO you WILL BE disappointed with the 5008 and will get an MPV. Be it an S-Max, Zafira or Alhambra... That's what they are for - carrying many people around. SUVs are for people who needed an estate, but did not dig the idea of one. Unless it is a monster like XC90...


  • #35
    Gwynston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Gwynston


    I started out with the aim of finding a car that seats 5 comfortably. MPVs tend to seat 7. I'm replacing our S-Max and wanted something that was as wide, but not necessarily with 7 seats. See my (long) thread here:
    Good *wide* family car

    I know there's the 5-seat Picasso with 3 separate seats, but I don't like the styling, especially inside. All other non-Grand mid-size MPVs (C-Max, Scenic, 3008 etc.) or SUVs (Kadjar, Tuscon, Qashqai etc.) have bench seats with limited space for the centre passenger. Even large SUVs like the Q7 and SC90 don't have full seating for 3 in the middle row.

    I was interested when first learning about the upcoming Kodiaq and 5008 that they we might finally get SUV styling with MPV-type middle seats. Having looked in the Kodiaq, that's not so.

    5008 looks more promising but it wasn't until last week when I actually got a tape measure out that I realised the old 5008 middle seats are smaller than in my S-Max. So that doesn't bode well for the new one...


  • #36
    The Machine
    Registered Users Posts: 148 ✭✭The Machine


    Keen on the 5008 SUV myself. Unfortunately looks like it has been delayed a few months....


    http://europe.autonews.com/article/20170209/ANE/170209809/peugeot-delays-5008-to-protect-hot-selling-3008


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  • #37
    Stallingrad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,189 ✭✭✭Stallingrad


    The Machine wrote: »
    Keen on the 5008 SUV myself. Unfortunately looks like it has been delayed a few months....


    http://europe.autonews.com/article/20170209/ANE/170209809/peugeot-delays-5008-to-protect-hot-selling-3008

    Good to see brave and innovative design being rewarded with strong sales and massive percentage increases over the old model. Hope the dull Germans are watching.


  • #38
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Stallingrad wrote: »
    Good to see brave and innovative design being rewarded with strong sales and massive percentage increases over the old model. Hope the dull Germans are watching.

    Funny how they say about pre-order? How can you pre-order, I checked with local garage and they said they couldn't.....


  • #39
    sword1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,991 ✭✭✭sword1


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Funny how they say about pre-order? How can you pre-order, I checked with local garage and they said they couldn't.....

    Would garages preorder to sell after if a lot of customers seemed interested


  • #40
    Stallingrad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,189 ✭✭✭Stallingrad


    Maybe you can pre-order in France where volumes are far greater and not here. We are hardly worth the paperwork in terms of sales.


  • #41
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    http://vetcar.ie/2016/09/15/peugeot-announce-new-5008-suv/

    Interesting details on car below, this is why I am interested in it

    Lower, more spacious and less bulky than its competitors, it retains the same height as before of 1.64m, with roof bars standard on all models. An increased length to 4.64m (+11cm) and increased width (+11cm) over the previous 5008 MPV model, ensure there is more room for occupants; second-row passengers now enjoy 6cm more knee room.


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  • #42
    carsfan2
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    http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/peugeot/peugeot-5008-2017-review/


  • #43
    photosmart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭photosmart


    Hi Gwynston,

    You seem to be looking for a "perfect" car and why not - but in general its about trade offs. I regularly read people on these threads looking for children friendly cars saying "I couldn't fit my three kids in car x" when I know for certain that it can be done with the right seats. ie my brother has three kids in a 2016 Octavia. Its a squeeze but it can be done especially if you buy the seats to fit the car. (Check out posts on Diono Radian) or the dimensions of graco or Joie seats for example.

    If kodiak is as wide as Octavia then it will fit three seats depending on the seats you buy. Ultimately the only way to be sure is to wait for car to arrive - measure it with tape and then bring the three seats you've decided on and see.

    My two cents

    Gwynston wrote: »
    I started out with the aim of finding a car that seats 5 comfortably. MPVs tend to seat 7. I'm replacing our S-Max and wanted something that was as wide, but not necessarily with 7 seats. See my (long) thread here:
    Good *wide* family car

    I know there's the 5-seat Picasso with 3 separate seats, but I don't like the styling, especially inside. All other non-Grand mid-size MPVs (C-Max, Scenic, 3008 etc.) or SUVs (Kadjar, Tuscon, Qashqai etc.) have bench seats with limited space for the centre passenger. Even large SUVs like the Q7 and SC90 don't have full seating for 3 in the middle row.

    I was interested when first learning about the upcoming Kodiaq and 5008 that they we might finally get SUV styling with MPV-type middle seats. Having looked in the Kodiaq, that's not so.

    5008 looks more promising but it wasn't until last week when I actually got a tape measure out that I realised the old 5008 middle seats are smaller than in my S-Max. So that doesn't bode well for the new one...


  • #44
    Gwynston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Gwynston


    photosmart wrote: »
    You seem to be looking for a "perfect" car and why not - but in general its about trade offs. I regularly read people on these threads looking for children friendly cars saying "I couldn't fit my three kids in car x" when I know for certain that it can be done with the right seats.
    Of course, you're right there is no perfect car for everyone!
    I think that the reason I'm struggling to satisfy our requirements is because my kids are used to the space in our old S-Max. I started out looking for something that maybe wasn't a 7-seat MPV (preferably SUV-like), but which would provide us with as much accommodation for the 3 kids. Nothing seems to fit the bill, even very large non-SUV cars like the Superb.

    Now, my kids are almost all out of car seats, so that's not really an issue. But it does mean I need to consider that in the coming years, we'll instead have 3 young adults in the back, which brings it's own space requirements. It's already a tight squeeze in the back on school mornings with bags etc., so it's hard to justify changing to a car with less space in the back when we're only going to get bigger as a family!

    The Kodiaq looked promising on paper, but in the flesh I was let down that it actually has less internal seat width than the Superb. I'm still hoping the 5008 will really have 3 separate proper seats with enough space.

    Otherwise I think I already know the ideal car for our family - another S-Max! :cool: The only reason I was looking for alternatives is because the new S-Max is so damn expensive. :eek:


  • #45
    Gwynston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Gwynston


    carsfan2 wrote: »
    http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/peugeot/peugeot-5008-2017-review/
    Finally a decent picture of the middle row of seats there. Looks promising! :)
    (Shame about the ugly stitching pattern on the leather though :confused:)


  • #46
    grogi
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    Gwynston wrote: »
    Finally a decent picture of the middle row of seats there. Looks promising! :)
    (Shame about the ugly stitching pattern on the leather though :confused:)

    5008 will have the seats setup exactly as the C4 Grand Picasso. Might have a bit less headroom caused by the SUV bodywork, but the seats are common between the two... Even the plastics in 3rd row look almost the same, bar the flashlight...

    http://images.car.bauercdn.com/pagefiles/70059/1752x1168/peugeot5008_10.jpg?mode=max&quality=90&scale=down

    https://www.autofreaks.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Citro%C3%ABn-Grand-C4-Picasso-13.jpg



    I think it is safe for you to check C4 Grand Picasso, ignore the styling of the dash and focus only on the space available.


  • #47
    Gwynston
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    grogi wrote: »
    5008 will have the seats setup exactly as the C4 Grand Picasso.
    I think it is safe for you to check C4 Grand Picasso, ignore the styling of the dash and focus only on the space available.
    Well I did measure the width of the 3 seats in the current 5008 (I presume the Grand Picasso is the same?) and found them to be a bit smaller across than the S-Max (132cm vs 140cm).

    But having said that, in my other thread about car width, someone who has a new S-Max pointed out that it seems narrower across the seats (135cm) than the old S-Max, so perhaps the new 5008 won't be so different.


  • #48
    gerfmurphy
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    I looked at the old 5008 and the c4 gp together and it seemed like the c4 was bigger. Just from trying both out side by side. I know they are the same platform but citeron seem to be more efficent with space. They have them in gowans navan road and the have a 13 reg s max too. S max is considerable more roomy then either of the other 2.


  • #49
    grogi
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    gerfmurphy wrote: »
    I looked at the old 5008 and the c4 gp together and it seemed like the c4 was bigger. Just from trying both out side by side. I know they are the same platform but citeron seem to be more efficent with space. They have them in gowans navan road and the have a 13 reg s max too. S max is considerable more roomy then either of the other 2.

    Because the old 5008 is based on the old platform, same as the first C4 Grand Picasso. New SUV 5008 shares the platform with the new C4 GP. Citroen will however be more spacious in the front, because of how the dash is build around the driver in the Peugeot and very open in Citroen.


  • #50
    Gwynston
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    Looks like journos from all the major publications have been down to Portugal for a demo run in the new 5008:
    http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/peugeot/5008/98615/new-peugeot-5008-2017-review
    http://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/5008-estate-2017/first-drive

    This sounds quite promising from the TopGear article:
    The middle row?
    They’re thrones of some splendour. Three separate seats all slide and recline independently. All three have Isofix points, too. In fact the 5008 makes a brilliant five-seater. In that configuration it’s got Maybach-like legroom, and a vast boot.
    It also suggests that the 3-cylinder 1.2L petrol might be the best engine. It might sound small, but with 130bhp it's plenty powerful enough and saves hundreds of kg over the auto diesel which makes the drive, ride and handling much better.


  • #51
    grogi
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    Look at that autoexpress review...

    Generally very very positive, with hardly any complains but the lack of 4x4... And ?! 4 stars... Bloody four stars... WHY?! Because it is French? Kodiaq got five of course...

    Stupid


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