Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

19-01-2017 08:41PM

liamog wrote: »

Are we going to ignore the public type 2 chargers that exist?

I'm not sure there are many people going to drive from Dublin to the Northwest and only stay for 30 mins.

Exactly !

Villain · 19-01-2017 08:44PM

See an example of the Crazy that goes on https://www.facebook.com/groups/IEVOA/permalink/1791761911065089/

Just to be clear to those who might be bullied by others, you are entitled to charge to 100% at ANY charger don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

unkel · 19-01-2017 08:45PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Good man, welcome to the world of EV motoring, and to think of all the flack you gave me when I first brought up Electrics in the motors section of boards you O'l Divil you and look at you now !!!

Old Chinese saying: innovator pays price, early adopter gets worm

19-01-2017 08:49PM

liamog wrote: »

It just seems that some people are discounting the range because there isn't a fast charger at the destination and ignoring the destination chargers completely. Its not perfect but also not quite as doom and gloom.

I think there will be pressure on the charging network to supply more CCS. The German manufactures are behind it and will be lobbying. Ideally they should be injecting upgrade funds into the network. Especially given the desire to spread 350k CCS as the max charging standard.

Back on topic, Bjorn has a video of the Ioniq taking 70kw from a 100kw DC charger so it looks like that's the top figure.

It will be a long time before the ESB install greater than 45 Kw chargers in Ireland, probably a long time before they install chargers again at all. The Network in Ireland has reached a dead end and the Government have done nothing.

VW will be spending 14 or so Billion in installing chargers in the U.S or most likely they will be finding it as punishment for the emissions scandal. And I suspect this will be their target area for electric cars while they continue to sell their filthy diesel TDI dirt in Europe.

n97 mini · 19-01-2017 08:50PM

Villain wrote: »

See an example of the Crazy that goes on https://www.facebook.com/groups/IEVOA/permalink/1791761911065089/

Just to be clear to those who might be bullied by others, you are entitled to charge to 100% at ANY charger don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Plenty of people in there with the same view as you (myself included) though.

There was worse! But it's still a good resource. And one of the main peeps speaks the same first language as unkel

19-01-2017 08:53PM

unkel wrote: »

Old Chinese saying: innovator pays price, early adopter gets worm

It's a good day for me to think that you who were so opposed to electrics has decided to buy one, anyway good luck with it.

I might be on for a drag race if you live close ?

unkel · 19-01-2017 09:37PM

You're in Kildare? Why not. It will only cost me €0.10 to drive over to ya and back. Maybe another €0.02 for the drag race

19-01-2017 09:50PM

Yes down nearly in Carlow, way down mate.

I'm free (ish) at the weekend. Otherwise I work near Lucan could meet up when I'm on nights next Thursday - Sunday.

bk · 19-01-2017 10:00PM

Cool unkel. In addition to your drag race, any chance you fancy taking a road trip down to Cork too and giving us a trip report?

I'd love to see a real world trip report for this journey with a to b time.

Seems like a seriously cool car with some very nice tech gadgets too.

Padraig Mor · 19-01-2017 10:28PM

Well done Unkel - I reckon that's about 14 cylinders and 7 litres of engine between us that we've changed to electric from!

19-01-2017 10:55PM

Doesn't look like I'll get the Ioniq test drive next week, pity, seems they're waiting for paperwork to go through to get the plates on or grant or whatever. And I can't drive it without plates.

unkel · 19-01-2017 11:09PM

Padraig Mor wrote: »

Well done Unkel - I reckon that's about 14 cylinders and 7 litres of engine between us that we've changed to electric from!

That's a bit depressing. My last family cars had V8, V8, I6, I4 turbo (recession), I6 and V6 petrol engines. Goodbye to an era

Still have a roaring flat 6 sports car though. Old skool manual hard work gear box and no drivers aids. Yeah!

Donnelly117 · 20-01-2017 12:29AM

Was it a 7 series or something you were coming from?
Can you share what kind of a deal you got on it? I'll probably go EV myself for my next car, I'll hang onto the FiST another year it two though so I don't lose me arse on it haha!

Soarer · 20-01-2017 12:37AM

unkel wrote: »

Ioniq EV bought

Well wear fella.

Did you do the scrappage deal?

Just wait for the inevitable announcement of a 40 kWh Ioniq 2 weeks after you take delivery!

unkel · 20-01-2017 12:57AM

Yep, I was wrong before expecting you'd get the same cash deal if you didn't have a car for the scrappage scheme (I don't think they'll actually scrap the cars. Otherwise many dealers wouldn't have asked me details about it, or wanted to have a look at it). Hyundai Ireland seems to insist on a car coming in.

And yes, this is a moving game. Soon there will be a better EV for the same, or only slightly more money. The Tesla Model 3 will probably p1ss all over the Ioniq next year.

Doesn't worry me. Progress is good. Nice times to be alive

liamog · 20-01-2017 12:58AM

Just popped our charging cherry on the Ioniq. Still no card so a quick call to the ESB to activate the charger.
Ours is the black model which looks amazing. Charged from 19% to 94% in 34 mins at the fast charge point in Blanch.

No home charger due to on-street charging so will be a combo for Fast/Slow chargers for us.

Changed the Lane Keep Assist to Advanced mode, the car helps to centre the lane when it picks it up.
We've some longer journeys planned for the weekend, though not the cross country trips that people seem so worked up about CCS for.

Need to wait till Saturday to get some good pics

Bigus · 20-01-2017 01:01AM

I don't think the Tesla model 3 is going to be that far ahead of the Ioniq, especially when cost price is taken into account.

As I said previously if the Ioniq was a Tesla , it'd be Top news worldwide and a game changer, good choice methinks.

stesaurus · 20-01-2017 01:05AM

liamog wrote: »

Just popped our charging cherry on the Ioniq. Still no card so a quick call to the ESB to activate the charger.
Ours is the black model which looks amazing. Charged from 19% to 94% in 34 mins at the fast charge point in Blanch.

No home charger due to on-street charging so will be a combo for Fast/Slow chargers for us.

Changed the Lane Keep Assist to Advanced mode, the car helps to centre the lane when it picks it up.
We've some longer journeys planned for the weekend, though not the cross country trips that people seem so worked up about CCS for.

Need to wait till Saturday to get some good pics

Any old RFID card should work to get the charger started.

Do you mean to stay no home charger because of on street parking?

stesaurus · 20-01-2017 01:11AM

unkel wrote: »

Ioniq EV bought

Wow it really must have made an impression in you.

So this drag race...can we get a full EV grid going? We can even let Villain enter his Megane GT

liamog · 20-01-2017 01:19AM

s.welstead wrote: »

Any old RFID card should work to get the charger started.

Do you mean to stay no home charger because of on street parking?

We've parking about 2m away from the front of the house, not dedicated but 99% of the time we can park there. Unfortunately the gap is a pavement.

I've been working with management company on options, at the moment we're probably going to go with heavy duty cable covers like you'd see at music festivals. ESB will supply the charger but won't fit it for us.

AMAZON

If we're ever going to get to double digit percentages off EV penetration we're going to have to solve the no home charging problem.

Will have to try the Leap Card next time

Villain · 20-01-2017 08:21AM

liamog wrote: »

We've parking about 2m away from the front of the house, not dedicated but 99% of the time we can park there. Unfortunately the gap is a pavement.

I've been working with management company on options, at the moment we're probably going to go with heavy duty cable covers like you'd see at music festivals. ESB will supply the charger but won't fit it for us.

AMAZON

If we're ever going to get to double digit percentages off EV penetration we're going to have to solve the no home charging problem.

Will have to try the Leap Card next time

I know an EV owner who got charger in small pole with cable put into footpath, took a while for Council to agree but they did

Soarer · 20-01-2017 08:22AM

liamog wrote: »

Ours is the black model which looks amazing.

Black car with black grille?

@liamog @unkel. So is the price the price? Ie. The RRP on the site, less €4k scrappage, plus delivery, plus metallic (if required)? Is there any haggling to be done? Any extras to be added? Do you have to go PCP to get the scrappage?

Also, do they show you your colour combination on the computer or whatever before you commit?

Villain · 20-01-2017 08:22AM

s.welstead wrote: »

Wow it really must have made an impression in you.

So this drag race...can we get a full EV grid going? We can even let Villain enter his Megane GT

Am I allowed use my launch control?

Fiery mutant · 20-01-2017 08:25AM

So just done my first overnight charge, 12% to full. Just calculated the cost, which was €4.38.

Bearing in mind I'm not on a night tariff, which I'll probably switch over to soon.

Villain · 20-01-2017 09:11AM

liamog wrote: »

We've parking about 2m away from the front of the house, not dedicated but 99% of the time we can park there. Unfortunately the gap is a pavement.

I've been working with management company on options, at the moment we're probably going to go with heavy duty cable covers like you'd see at music festivals. ESB will supply the charger but won't fit it for us.

AMAZON

If we're ever going to get to double digit percentages off EV penetration we're going to have to solve the no home charging problem.

Will have to try the Leap Card next time

Example of what I mentioned

unkel · 20-01-2017 10:02AM

Soarer wrote: »

@unkel. So is the price the price? Ie. The RRP on the site, less €4k scrappage, plus delivery, plus metallic (if required)? Is there any haggling to be done?

The dealers will tell you there is no room to haggle, but of course there is. Because of the €4k scrappage we are obviously not talking thousands here though.

Soarer wrote: »

Any extras to be added?

No, the car comes fully loaded. The only extra for me was metallic paint

Soarer wrote: »

Do you have to go PCP to get the scrappage?

No. Pay yourself or finance it, both get scrappage. The dealers claim the scrappage is coming to an end on 31/01/2017 though

Soarer wrote: »

do they show you your colour combination on the computer or whatever before you commit?

No, there is a brochure with the available colours and they should have a stand in the showroom with samples of all available Hyundai colours

I was going to go for Aurora Silver metallic, but had not seen it on a car in the flesh. I chickened out in the end and went for the more conservative "standard" Platinum Silver metallic

20-01-2017 10:09AM

liamog wrote: »

Just popped our charging cherry on the Ioniq. Still no card so a quick call to the ESB to activate the charger.
Ours is the black model which looks amazing. Charged from 19% to 94% in 34 mins at the fast charge point in Blanch.

No home charger due to on-street charging so will be a combo for Fast/Slow chargers for us.

Changed the Lane Keep Assist to Advanced mode, the car helps to centre the lane when it picks it up.
We've some longer journeys planned for the weekend, though not the cross country trips that people seem so worked up about CCS for.

Need to wait till Saturday to get some good pics

Excellent stuff, well wear. Hopefully 2017 will be a good year for electrics.

highdef · 20-01-2017 11:09AM

Looks like an excellent purchase, Unkel and thank you for the great review.

When the larger capacity battery becomes available, switching from the Leaf is looking quite likely unless Nissan bring out a decent Leaf beforehand. As there is only one spec of Ioniq at the moment, can I assume that leather is not an option? The Leaf we have at the moment has leather and it's a must have as we have a dog. If leather is not offered in the Ioniq, then it's a thumbs down.

Water John · 20-01-2017 11:11AM

The dog gets to pick the car you get. Smart dog, go for comfort all the way.

unkel · 20-01-2017 11:16AM

I'm not sure tbh, highdef. They have two packages in the UK and leather is standard on the highest package (and electric seats and heated seats in the back). Maybe someone else can tell you if it's an option here and how much it is.

My last 10 cars or so have had leathe and I always thought it was important particularly when my kids were young, but that said, only one of them ever vomited in the car and it went straight to the carpet on the floor, missing the leather seats altogether

I suppose with a dog it's different. Although I would be hesitant to fork out a grand for leather just for my dog, I think

Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

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