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General sheep thread

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  • #52
    charolais0153
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Dylan collins wrote: »
    i farm good land and a good bit of bog land how many sheep/cattle would i need to make a living full time just wondering

    Depends on so many factors. How many acres of each
    Personal-mortgage etc.
    Breeds of animal
    Type of animal.
    How good a farmer you are ,grassland management,mortality rates, etc


    I'd say 35cows and 250 ewes would give a hood teturn


  • #53
    ganmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Using ranglers he put up last week of €30 per ewe divide what you'd call a 'good' return by that


  • #54
    IH784man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 740 ✭✭✭IH784man


    €40 was it not


  • #55
    Dylan collins
    Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭Dylan collins


    i gave my lambs cobalt b12 at the weekend would they need any more minerals or not


  • #56
    ganmo
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    Dylan collins wrote: »
    i gave my lambs cobalt b12 at the weekend would they need any more minerals or not

    Maybe a bit of copper depending on breed and ground.

    Def not if they're texels


  • #57
    Dylan collins
    Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭Dylan collins


    any man know what that sheep netting is like


  • #58
    rangler1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    Dylan collins wrote: »
    any man know what that sheep netting is like

    I used it a lot in the past, used to save up grass through the autumn and strip graze the sheep on it through the winter.
    It's expensive but it's very secure and quick to put up,
    You need good earths on the electric fencer and good shock in the fence


  • #59
    390kid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 409 ✭✭390kid


    Dylan collins wrote: »
    any man know what that sheep netting is like
    Found it good enough need lots a power in the fence. Pain in the arse wen it's tangled


  • #60
    IH784man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 740 ✭✭✭IH784man


    Have a small shed that has to be cleaned out by hand,what's the best option for bedding ewes and cleaning out by hand straw,wood shavings,wood chips or a mix of 2?


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  • #61
    case5130
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    390kid wrote: »
    Found it good enough need lots a power in the fence. Pain in the arse wen it's tangled

    I just use three strands and a reelers and a good battery fencer no problem


  • #62
    Username John
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    case5130 wrote: »
    I just use three strands and a reelers and a good battery fencer no problem

    That's a lot of stakes... ;)

    How many metres between each one?


  • #63
    case5130
    Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭case5130


    Username John wrote: »
    That's a lot of stakes... ;)

    How many metres between each one?

    Great for making grass last tho

    There close there but I've had them 3 metres plus apart


  • #64
    390kid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 409 ✭✭390kid


    Just wondering what meal people are feeding before and after lambing? I have no where to get bulk blown in so it would be 25kg bags. I'm in the cavan leitrim area so have used a few that can be got localy. Just would like to hear what others find the best


  • #65
    rangler1
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    390kid wrote: »
    Just wondering what meal people are feeding before and after lambing? I have no where to get bulk blown in so it would be 25kg bags. I'm in the cavan leitrim area so have used a few that can be got localy. Just would like to hear what others find the best

    I'm using flynns rations in mullingar, I've been using their 18% ewe ration for the last ten years, I feed it with straw, not hay or silage,so it wouldn't be long showing up if it wasn't up to spec, list price is about 315, but I buy it in bags in five ton loads so get it at a better price.
    I don't feed after lambing very much, usually have grass, but if I do, use a snacker but it can only handle nuts and flynns don't often have nuts


  • #66
    390kid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 409 ✭✭390kid


    I'm using flynns rations in mullingar, I've been using their 18% ewe ration for the last ten years, I feed it with straw, not hay or silage,so it wouldn't be long showing up if it wasn't up to spec, list price is about 315, but I buy it in bags in five ton loads so get it at a better price.
    I don't feed after lambing very much, usually have grass, but if I do, use a snacker but it can only handle nuts and flynns don't often have nuts[/quote]

    When your feeding straw with them how much meal per ewe do you give? It doesn't sound dear at that price when it's obviously doing its job very well


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  • #67
    rangler1
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    390kid wrote: »
    I'm using flynns rations in mullingar, I've been using their 18% ewe ration for the last ten years, I feed it with straw, not hay or silage,so it wouldn't be long showing up if it wasn't up to spec, list price is about 315, but I buy it in bags in five ton loads so get it at a better price.
    I don't feed after lambing very much, usually have grass, but if I do, use a snacker but it can only handle nuts and flynns don't often have nuts

    When your feeding straw with them how much meal per ewe do you give? It doesn't sound dear at that price when it's obviously doing its job very well[/QUOTE]

    I reckon on straw plus .5kg of meal as equal to silage, so they just get half a kilo with the straw in mid pregnancy.
    Six weeks from lambing I start upping the rate same as you would with silage up to 1.25kgs at lambing for twins. 1.25kg has to be fed in three feeds through out the day.....shouldn't give more than .5kg to a ewe at a time, very easy sicken ewes in late pregnancy and you have to increase the rate very gradually


  • #68
    Ard_MC
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    rangler1 wrote: »
    When your feeding straw with them how much meal per ewe do you give? It doesn't sound dear at that price when it's obviously doing its job very well

    I reckon on straw plus .5kg of meal as equal to silage, so they just get half a kilo with the straw in mid pregnancy.
    Six weeks from lambing I start upping the rate same as you would with silage up to 1.25kgs at lambing for twins. 1.25kg has to be fed in three feeds through out the day.....shouldn't give more than .5kg to a ewe at a time, very easy sicken ewes in late pregnancy and you have to increase the rate very gradually[/quote]

    Rangler, was there a thread thst you gave out the details of your tunnel in? Thinking about puttin up a shed or a tunnel here for 100 ewes. So just weighing up my options.


  • #69
    rangler1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    Hi Ard Mc =, quotes seem to be getting mixed up, Try to sort it with a quick reply
    Here's a thread from my former life as rancher.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=82080860

    Starting at the third post

    Its 120ft by 36ft and holds about 200 sheep


  • #70
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    I see PETA are after opening a new front in their self promotion, this time against shearing.

    http://modernfarmer.com/2017/01/alicia-silverstone-naked-telling-wool-clothing-bad-believe/?utm_source=Modern+Farmer+Newsletter&utm_campaign=0fad32d258-Thursday_January_12_201712_01_2017&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e8a89c7e43-0fad32d258-75668801&mc_cid=0fad32d258&mc_eid=51385c56ee

    The only bonus here is Alicia Silverstone:o


  • #71
    ganmo
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    There is a breed of sheep in Russia where the lambs are skinned. That's the only use of wool that I disagree with.
    PETA are a mouthpiece and I instantly hate ppl who support them...peter drinkledge being one of them :(


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  • #72
    390kid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 409 ✭✭390kid


    Ah good auld PETA 😂


  • #73
    Dylan collins
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    any man got any good tips for training a young sheep dog


  • #74
    charolais0153
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Dylan collins wrote: »
    any man got any good tips for training a young sheep dog

    Get the basics right first. Make sure he will lie down and "walk on" on command and that he will come back to you no questions asked.then bring hism out with a long rope and teach him the come by(go left) and away(go right).


  • #75
    Dylan collins
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    thanks lad


  • #76
    rangler1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    John Fagan had 120 inlamb ewes in Carnaross yesterday, 3rd and 4th crop.
    A neighbour went to buy, so i asked about them, he said that a pen of 10 ewes with 22 or 23 lambs in them made €120.
    His comment was ''twas enough for them''........ says it all really.
    He didn't buy any of them!!!!!!


  • #77
    Cran
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    rangler1 wrote: »
    John Fagan had 120 inlamb ewes in Carnaross yesterday, 3rd and 4th crop.
    A neighbour went to buy, so i asked about them, he said that a pen of 10 ewes with 22 or 23 lambs in them made €120.
    His comment was ''twas enough for them''........ says it all really.
    He didn't buy any of them!!!!!!

    They d be all mules I guess? Be good stock very small money


  • #78
    razor8
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭razor8


    seen ewes in Carrigallen last monday night making similar money, no newbies want the hassle of lambing ewes


  • #79
    rangler1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    razor8 wrote: »
    seen ewes in Carrigallen last monday night making similar money, no newbies want the hassle of lambing ewes

    From my neighbours description you'd need a farmer with a bit of experience to handle these ladies :rolleyes:


  • #80
    orm0nd
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    rangler1 wrote: »
    From my neighbours description you'd need a farmer with a bit of experience to handle these ladies :rolleyes:

    we bought them for years but running closed flock now, usually after first lambing & they settle in they're grand.

    if you're in sheep to make money you have to produce numbers. imo

    the mule is 1 breed than will do that and great mothers


  • #81
    Dylan collins
    Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭Dylan collins


    lads i gave flukeiver 5 weeks ago and i am wondering when i will need to give it to them again


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  • #82
    Dylan collins
    Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭Dylan collins


    and aswell this is my first year lambing must scan saturday how many lambs would a scotch cross cheviot have on a average


  • #83
    charolais0153
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Dylan collins wrote: »
    and aswell this is my first year lambing must scan saturday how many lambs would a scotch cross cheviot have on a average

    One point five maybe


  • #84
    ganmo
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    charolais0153 wrote: »
    One point five maybe

    It all depends on the treatment they got around mating. But I'd be expecting around 1.3 ish


  • #85
    stantheman1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭stantheman1979


    A not very prolific breed crossed with a less prolific breed!! I'd cross my fingers and hope for the best and not have high expectations!!


  • #86
    charolais0153
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    stantheman1979 wrote: »
    A not very prolific breed crossed with a less prolific breed!! I'd cross my fingers and hope for the best and not have high expectations!!

    Isn't there a thing ...the ewe for numbers and ram for quality... Might of heard it on here actually


  • #87
    stantheman1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭stantheman1979


    charolais0153 wrote: »
    Isn't there a thing ...the ewe for numbers and ram for quality... Might of heard it on here actually

    Yeah the number of lambs is determined by the ewe. They wont be to bad actually should scan 1.5 or higher. The hybrid vigour between the 2breeds should push it up a bit.


  • #88
    roosky
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭roosky


    390kid wrote: »
    Just wondering what meal people are feeding before and after lambing? I have no where to get bulk blown in so it would be 25kg bags. I'm in the cavan leitrim area so have used a few that can be got localy. Just would like to hear what others find the best

    could you get half tonne bags


  • #89
    IH784man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 740 ✭✭✭IH784man


    Have couple ewes together,1 single 2 twins 1 triplet,want to give them a bit of meal around now,how much to give them so the single isn't too big?


  • #90
    Willfarman
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    IH784man wrote: »
    Have couple ewes together,1 single 2 twins 1 triplet,want to give them a bit of meal around now,how much to give them so the single isn't too big?

    Get a narrow trough and cut a ewes head sized hole out of the bottom of a wide enough bucket that will allow the ewe only to pull hay silage but not get her head into the trough.. Position bucket over ewes head.. Happy days... Feed double and triplets half a kg head twice a day..


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  • #91
    390kid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 409 ✭✭390kid


    roosky wrote: »
    390kid wrote: »
    Just wondering what meal people are feeding before and after lambing? I have no where to get bulk blown in so it would be 25kg bags. I'm in the cavan leitrim area so have used a few that can be got localy. Just would like to hear what others find the best

    could you get half tonne bags
    Ye I would have the space for the a few half tonne bags


  • #92
    IH784man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 740 ✭✭✭IH784man


    Willfarman wrote: »
    Get a narrow trough and cut a ewes head sized hole out of the bottom of a wide enough bucket that will allow the ewe only to pull hay silage but not get her head into the trough.. Position bucket over ewes head.. Happy days... Feed double and triplets half a kg head twice a day..

    Feck it,I'll probably buy more through the week so I'll spilt them up in groups if more come to feed them make it simple


  • #93
    Dylan collins
    Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭Dylan collins


    with this flukeiver when shall i give it to them next i gave it 5 weeks ago can anyone tell me when they should be dosed again


  • #94
    Dylan collins
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    and aswell does that protect for worms or do i have to buy something else for worming


  • #95
    razor8
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    You shouldn't have to be worming adult ewes.


  • #96
    farawaygrass
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    Dylan collins wrote: »
    and aswell does that protect for worms or do i have to buy something else for worming

    Flukiver only does for fluke. I probably wouldn't be in a big rush to do them again too soon. Are they dirty? When are they lambing? Take it they are all out?


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  • #97
    Buford T. Justice XIX
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    Interesting tweet about the future of the NZ sheep meat access to the EUROPEAN.

    https://twitter.com/farmersjournal/status/823995146027024385


  • #98
    roosky
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    hi all,

    I dosed all ewes before scanning with ridafluke which has a 60 day withdrawl.

    I have a few empty ewes that i want to sell but can i sell them within the withdrawl or would anyone buy them knowing they cant be killed until march


  • #99
    Green farmer
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    roosky wrote: »
    hi all,

    I dosed all ewes before scanning with ridafluke which has a 60 day withdrawl.

    I have a few empty ewes that i want to sell but can i sell them within the withdrawl or would anyone buy them knowing they cant be killed until march

    You'd imagine the only buyers for them would be lads carting them off to the factory the same day. I'm sure they'd buy them alright, but would heavily discount them. For what's it's worth I'd let them sit there for until end of withdrawal period and wouldn't take chance for the small few quid they bring.


  • #100
    Cran
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    roosky wrote: »
    hi all,

    I dosed all ewes before scanning with ridafluke which has a 60 day withdrawl.

    I have a few empty ewes that i want to sell but can i sell them within the withdrawl or would anyone buy them knowing they cant be killed until march

    Can't sell them in cull ring till withdrawal up


  • #101
    roosky
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    Green farmer wrote: »
    You'd imagine the only buyers for them would be lads carting them off to the factory the same day. I'm sure they'd buy them alright, but would heavily discount them. For what's it's worth I'd let them sit there for until end of withdrawal period and wouldn't take chance for the small few quid they bring.

    Thats what I was thinking, so does it pay to go to mart or should i just send them straight to the factory, if the other boys are just doing that?

    Was only selling them to clear the place a bit not for the gold rush they will bring !


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