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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 740 ✭✭✭IH784man


    Willfarman wrote: »
    Get a narrow trough and cut a ewes head sized hole out of the bottom of a wide enough bucket that will allow the ewe only to pull hay silage but not get her head into the trough.. Position bucket over ewes head.. Happy days... Feed double and triplets half a kg head twice a day..

    Feck it,I'll probably buy more through the week so I'll spilt them up in groups if more come to feed them make it simple


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭Dylan collins


    with this flukeiver when shall i give it to them next i gave it 5 weeks ago can anyone tell me when they should be dosed again


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭Dylan collins


    and aswell does that protect for worms or do i have to buy something else for worming


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,318 ✭✭✭razor8


    You shouldn't have to be worming adult ewes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭farawaygrass


    and aswell does that protect for worms or do i have to buy something else for worming

    Flukiver only does for fluke. I probably wouldn't be in a big rush to do them again too soon. Are they dirty? When are they lambing? Take it they are all out?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Interesting tweet about the future of the NZ sheep meat access to the EUROPEAN.

    https://twitter.com/farmersjournal/status/823995146027024385


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭roosky


    hi all,

    I dosed all ewes before scanning with ridafluke which has a 60 day withdrawl.

    I have a few empty ewes that i want to sell but can i sell them within the withdrawl or would anyone buy them knowing they cant be killed until march


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    roosky wrote: »
    hi all,

    I dosed all ewes before scanning with ridafluke which has a 60 day withdrawl.

    I have a few empty ewes that i want to sell but can i sell them within the withdrawl or would anyone buy them knowing they cant be killed until march

    You'd imagine the only buyers for them would be lads carting them off to the factory the same day. I'm sure they'd buy them alright, but would heavily discount them. For what's it's worth I'd let them sit there for until end of withdrawal period and wouldn't take chance for the small few quid they bring.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Cran


    roosky wrote: »
    hi all,

    I dosed all ewes before scanning with ridafluke which has a 60 day withdrawl.

    I have a few empty ewes that i want to sell but can i sell them within the withdrawl or would anyone buy them knowing they cant be killed until march

    Can't sell them in cull ring till withdrawal up


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭roosky


    You'd imagine the only buyers for them would be lads carting them off to the factory the same day. I'm sure they'd buy them alright, but would heavily discount them. For what's it's worth I'd let them sit there for until end of withdrawal period and wouldn't take chance for the small few quid they bring.

    Thats what I was thinking, so does it pay to go to mart or should i just send them straight to the factory, if the other boys are just doing that?

    Was only selling them to clear the place a bit not for the gold rush they will bring !


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    roosky wrote: »
    Thats what I was thinking, so does it pay to go to mart or should i just send them straight to the factory, if the other boys are just doing that?

    Was only selling them to clear the place a bit not for the gold rush they will bring !

    Not a good thing to do, you're unlikely to be caught, but some are caught.

    Shouldn't be writing it up here anyway


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭roosky


    rangler1 wrote: »
    Not a good thing to do, you're unlikely to be caught, but some are caught.

    Shouldn't be writing it up here anyway

    No, I have culls that weren't dosed that i would be sending to factory, wouldn't risk sending anything within a withdrawl......not worth the risk !


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭farawaygrass


    roosky wrote: »
    hi all,

    I dosed all ewes before scanning with ridafluke which has a 60 day withdrawl.

    I have a few empty ewes that i want to sell but can i sell them within the withdrawl or would anyone buy them knowing they cant be killed until march
    Same situation as me last year with sheep and clik I think it was. I brought them and announced the end of the withdrawal date and the product used to the auctioneer. It was written on the statement when I got the cheque too so I have it in writing too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭Dylan collins


    any man got good suggestions for what wormer to use for lambs
    -


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭Lambman


    any man got good suggestions for what wormer to use for lambs
    -
    Shouldn't need worming now If done properly I was using different wormer till fluke season then used duotech which supposedly does both but lost a few till fluke so have no faith in it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Just a reminder for lads who haven't already sent off the sheep census and welfare scheme forms, the closing date is next Tuesday so the letters have to be sent by post (registered post if you want proof of postage) on Monday at the latest.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭roosky


    Just a reminder for lads who haven't already sent off the sheep census and welfare scheme forms, the closing date is next Tuesday so the letters have to be sent by post (registered post if you want proof of postage) on Monday at the latest.

    is there anyway to check online that i am signed up to the sheep scheme, I sent in the forms but just like to get confirmation that all was okay


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    roosky wrote: »
    is there anyway to check online that i am signed up to the sheep scheme, I sent in the forms but just like to get confirmation that all was okay
    That I don't know, roosky. I was cleaning out the car today and came across the census and welfare scheme letters, thought I had them posted 2 weeks ago:o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    The handout from yesterday's National sheep conference is in a link in the tweet below. It should pass away a few hours reading.

    https://twitter.com/teagasc/status/826804436005769216


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    The handout from yesterday's National sheep conference is in a link in the tweet below. It should pass away a few hours reading.

    https://twitter.com/teagasc/status/826804436005769216

    WAS anyone at it, Farmers own story was very good , he brought his gross margin from about 300/ha to about 850/ha in four years and that was even with high mortality due to toxo last year. He's well on target for the 'magic' 1000/ha gross margin.
    He didn't build any extra accomodation but increased his numbers by 100 ewes and lambed the ewe lambs. Ideal subject to show what the Teagascs better farm project can do if they get a farmer that's not afraid of work. don't know if it's the same farmer in Carlow.
    Gottsteins presentation was a bit of crack too, about rearing orphan lambs


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,318 ✭✭✭razor8


    rangler1 wrote: »
    WAS anyone at it, Farmers own story was very good , he brought his gross margin from about 300/ha to about 850/ha in four years and that was even with high mortality due to toxo last year. He's well on target for the 'magic' 1000/ha gross margin.
    He didn't build any extra accomodation but increased his numbers by 100 ewes and lambed the ewe lambs. Ideal subject to show what the Teagascs better farm project can do if they get a farmer that's not afraid of work. don't know if it's the same farmer in Carlow.
    Gottsteins presentation was a bit of crack too, about rearing orphan lambs

    I was at it and thought it very good too. Just shows what of bit of focus and attention can do to bottom line.

    Not a mention or update of the New Zealand sheep in athenry.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,318 ✭✭✭razor8


    Anyone using smyths of liffords hi milk 19% ewe ration?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭Lambman


    razor8 wrote: »
    Anyone using smyths of liffords hi milk 19% ewe ration?
    Nope but this time next week I will be find smyths feeding stuff very good.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭Farrell


    Just noticed a springing Ewe with what looks like orf at the back of her teats.
    I don't remember it there when she lambed last year.
    If this is orf, would it be dead, or would it cause infection to the unborn lambs when the suckle


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    Farrell wrote: »
    Just noticed a springing Ewe with what looks like orf at the back of her teats.
    I don't remember it there when she lambed last year.
    If this is orf, would it be dead, or would it cause infection to the unborn lambs when the suckle

    is it just a lump on then teat or an open sore


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,981 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    roosky wrote: »
    No, I have culls that weren't dosed that i would be sending to factory, wouldn't risk sending anything within a withdrawl......not worth the risk !

    Good man! The Dept AO's are constantly taking samples.

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭Farrell


    rangler1 wrote: »
    is it just a lump on then teat or an open sore
    Looks to be a lump


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Farrell wrote: »
    Looks to be a lump
    I'd say that it's not infectious at this stage whatever it is. BUT I'd be watching her lambs and maybe mark her for culling

    Edit-maybe some sudocreme if it's sore looking


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    Farrell wrote: »
    Looks to be a lump

    sometimes a bite on the teat turns into a lump of scar tissue the following year, I'd say that's what you have, most are harmless but an odd one blocks the milk


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  • Registered Users Posts: 409 ✭✭390kid


    Have a ewe that lambed Thursday night with triplets. She's making an awful creaking and cracking sound when she goes to get up and lie down? Can anyone shed any light on this for me? I've gave 50 ml of calcium and a life aid to just to be sure.


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