was there a riot of 250 people in henry street in dublin on dec 26th??

dav3 · 14-01-2017 10:40AM

All these court cases against poor leo are all a conspiracy to silence him from reporting events like this one. A conspiracy from the PC, god hating commie, married gay, abortion loving brigade…even though the Guards have stated there was no riot.

Let’s take a look at the timeline of just one of the many pending court cases against the fake news website liberal.ie.

On November 18th (38 days before the “riot”), a case was filed in Ardee district court giving Leo 28 days to admit or dispute the claim of plagiarism. Leo chose to ignore it.

On December 26th, just days before a letter of warning, which he knew about, was about to pop through his letterbox by CCC Nuacht’s solicitor. A story of a minor scuffle and regular occurrence on Mary/Henry street fell into his lap.

Now, I’m not a fancy, big-city lawyer, but…

14-01-2017 10:45AM

conorhal wrote: »

AS I said, it's indicative of a growing underbelly of disenfranchised migrants youths from ghettoized areas creating a problem. People are ignoring the fact that we are creating the Irish equivalent of the Parisian banlieues, large sprawling migrant suburbs with unintegrated migrant populations seething with crime, unemployment and alienation.
We don't need to create that problem here, nobody want's it.
I'm baffled that, with all the hindsight in the world available from across the water, why our government is intent on replicating the very same mistakes as the Blair government did. I'm baffled by the fact that whenever the UK make a stupid decision that Ireland, with a depressing inevitably, seems to copy it and double down on it for some bizzare reason.

Seriously.
Fights happen all the time. I have been to many organised fights between youths from different areas.
Not sure what your rant about immigrants blah blah blah is about. Is it because someone said they were black?

conorhal · 14-01-2017 10:53AM

bubblypop wrote: »

Seriously.
Fights happen all the time. I have been to many organised fights between youths from different areas.
Not sure what your rant about immigrants blah blah blah is about. Is it because someone said they were black?

In other words, 'ah sure it'll be grand'. Head back in sand. Don't be surprised when that attitude creates an Irish Trump.

Outlaw Pete · 14-01-2017 11:04AM

dav3 wrote: »

All these court cases against poor leo are all a conspiracy to silence him from reporting events like this one. A conspiracy from the PC, god hating commie, married gay, abortion loving brigade…even though the Guards have stated there was no riot.

Let’s take a look at the timeline of just one of the many pending court cases against the fake news website liberal.ie.

On November 18th (38 days before the “riot”), a case was filed in Ardee district court giving Leo 28 days to admit or dispute the claim of plagiarism. Leo chose to ignore it.

On December 26th, just days before a letter of warning, which he knew about, was about to pop through his letterbox by CCC Nuacht’s solicitor. A story of a minor scuffle and regular occurrence on Mary/Henry street fell into his lap.

Now, I’m not a fancy, big-city lawyer, but…

Wait. so the cops knew internal affairs were setting them up?

14-01-2017 11:29AM

conorhal wrote: »

In other words, 'ah sure it'll be grand'. Head back in sand. Don't be surprised when that attitude creates an Irish Trump.

What are you talking about?!
There was, maybe, a bit of an organised fight in town, has happened for years & I'm sure will continue to happen.
Usually teens/early 20s.
Dunno what Donald Trump has to do with anything.

Little CuChulainn · 14-01-2017 11:34AM

conorhal wrote: »

My own opinions is that there probably was a fracas (not a riot) on the street between large groups of mainly black teenagers in town, this happens all the time (and not just or even frequently involving ethnic minorities).
All of that is what the point is not.
The point is that we have had no genuine discussion about immigration in this country and we have instead defaulted to the usual Irish policy of 'ah sure it'll be grand'.
The BBC has admitted this week in a report that it had a heavy bias in favor of immigration as a policy in it's reporting and a policy of under reporting and not representing negative views in discussions on immigration for fear of stoking racial hatred.
The media here is worse, there is not merely a mild bias but zero discussion at all and that fact more then any creates a space for sites like theliberal.ie to work in. People see what's going on in front of their eyes and know perfectly well that reality isn't reflected in the media depiction of this country.
The reality is that we are sleepwalking into the same problems as other European nations have experienced with mass immigration from the third world and the establishment press and politicians won't admit it or discuss it.
The real point is this, why are we building mass ghettos of migrants?
Do we really imagine things will be different here to elsewhere?
It's a topic worthy of discussion, there are no shortage of quite heavily trafficked threads on Boards regarding it so it's not as if the topic isn't part of the public zeitgiest, yet there is near total silence in the mainstream media about it.

What's this got to do with immigration?

Annasopra · 14-01-2017 11:38AM

Collie D wrote: »

So what conclusion do you draw from that?

A. It's a liberal cover-up
B. Something happened but to nowhere near the extent that has been reported
C. Nothing happened

Part A Part B

conorhal · 14-01-2017 12:52PM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

What's this got to do with immigration?

Eh... everything. :rolleyes:

Annasopra · 14-01-2017 12:58PM

conorhal wrote: »

Eh... everything. :rolleyes:

Yeah basically the thesis is... white christian Irish good.... black any other religion or nationality bad and there was no crime in Ireland back in the day cause we only we only ever had White Christian Irish people here.

Bicky bicky · 14-01-2017 12:59PM

conorhal wrote: »

Eh... everything. :rolleyes:

Because they were reported to be "black" they could be more Irish than me and you!

(I loving hearing a thick Dublin accent on someone of African descent)

Little CuChulainn · 14-01-2017 01:01PM

conorhal wrote: »

Eh... everything. :rolleyes:

Do you think all black people and people who hang around with them are immigrants?

Ronaldinho · 14-01-2017 01:03PM

Can they just release a video of this so we can all move on.

Sad indictment of the media and/or our trust in the media (both very justifiable IMHO but that's for another thread) that the thread title is still an open question a few weeks later.

conorhal · 14-01-2017 01:06PM

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Yeah basically the thesis is... white christian Irish good.... black any other religion or nationality bad and there was no crime in Ireland back in the day cause we only we only ever had White Christian Irish people here.

That's not my thesis, that's your strawman argument and don't even pretend otherwise.

What I did actually say is that mass immigration is creating a growing underbelly of disenfranchised migrants youths from ghettoized areas creating a problem. People are ignoring the fact that we are creating the Irish equivalent of the Parisian banlieues, large sprawling migrant suburbs with unintegrated migrant populations seething with crime, unemployment and alienation.
We don't need to create that problem here, nobody want's it.

That's a separate problem from indigenous crime and social issues that you are deliberately ignoring (just as the BBC have admitted in their recently published report), simply because you don't want to talk about it and paint anybody that does is 'a deplorable'. 4Well as Brexit and Trump have shown, that's not a position that's going to work out well for you.

C. Montgomery Gurns · 14-01-2017 01:09PM

conorhal wrote: »

AS I said, it's indicative of a growing underbelly of disenfranchised migrants youths from ghettoized areas creating a problem. People are ignoring the fact that we are creating the Irish equivalent of the Parisian banlieues, large sprawling migrant suburbs with unintegrated migrant populations seething with crime, unemployment and alienation.
.

The old "no facilities" argument.

There isn't a single local authority estate in Dublin that is more than a 30 minute walk (and in most cases much less) from a soccer, gah, hurling, boxing, MMA, judo, karate, or rugby club. Literally everywhere in Dublin is within a short walk or bus trip of places for kids to entertain themselves (cinemas, bowling, playgrounds, parks). There are country towns I know of with nothing but a GAA football team, Irish dancing for the girls and a vandalised beyond use playground with not nearly half as much social problems as areas which apparently have "nothing for the kids to do" when there are upwards of a dozen different activities/ venues for kids to spend their time at.

osarusan · 14-01-2017 01:17PM

conorhal wrote: »

People are ignoring the fact that we are creating the Irish equivalent of the Parisian banlieues, large sprawling migrant suburbs with unintegrated migrant populations seething with crime, unemployment and alienation.

Where are these large sprawling migrant suburbs with unintegrated migrant populations seething with crime, unemployment and alienation?

I mean, can you give me a list of the top 3 please.

Squidgy Black · 14-01-2017 01:21PM

osarusan wrote: »

Where are these large sprawling migrant suburbs with unintegrated migrant populations seething with crime, unemployment and alienation?

I mean, can you give me a list of the top 3 please.

Dunno about unintegrated but definitely

Jobstown
Ongar/Clonsilla/Tyrrelstown

C. Montgomery Gurns · 14-01-2017 01:21PM

osarusan wrote: »

Where are these large sprawling migrant suburbs with unintegrated migrant populations seething with crime, unemployment and alienation?

I mean, can you give me a list of the top 3 please.

I have no idea about the crime rate but there is an atrocious unemployment rate among some pockets of foreign nationals in Tyrellstown in D15.

https://www.fiannafail.ie/most-disadvantaged-school-in-west-dublin-refused-deis-status-ff/

Considering Dublin is back to a stage of full employment for anyone who wants it, this is an appalling figure.

And I know this is only a study of 30 families, but my god.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/racism-and-poverty-affect-roma-lives-in-ireland-report-finds-1.2835487

90 percent of those surveyed in Balbriggan unemployed and we pick up the tab.

conorhal · 14-01-2017 01:22PM

C. Montgomery Gurns wrote: »

The old "no facilities" argument.

There isn't a single local authority estate in Dublin that is more than a 30 minute walk (and in most cases much less) from a soccer, gah, hurling, boxing, MMA, judo, karate, or rugby club. Literally everywhere in Dublin is within a short walk or bus trip of places for kids to entertain themselves (cinemas, bowling, playgrounds, parks). There are country towns I know of with nothing but a GAA football team, Irish dancing for the girls and a vandalised beyond use playground with not nearly half as much social problems as areas which apparently have "nothing for the kids to do" when there are upwards of a dozen different activities/ venues for kids to spend their time at.

Yeah I know, I go through Jobstown every day, there are plenty of basket ball courts, playing fields, community halls, medical centers, community gyms, community stables, (yes stables FFS in fact every other building seems like it's a community something-or-other) and other resources per head of it's population then you'll see anywhere else.
The poverty in the area is cultural as opposed to financial. And I'm generally opposed to the suggestion that unless the kids have 'something to do' or we fail to provide them with endless distractions then of course they're going to turn to crime and wreck the place.

conorhal · 14-01-2017 01:31PM

osarusan wrote: »

Where are these large sprawling migrant suburbs with unintegrated migrant populations seething with crime, unemployment and alienation?

I mean, can you give me a list of the top 3 please.

I said we're busy building them, give them time, we've only been at this lark 20yrs. But take a wander around certain parts of Tallaght or Tyrrelstown.
Or take a stroll through Ballyhaunis where Irish people are already a minority in their own town, which has seen growing tensions.
What evidence do you have we aren't going to end up with the exact same problems as the UK?

C. Montgomery Gurns · 14-01-2017 01:33PM

P. Breathnach wrote: »

For all of you doubters seeking proof: here it is from an impeccable source:
http://theliberal.ie/must-watch-st-stephens-day-dublin-riot-victims-speak-out/

Their style of writing is just so amateurish :pac::pac:

P. Breathnach · 14-01-2017 01:34PM

C. Montgomery Gurns wrote: »

Their style of writing is just so amateurish :pac::pac:

Sorry. I just deleted my post!

The Backwards Man · 14-01-2017 01:39PM

Ballyhaunis has now joined the ranks of Malmo and Brussels as no-go areas.

Right leaning hysterical snowflakes should rise up as one to protect Claremorris from the invading horde, or one of Mick Flavin's most iconic songs will be lost to the world forever.

This is serious business folks.

Little CuChulainn · 14-01-2017 01:40PM

conorhal wrote: »

I said we're busy building them, give them time, we've only been at this lark 20yrs. But take a wander around certain parts of Tallaght or Tyrrelstown.
Or take a stroll through Ballyhaunis where Irish people are already a minority in their own town, which has seen growing tensions.
What evidence do you have we aren't going to end up with the exact same problems as the UK?

You still haven't linked the alleged riot in the city center to immigration.

C. Montgomery Gurns · 14-01-2017 01:41PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Ballyhaunis has now joined the ranks of Malmo and Brussels as no-go areas.

Right leaning hysterical snowflakes should rise up as one to protect Claremorris from the invading horde, or one of Mick Flavin's most iconic songs will be lost to the world forever.

This is serious business folks.

So you concede Malmo and Brussels have no go zones? One of the Paris bombers lived there in the near open for months- people knew he was in the area.

Little CuChulainn · 14-01-2017 01:43PM

C. Montgomery Gurns wrote: »

So you concede Malmo and Brussels have no go zones? One of the Paris bombers lived there in the near open for months- people knew he was in the area.

Dublin has no go areas, and it's nothing to do with immigrants.

gitzy16v · 14-01-2017 01:43PM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

Dublin has no go areas, and it's nothing to do with immigrants.

No it doesnt

The Backwards Man · 14-01-2017 01:44PM

C. Montgomery Gurns wrote: »

So you concede Malmo and Brussels have no go zones? One of the Paris bombers lived there in the near open for months- people knew he was in the area.

Nope, I concede that anyone who thinks that is a cowardly idiot who would crap themselves if they had to leave their Mammy's boxroom though.

Is that close enough?

Little CuChulainn · 14-01-2017 01:46PM

gitzy16v wrote: »

No it doesnt

Yes it does.

gitzy16v · 14-01-2017 01:46PM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

Yes it does.

Where?

Bicky bicky · 14-01-2017 01:47PM

https://twitter.com/schnellelive/status/813454020480221184

Aaron and heather's accounts have nothing relevant the plot thickens!

was there a riot of 250 people in henry street in dublin on dec 26th??

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