conorhal wrote: » AS I said, it's indicative of a growing underbelly of disenfranchised migrants youths from ghettoized areas creating a problem. People are ignoring the fact that we are creating the Irish equivalent of the Parisian banlieues, large sprawling migrant suburbs with unintegrated migrant populations seething with crime, unemployment and alienation. We don't need to create that problem here, nobody want's it. I'm baffled that, with all the hindsight in the world available from across the water, why our government is intent on replicating the very same mistakes as the Blair government did. I'm baffled by the fact that whenever the UK make a stupid decision that Ireland, with a depressing inevitably, seems to copy it and double down on it for some bizzare reason.
bubblypop wrote: » Seriously. Fights happen all the time. I have been to many organised fights between youths from different areas. Not sure what your rant about immigrants blah blah blah is about. Is it because someone said they were black?
dav3 wrote: » All these court cases against poor leo are all a conspiracy to silence him from reporting events like this one. A conspiracy from the PC, god hating commie, married gay, abortion loving brigade…even though the Guards have stated there was no riot. Let’s take a look at the timeline of just one of the many pending court cases against the fake news website liberal.ie. On November 18th (38 days before the “riot”), a case was filed in Ardee district court giving Leo 28 days to admit or dispute the claim of plagiarism. Leo chose to ignore it. On December 26th, just days before a letter of warning, which he knew about, was about to pop through his letterbox by CCC Nuacht’s solicitor. A story of a minor scuffle and regular occurrence on Mary/Henry street fell into his lap. Now, I’m not a fancy, big-city lawyer, but…
conorhal wrote: » In other words, 'ah sure it'll be grand'. Head back in sand. Don't be surprised when that attitude creates an Irish Trump.
conorhal wrote: » My own opinions is that there probably was a fracas (not a riot) on the street between large groups of mainly black teenagers in town, this happens all the time (and not just or even frequently involving ethnic minorities). All of that is what the point is not. The point is that we have had no genuine discussion about immigration in this country and we have instead defaulted to the usual Irish policy of 'ah sure it'll be grand'. The BBC has admitted this week in a report that it had a heavy bias in favor of immigration as a policy in it's reporting and a policy of under reporting and not representing negative views in discussions on immigration for fear of stoking racial hatred. The media here is worse, there is not merely a mild bias but zero discussion at all and that fact more then any creates a space for sites like theliberal.ie to work in. People see what's going on in front of their eyes and know perfectly well that reality isn't reflected in the media depiction of this country. The reality is that we are sleepwalking into the same problems as other European nations have experienced with mass immigration from the third world and the establishment press and politicians won't admit it or discuss it. The real point is this, why are we building mass ghettos of migrants? Do we really imagine things will be different here to elsewhere? It's a topic worthy of discussion, there are no shortage of quite heavily trafficked threads on Boards regarding it so it's not as if the topic isn't part of the public zeitgiest, yet there is near total silence in the mainstream media about it.
Collie D wrote: » So what conclusion do you draw from that? A. It's a liberal cover-up B. Something happened but to nowhere near the extent that has been reported C. Nothing happened
Little CuChulainn wrote: » What's this got to do with immigration?
conorhal wrote: » Eh... everything. :rolleyes:
Joeytheparrot wrote: » Yeah basically the thesis is... white christian Irish good.... black any other religion or nationality bad and there was no crime in Ireland back in the day cause we only we only ever had White Christian Irish people here.
conorhal wrote: » AS I said, it's indicative of a growing underbelly of disenfranchised migrants youths from ghettoized areas creating a problem. People are ignoring the fact that we are creating the Irish equivalent of the Parisian banlieues, large sprawling migrant suburbs with unintegrated migrant populations seething with crime, unemployment and alienation. .
conorhal wrote: » People are ignoring the fact that we are creating the Irish equivalent of the Parisian banlieues, large sprawling migrant suburbs with unintegrated migrant populations seething with crime, unemployment and alienation.
osarusan wrote: » Where are these large sprawling migrant suburbs with unintegrated migrant populations seething with crime, unemployment and alienation? I mean, can you give me a list of the top 3 please.
C. Montgomery Gurns wrote: » The old "no facilities" argument. There isn't a single local authority estate in Dublin that is more than a 30 minute walk (and in most cases much less) from a soccer, gah, hurling, boxing, MMA, judo, karate, or rugby club. Literally everywhere in Dublin is within a short walk or bus trip of places for kids to entertain themselves (cinemas, bowling, playgrounds, parks). There are country towns I know of with nothing but a GAA football team, Irish dancing for the girls and a vandalised beyond use playground with not nearly half as much social problems as areas which apparently have "nothing for the kids to do" when there are upwards of a dozen different activities/ venues for kids to spend their time at.
P. Breathnach wrote: » For all of you doubters seeking proof: here it is from an impeccable source:http://theliberal.ie/must-watch-st-stephens-day-dublin-riot-victims-speak-out/
C. Montgomery Gurns wrote: » Their style of writing is just so amateurish :pac::pac:
conorhal wrote: » I said we're busy building them, give them time, we've only been at this lark 20yrs. But take a wander around certain parts of Tallaght or Tyrrelstown. Or take a stroll through Ballyhaunis where Irish people are already a minority in their own town, which has seen growing tensions. What evidence do you have we aren't going to end up with the exact same problems as the UK?
The Backwards Man wrote: » Ballyhaunis has now joined the ranks of Malmo and Brussels as no-go areas. Right leaning hysterical snowflakes should rise up as one to protect Claremorris from the invading horde, or one of Mick Flavin's most iconic songs will be lost to the world forever. This is serious business folks.
C. Montgomery Gurns wrote: » So you concede Malmo and Brussels have no go zones? One of the Paris bombers lived there in the near open for months- people knew he was in the area.
Little CuChulainn wrote: » Dublin has no go areas, and it's nothing to do with immigrants.
gitzy16v wrote: » No it doesnt
Little CuChulainn wrote: » Yes it does.
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