Dairy chit chat II

yewtree · 04-01-2017 04:39PM

Sillycave wrote: »

Might request results more often, thank didn't know you could
Tank maintenance man has lived in the place over the last two years as has looked at washer a couple of times and says it okay
Have Gas DX Cooler, got a new one last year, was running perfectly after it was installed i.e. reading were very good, then readings would return high and then back low and then high again.
Trying to gauge what are other peoples washing routines?

I had similar issues in 2015, The auto washer wasn't taking up enough detergent. One of the inlets of pipes was slightly blocked. I always keep an eye on how clean the tank is after each wash now, Looking back there was a slight discolouration inside the tank. Do you ever check sides of tank to check for build up? Some of fats and proteins can be hard shifted from tank sides.
Our Tbc was 12 for 2016 nothing special but no issues with fines

Sillycave · 04-01-2017 05:02PM

freedominacup wrote: »

Are you hot washing?

Hot Wash the Machine or the tank?
But a yes for both, Machine gets at least one hot wash a week, normally two, tank is washed with hot water everytime with the automatic washer, according to temp stat it runs up to around 45 degrees

whelan2 · 04-01-2017 05:08PM

Sillycave wrote: »

Hot Wash the Machine or the tank?
But a yes for both, Machine gets at least one hot wash a week, normally two, tank is washed with hot water everytime with the automatic washer, according to temp stat it runs up to around 45 degrees

Is that temperature high enough? Mine goes to around 60 degrees and alarm Will sound if its not hot enough for long enough. How long is the wash cycle?

Sillycave · 04-01-2017 05:08PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Automatic washer on the tank here as well. Two caustic followed by an acid wash in rotation. Water pressure wouldn't be great here so I tend to double up the washes if the TBC goes over 20. I'd put two washes on for a few collections after checking that there is no obvious things like a lump of stuff not being washed off the tank or agitator.

Probably a poor question but what do you mean by caustic wash?
Did do double washes where time allowed but still didn't see the results decrease

yewtree wrote: »

I had similar issues in 2015, The auto washer wasn't taking up enough detergent. One of the inlets of pipes was slightly blocked. I always keep an eye on how clean the tank is after each wash now, Looking back there was a slight discolouration inside the tank. Do you ever check sides of tank to check for build up? Some of fats and proteins can be hard shifted from tank sides.
Our Tbc was 12 for 2016 nothing special but no issues with fines

Yes had a problem with the pipes coming from the detergent bowl as it had split but replaced that but still had issues.
I been honest i use not to look inside stupidly but i do now, thats why i started with more acid washes as it looks cleaner inside after it.

Dont really know where to go from here

Sillycave · 04-01-2017 05:11PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Is that temperature high enough? Mine goes to around 60 degrees and alarm Will sound if its not hot enough for long enough. How long is the wash cycle?

Not sure, maintenance man said it was hot enough and thats what all the tanks he does is doing but milkman said it wasn't!!
Mine doesn't go anywhere near 60
Wash cycle is the guts of an hour

atlantic mist · 04-01-2017 05:16PM

does anyone know how or if its possible to buy pass sensors on hydraulic scrapers? we have dairypower scrapers

had tbc issue on tank over xmas was a result of gas leak in tank

mahoney_j · 04-01-2017 05:30PM

Finally getting a fixed price scheme in arrabawn ,30.6 cent per litre at 3.6 and 3.3 for 3 years .what do yos think .......

yewtree · 04-01-2017 06:02PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Finally getting a fixed price scheme in arrabawn ,30.6 cent per litre at 3.6 and 3.3 for 3 years .what do yos think .......

Nearly identical to latest Aurivo scheme, I put 10% of 2015 supply into it, at the fixed price you would have been on the right of milk price for two of the last 3 years.

kevthegaff · 04-01-2017 06:03PM

mahoney_j wrote:

Finally getting a fixed price scheme in arrabawn ,30.6 cent per litre at 3.6 and 3.3 for 3 years .what do yos think .......

Wish there was none, hard to know how much % of supply?

kevthegaff · 04-01-2017 06:04PM

Dosed everything again today, Albex and lice. First round was for rumen fluke and ibr. Tired now

mahoney_j · 04-01-2017 06:05PM

kevthegaff wrote: »

Wish there was none, hard to know how much % of supply?

I'm delighted and this is not ahead of time ,10% of supply possibly more

alps · 04-01-2017 06:06PM

atlantic mist wrote: »

does anyone know how or if its possible to buy pass sensors on hydraulic scrapers? we have dairypower scrapers

had tbc issue on tank over xmas was a result of gas leak in tank

What's the problem with them mist? It the scraper runs for 10 seconds and then stops without tripping out with a red light it is probably the sensor that the scraper parks itself against is faulty. The sensor wires run back know into the round white junction box and is very easy to disconnect. Once disconnected the scrapers will run but will not stop when it returns to the park position. They will keep running for 2 or 3 rotations until an inbuilt timer trips out. You will have to manually restart to run again.

You should also ask the service man what he is out the next time for a stud/bolt that's fits in place of the solenoid, in the event of one of the scrapers or its electrical channel not working. When the solenoid is replaced with the bolt the scraper on that channel will run in tandem with the channel that is working properly, which is incredibly handy when you have a problem.

tanko · 04-01-2017 06:10PM

kevthegaff wrote: »

Dosed everything again today, Albex and lice. First round was for rumen fluke and ibr. Tired now

What did you use for lice?

charolais0153 · 04-01-2017 06:43PM

On very bare fields would ye put out sluurey or urea

mahoney_j · 04-01-2017 06:47PM

charolais0153 wrote: »

On very bare fields would ye put out sluurey or urea

Slurry next week once dates allow 2500 gallons ,1 bag urea mid February

degetme · 04-01-2017 06:56PM

Lads what's the highest grass cover ye would put out 2.5k gallons an acre of slurry with the splash plate? Is 500 to 700 too strong?

Mooooo · 04-01-2017 08:01PM

Sillycave wrote: »

Had serious issues with TBC last year (2016) which i think is mainly due to tank i reckon.
Had a few issues since we got this tank 2 years ago but thought had it all rectified but had serious issues with TBC this year which hurt
Just wondering what do people do with regards the washing routine of there tank and if you have any solutions to high TBC so this problem doesn't occur again, thanks

Any chance the tank is freezing the milk? Would that effect tbc? No issues with ours, one thing service man told me was to flush the caustic line with hot water as sometimes it can block, avalkasan anyway. Had issues before with old parlour and came under control when I started using fresh detergent for every wash in machine

whelan2 · 04-01-2017 08:03PM

tanko wrote: »

What did you use for lice?

I used ectospec on mine yesterday

ted_182 · 04-01-2017 08:18PM

Sillycave wrote:

Had serious issues with TBC last year (2016) which i think is mainly due to tank i reckon. Had a few issues since we got this tank 2 years ago but thought had it all rectified but had serious issues with TBC this year which hurt Just wondering what do people do with regards the washing routine of there tank and if you have any solutions to high TBC so this problem doesn't occur again, thanks

Might be worth making sure your water heater is turned up to the max and its working 100% like drawing full current

ted_182 · 04-01-2017 08:21PM

degetme wrote:

Lads what's the highest grass cover ye would put out 2.5k gallons an acre of slurry with the splash plate? Is 500 to 700 too strong?

As long as you'd be sure of a few showers of rain in the days after spreading I would say spreading on those covers would be fine just make sure splash plate is spreading nice and even

Buford T. Justice XIX · 04-01-2017 08:46PM

Sillycave wrote: »

Probably a poor question but what do you mean by caustic wash?
Did do double washes where time allowed but still didn't see the results decrease

The acid wash is for lime scale to prevent it building up. We would have very limey water here so we would be doing an acid wash at least once a week on the milking machine and the milk tank.

The caustic or detergent wash is for cleaning the milk fats off the machine and tank.

Your problem might be in the milking machine rather than the tank. If it leaves the machine with a high tbc, the tank isn't going to improve it. As someone posted earlier, you could check the water tank temperature to make sure it's hot enough and try checking the milking machine at different points to see if there is any build up of dirt there.

Signpost · 05-01-2017 01:21AM

No SCC issues but I want to cull out anything that might be spreading infection next year so going to start cluster dipping. Not to ask a stupid question, but, as someone who has never done it whats the craic with it? Do I just get a few buckets, put in 10 ml of Peracetic Acid per 10 litres of water, dip clusters right to bottom of the bucket and put it on next cow and replace buckets of water after each milking? No doubt the most obvious thing in the world but not sure whats the best practice!

Timmaay · 05-01-2017 08:37AM

Signpost wrote: »

No SCC issues but I want to cull out anything that might be spreading infection next year so going to start cluster dipping. Not to ask a stupid question, but, as someone who has never done it whats the craic with it? Do I just get a few buckets, put in 10 ml of Peracetic Acid per 10 litres of water, dip clusters right to bottom of the bucket and put it on next cow and replace buckets of water after each milking? No doubt the most obvious thing in the world but not sure whats the best practice!

That's the idea in theory, however you'd want to make sure you only dip the likes of 10 clusters max into each bucket before you make up a fresh mix, otherwise all you will have is a bucket of dirty water which will be like a magnet for transferring infections between clusters! I did it for afew months here back on my old 6unit parlour when I could never really get the scc under 250. I can't say if it helped at all, however it was a right pain in the hole, and I certainly wouldn't bother again unless it was guaranteed to be of a benefit.
Nowadays I'm very lazy with my routine, no prep, clusters straight on, cows sprayed after with teat dip, that's it, scc usually 100-150. Mostly under 100 at the sec on the cubicles which is a surprise, only think I can put that down to is the cows are less density packed on the cubicles at the min, alot more feed space also, so less stress. Still too many individual cases of mastitis but ya can't win them all.

Sillycave · 05-01-2017 10:06AM

Mooooo wrote: »

Any chance the tank is freezing the milk? Would that effect tbc? No issues with ours, one thing service man told me was to flush the caustic line with hot water as sometimes it can block, avalkasan anyway. Had issues before with old parlour and came under control when I started using fresh detergent for every wash in machine

Yes the tank does freeze at the sides but only when the first milking goes into it, after the second milking this doesn't happen, could this be the issue?

ted_182 wrote: »

Might be worth making sure your water heater is turned up to the max and its working 100% like drawing full current

Only after installing a new water heater so hopefully this might help the issue.

thanks to all for the replies

Mooooo · 05-01-2017 10:43AM

Sillycave wrote: »

Yes the tank does freeze at the sides but only when the first milking goes into it, after the second milking this doesn't happen, could this be the issue?

Only after installing a new water heater so hopefully this might help the issue.

thanks to all for the replies

I think the freezing could be an issue, I don't turn on the tank for first milking till about 250/300L is gone in. Had a high tbc during the year here, came in second collection of a split collection. First tanker took most but not all of it, second tanker came following the next milking but both collections were over same period as one normal collection in time frame so milk not in tank too long. Reckon after first collection tank froze the milk on the sides and that effected it. Old Icebank collections would have often been split and never an issue but that would never have frozen the milk/residue on side of tank

alps · 05-01-2017 10:46AM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Slurry next week once dates allow 2500 gallons ,1 bag urea mid February

Bad journalism abounds...

Agriland says we can spread on the 12th....Journal says it's the 13th...

mahoney_j · 05-01-2017 11:17AM

alps wrote: »

Bad journalism abounds...

Agriland says we can spread on the 12th....Journal says it's the 13th...

Hope to have 2/3 hours spreading done this day next week ,I'm fooked if I'm wasting another day after wasting 2/3 months of near perfect ground and spreading conditions ...

kevthegaff · 05-01-2017 04:33PM

What are the best push lime dispenser?

freedominacup · 05-01-2017 08:19PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Hope to have 2/3 hours spreading done this day next week ,I'm fooked if I'm wasting another day after wasting 2/3 months of near perfect ground and spreading conditions ...

If right was right instead of political rather than scientific basis for these descions every tank, lagoon, pit and tower in the southern half of the country at least would be empty to the sump today and the work done in perfect conditions. Couldn't have got it more wrong if they set out to fck it up from the start. A neighbour got it right. The day before New year's eve he had a 4k and a 2.5k tank working from dawn to dusk literally. Probably put out 120k gals plus that day. Still hasn't seen a drop of rain. Forecast for next week broken at best. But an arbitrary data in a calender will have passed.

freedominacup · 05-01-2017 08:23PM

In other news out esteemed board members are setting themselves up to blow a cool €200,000,000 on glanbia agribusiness. Rumour I heard today. Talk about monkeys with the key to the banana plantation.

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