Dairy chit chat II

whelan2

How long does biestings stay ok in the freezer?

farmerjj

whelan2 wrote: »

How long does biestings stay ok in the freezer?

I,v often kept it in for a year and had no problems feeding to a calf, wouldn't leave it much longer though

farmerjj

I,v a few yearlings that I made a mess of dehorning last spring and gotta dehorn properly now, they have 3/4inch horns is it a good time of year to do it seen as there on slats?

blackdog1

farmerjj wrote:

I,v a few yearlings that I made a mess of dehorning last spring and gotta dehorn properly now, they have 3/4inch horns is it a good time of year to do it seen as there on slats?

I have 1 or 2 myself that I missed. Waiting for the spring to do it, you want very little stress on the animal as possible and no flies around.

Water John

Well you won't have flies today, anyway.
Doing them a second time, they tend to have a lot of blood vessels.
Rubber band on for a few days, stops that.

alps

Just watched "Farmer in charge" on RTE player. That man Maurice Walsh is some advertisement for farming.....if anyone knows him...congratulate him for us

degetme

I know of him and where hes farming.I've seen him in action doing m.c for different events. Well able to work the microphone

greysides

farmerjj wrote: »

I,v a few yearlings that I made a mess of dehorning last spring and gotta dehorn properly now, they have 3/4inch horns is it a good time of year to do it seen as there on slats?

It's not. Mainly due to the amount of pneumonia still knocking around. After that it's personal preference. Mine would be not to do them inside.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Ghina has opened a new rail corridor between London and China which is faster than sea and cheaper than air. It takes 2 weeks to travel the complete route.

It could be an interesting freight route for powder.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-38497997

Buford T. Justice XIX

If you're having mobility problems while milking, this might be the solution.

http://www.farmersjournal.ie/watch-milking-cows-on-a-hoverboard-246139

I have to admit I am interested:-)

Water John

Container by sea takes 5 weeks.

Timmaay

What is the story with getting entitlements on land that has none now? Can't get national reserve because my 5yrs are up now.

Mooooo

Dry cow just after throwing a calf. Far enough along that maybe a hurt caused it, hopefully nothing more sinister. Will take to lab 2moro anyway. Fr bull, she didn't spring up, will milk her in morning anyway. Must check what I dried her off with, if cepravin she may not be fit for tank for a number of weeks, may just send her off if that's the case and she doesn't come to milk properly. Nice tidy second calver tho

greysides

Mooooo wrote: »

Dry cow just after throwing a calf. Far enough along that maybe a hurt caused it, hopefully nothing more sinister. Will take to lab 2moro anyway. Fr bull, she didn't spring up, will milk her in morning anyway. Must check what I dried her off with, if cepravin she may not be fit for tank for a number of weeks, may just send her off if that's the case and she doesn't come to milk properly. Nice tidy second calver tho

Always worth sending to the lab when anyway feasible. I've just had a result back for a client of Salmonella abortion, at 6 months, despite him vaccinating. It may mean the vaccination schedule will have to be amended... good to know.... rather than assuming it was a 'hurt'.

Mooooo

greysides wrote: »

Always worth sending to the lab when anyway feasible. I've just had a result back for a client of Salmonella abortion, at 6 months, despite him vaccinating. It may mean the vaccination schedule will have to be amended... good to know.... rather than assuming it was a 'hurt'.

We do most of the time here unless foetus is destroyed or too long out when it's found . She had cleaning licked off him by time I gathered him up, remember being told to bring cleaning as well if it was there, is there more to be found out from that as opposed to the actual calf?

Signpost

Haven't thankfully lost a calf like this in years and years but out of interest where do you take / send the calf to? Should it in theory not be tagged and sent to knackery by right?

tanko

Signpost wrote: »

Haven't thankfully lost a calf like this in years and years but out of interest where do you take / send the calf to? Should it in theory not be tagged and sent to knackery by right?

You take the calf to a department lab eg Sligo or Athlone. Your vet books it in for you.

greysides

Mooooo wrote: »

... is there more to be found out from that as opposed to the actual calf?

Damage to the cleaning, as opposed to damage to the foetus, may often be the cause of the abortion so the cleaning being sent off also increases the chances of an answer. Because an abortion may happen quite a while after the initial damage many samples yield no useful microbial results and a definitive diagnosis just isn't possible in a lot, maybe the majority, of cases. That delay is the reason it's hard to diagnose Leptospiral abortion from bloods. The blood antibody levels may have disappeared by the time the abortion occurs.

The Salmonella in the case I referred to was found in the stomach contents of the foetus.

Signpost

& do you tag it before you send it off? Good to know these things in case the day arises!

greysides

It is still a legal obligation, I believe, to have all aborted dams blood tested for Brucellosis. The dept the vet will pay for the visit.

tanko

Signpost wrote: »

& do you tag it before you send it off? Good to know these things in case the day arises!

Yeah, you do.

alps

greysides wrote: »

It is still a legal obligation, I believe, to have all aborted dams blood tested for Brucellosis. The dept the vet will pay for the visit.

Down our way the dam has to be blooded twice. The dept definitely pay for one. ..not sure if they pay for both. .

Sillycave

Had serious issues with TBC last year (2016) which i think is mainly due to tank i reckon.
Had a few issues since we got this tank 2 years ago but thought had it all rectified but had serious issues with TBC this year which hurt
Just wondering what do people do with regards the washing routine of there tank and if you have any solutions to high TBC so this problem doesn't occur again, thanks

whelan2

Is there an automatic washer on it? What detergent do you use?

Sillycave

whelan2 wrote: »

Is there an automatic washer on it? What detergent do you use?

Sorry yes automatic washer on it (first one, old tank was not and no issues).
Can't think of the name of the detergent but i was using a steriliser detergent one wash and then acid on the next, starting using acid more as though the tank looked cleaner after washing and this helped a little to recitify the problem but still way to high.
Some collections results would be fine then a spike which would stay for a little and then back low and then high again
What was also annoying that we don't get results for each collection so it could be a week or more before we get the result

whelan2

You can request results more often. Maybe get tank maintenance man to have a look at the washer? Do you have an in plate cooler? It's the first place I look when I get high tbc's

Sillycave

whelan2 wrote: »

You can request results more often. Maybe get tank maintenance man to have a look at the washer? Do you have an in plate cooler? It's the first place I look when I get high tbc's

Might request results more often, thank didn't know you could
Tank maintenance man has lived in the place over the last two years as has looked at washer a couple of times and says it okay
Have Gas DX Cooler, got a new one last year, was running perfectly after it was installed i.e. reading were very good, then readings would return high and then back low and then high again.
Trying to gauge what are other peoples washing routines?

freedominacup

Sillycave wrote: »

Might request results more often, thank didn't know you could
Tank maintenance man has lived in the place over the last two years as has looked at washer a couple of times and says it okay
Have Gas DX Cooler, got a new one last year, was running perfectly after it was installed i.e. reading were very good, then readings would return high and then back low and then high again.
Trying to gauge what are other peoples washing routines?

Are you hot washing?

whelan2

Every third wash is a descale wash here.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Automatic washer on the tank here as well. Two caustic followed by an acid wash in rotation. Water pressure wouldn't be great here so I tend to double up the washes if the TBC goes over 20. I'd put two washes on for a few collections after checking that there is no obvious things like a lump of stuff not being washed off the tank or agitator.