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Arlene Foster and the RHI scandal

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  • #62
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,328 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Were not the DUP the party of fiscal rectitude and moral integrity?

    If Bell was guided by God in his answers what is Arlene saying about God's guidance?


  • #63
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,328 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Despite the fact that the loudest calls for her resignation are coming from the UUP she pulls the 'I'm a victim' of SF card/deflection?
    http://www.thejournal.ie/arlene-foster-explainer-3169345-Jan2017/?utm_source=shortlink


  • #64
    GreenFolder2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭GreenFolder2


    Apparently it's all just a simple case of republican mysigeniy by the left wing.... [rolleyes]

    At least that's what I picked up from the sound bytes the morning.


  • #65
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 44,253 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Mysoginy article here...
    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/arlene-foster-says-calls-to-stand-down-motivated-by-misogyny-1.2925274

    I can see what she means though. Some people are saying that she is incompetent whilst others are saying that she is corrupt. To use the word "she" is a terrible attack on her character!

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  • #66
    FrancieBrady
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    The attempt to rabble raise again is shocking.
    It’s not secret that in my childhood the IRA tried to murder my father. It’s no secret that in the past the IRA put a bomb on my school bus. So do I really think that I’m going to step aside at the behest of Sinn Féin? No I’m not.

    Prove there is nothing to answer for here Arlene, then point fingers elsewhere.


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  • #67
    blackwhite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    It's a new low for Northern politics (which is shocking considering how low it has stooped in the past) for a politician to use 1) such a blatant cry to sectarianism, and 2) play the "sexism" card to try and distract from corruption.


  • #68
    Jayop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,377 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    That sky allowed her to soapbox like that without asking one tough question on the actual scandal is a disgrace. Shows they'd rather have a nice soundbite they can play on repeat all day rather than do any real journalism.


  • #69
    GreenFolder2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭GreenFolder2


    They likely had no idea whether any of the claims were true or false as most British media outlets don't know where northern Ireland is and know very little about its internal politics.


  • #70
    Jayop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,377 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    GreenFolder2 wrote: »
    They likely had no idea whether any of the claims were true or false as most British media outlets don't know where northern Ireland is and know very little about its internal politics.

    So they should investigate before allowing her that platform. Aka journalism.


  • #71
    feargale
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,638 ✭✭✭feargale


    I haven't followed this controversy in great detail, but when I hear a female politician playing the oppressed female card I know that that politician is in trouble and that she knows it.

    It happened years ago here when Dick Spring wiped the floor with PD leader Mary Harney in an election tv debate. The followiing day Liz O'Donnell was on tv to tell us that Dick Spring had been sexist in the debate.

    Any female politician who peddles that nonsense should never get another vote.


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  • #72
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    People dislike her because she's incompetent not because she's a woman.

    It's actually quite demeaning towards women in general the way she has pulled this 'damsel in distress' victim card instead of taking responsibility for her own failings.


  • #73
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,328 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    People dislike her because she's incompetent not because she's a woman.

    It's actually quite demeaning towards women in general the way she has pulled this 'damsel in distress' victim card instead of taking responsibility for her own failings.

    The more dangerous thing is the playing to the DUP/unionist rabble, with the suggestion that SF see her as some sort of target.
    Almost criminal that it is allowed.


  • #74
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 44,253 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Have the UUP made any public statement on the Cash for Ash scandal?
    Did they say anything in the last day or so about Foster's mysoginy claim?

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  • #75
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,328 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    kbannon wrote: »
    Have the UUP made any public statement on the Cash for Ash scandal?
    Did they say anything in the last day or so about Foster's mysoginy claim?

    Nesbitt has called for her resignation ( not stepping aside) but Arlene is playing to the rabble trying to suggest it is SF trying to get her.


  • #76
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,328 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Arlene gets a platform in one of NI's leading newspapers. Curious one.

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/arlene-foster-i-want-an-investigation-into-rhi-and-will-work-to-right-what-went-wrong-35350833.html


  • #77
    Floppybits
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    Martin McGuinness is stepping down as deputy first minister.


  • #78
    Jayop
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    Floppybits wrote: »
    Martin McGuinness is stepping down as deputy first minister.

    Wow. Really surprised at that but I guess it had to be done. No way could they just carry on as if nothing happened.

    What now? Elections? Is the whole GFA and executive in trouble?


  • #79
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,328 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Jayop wrote: »
    Wow. Really surprised at that but I guess it had to be done. No way could they just carry on as if nothing happened.

    What now? Elections? Is the whole GFA and executive in trouble?

    Elections I would say.

    DUP going to the people after RHI and Arlene's mess re Brexit with Arlene still leading. Political Hari Kari imo.


  • #80
    Jayop
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Elections I would say.

    DUP going to the people after RHI and Arlene's mess re Brexit with Arlene still leading. Political Hari Kari imo.

    They'll still be the biggest party. They were only ever a one issue party and for the majority of their voters that one issue is the biggest thing.


  • #81
    Anatom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭Anatom


    Big political opportunity for SF now. Hard to see Foster surviving this with Brexit and the RHI debacle.


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  • #82
    R P McMurphy
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    Jayop wrote: »
    They'll still be the biggest party. They were only ever a one issue party and for the majority of their voters that one issue is the biggest thing.

    Maybe not as the UUP might start to make up ground amongst unionist voters. As the reality of brexit sets in and people realise that they are going to be a lot worse off the DUP will be a hard sell. SF could end up the largest party as the DUP and UUP scrap it out


  • #83
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 44,253 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I think that SF will push out the spin doctors with a view to helping DUP fans to move elsewhere (UUP?) so that SF become the larger party.
    In the 2016 Assembly elections the DUP had 29.4% of votes whereas SF had 24%.

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  • #84
    Anatom
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    R P McMurphy wrote: »
    Maybe not as the UUP might start to make up ground amongst unionist voters. As the reality of brexit sets in and people realise that they are going to be a lot worse off the DUP will be a hard sell. SF could end up the largest party as the DUP and UUP scrap it out

    SF / UUP coalition probably, with SF most likely in the driving seat. Of course, that all depends on how badly the UUP or any others, want to get into government...


  • #85
    FrancieBrady
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    Yeh, dogfight in Unionism coming up. Dog will eat dog.

    Awaiting the next Gerry Ate My Hamster story or arrest. :D


  • #86
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    He only resigned because he is ill, nothing to do with scandal, just a perfect chance to get out. Thankfully that is the last we will see of this idiot.


  • #87
    whatstherush
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    Imagine the **** that will hit the fan if elections are called and in the meantime before they happen, the UK supreme court rules NI executive has an veto on article 50 notification #FunTimes


  • #88
    Jayop
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    The unionists will not accept SF as the biggest party if it were to happen. No way and they'd collapse the institution rather than see McGuinness as first minister.


  • #89
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Jayop wrote: »
    The unionists will not accept SF as the biggest party if it were to happen. No way and they'd collapse the institution rather than see McGuinness as first minister.
    Who cares, the system is broken anyway, nothing gets done. It is probably the worst form of government in the Western world. I am not voting this time, they are all incompetent idiots.


  • #90
    Jayop
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    A Little Pony wrote: »
    He only resigned because he is ill, nothing to do with scandal, just a perfect chance to get out. Thankfully that is the last we will see of this idiot.

    Haha, you must be worried when you're posting this level of nonsense.


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  • #91
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,328 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    DUP man not voting?
    I'm sure SF will be delighted to hear that. That is as good as a vote for them.


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