The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V2

brinty · 29-12-2016 04:03PM

eagle eye wrote:

Well the fact that Elway worked out so well in Denver will lead the way to more former franchise QBs getting an opportunity like that. Manning seems like a good football man so it seems like it'd be a good move all around for them. He would have a lot of respect from players in the league, he'll have the fans behind him and it seems like a really good decision by Irsay.

Maybe Romo retires and gets made GM in the big D. Saves a hell if a lot of cap space,he's great friends with Jethro and Stephen,always having dinner with the Joneses etc.. stranger things have happened than oul Jethro taking a step back

Unlikely I know,but hey....

helimachoptor · 29-12-2016 04:21PM

It would be very interesting to see what would happen if manning comes in

AbusesToilets · 29-12-2016 10:00PM

Wouldn't Manning be more interested in something with Tennessee?

the baby bull elephant · 29-12-2016 10:48PM

helimachoptor wrote: »

It would be very interesting to see what would happen if manning comes in

Papa Johns pizza only in the canteen.

helimachoptor · 30-12-2016 01:42PM

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Wouldn't Manning be more interested in something with Tennessee?

Potentially but at least while jrob is there that ship has sailed I think

Itssoeasy · 30-12-2016 02:09PM

the baby bull elephant wrote: »

Papa Johns pizza only in the canteen.

The stadium renamed papa Johns stadium.

Billy86 · 30-12-2016 02:16PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

The stadium renamed papa Johns stadium.

Chip Kelly is known to use high intensity music in his practices. In Indianapolis, it's going to be Peyton mumble-singing that f***ing irritating insurance jingle.

Alfred Borden · 30-12-2016 06:12PM

Another great retiring. The king of the strip sack Robert Mathis will play his last game Sunday.

letowski · 30-12-2016 06:32PM

Alfred Borden wrote:

Another great retiring. The king of the strip sack Robert Mathis will play his last game Sunday.

Yeah its sad but it was time for him to hang up his cleats. We would kill to have him in his prime, as our pass rush is awful.

Billy86 · 30-12-2016 06:33PM

Alfred Borden wrote: »

Another great retiring. The king of the strip sack Robert Mathis will play his last game Sunday.

The Colts drafted him & Freeney one year after the other, both very undersized DEs - 244.5 combined sacks, 97 combined fumbles and 20 recoveries later, I think the gamble paid off.

I'm guessing Freeney is also going to retire after the playoffs, he'll turn 37 in February.

TOss Sweep · 30-12-2016 07:46PM

Billy86 wrote: »

The Colts drafted him & Freeney one year after the other, both very undersized DEs - 244.5 combined sacks, 97 combined fumbles and 20 recoveries later, I think the gamble paid off.

I'm guessing Freeney is also going to retire after the playoffs, he'll turn 37 in February.

Always surprised me how with the solid defense the Colts had and Peyton Manning they didn't win more bowls. That Colts front 7 were insane.

AbusesToilets · 30-12-2016 09:48PM

TOss Sweep wrote: »

Always surprised me how with the solid defense the Colts had and Peyton Manning they didn't win more bowls. That Colts front 7 were insane.

I think Manning was responsible for a lot of that tbh. He had a deserved reputation for poor play in the post season. He played awfully in all of his SB appearances, to the point that the wins were in spite of his efforts rather than because of him.

NufcNavan · 31-12-2016 08:13PM

AbusesToilets wrote: »

I think Manning was responsible for a lot of that tbh. He had a deserved reputation for poor play in the post season. He played awfully in all of his SB appearances, to the point that the wins were in spite of his efforts rather than because of him.

Disagree. I mean sure Colts fans weren't happy after he threw a pick 6 against the Saints, but those were just natural reactions. They might never play in the Super Bowl again. The whole notion that large swaths of Colts fans viewed him as a pitiful underachiever just isn't reality.

The "underachiever" thing only went as far as correctly pointing out that there were missed opportunities for the team where he had the opportunity to lay down a commanding case as the GOAT, but virtually everyone appreciated the rare greatness they witnessed.

eagle eye · 31-12-2016 08:21PM

NufcNavan wrote: »

Disagree. I mean sure Colts fans weren't happy after he threw a pick 6 against the Saints, but those were just natural reactions. They might never play in the Super Bowl again. The whole notion that large swaths of Colts fans viewed him as a pitiful underachiever just isn't reality.

The "underachiever" thing only went as far as correctly pointing out that there were missed opportunities for the team where he had the opportunity to lay down a commanding case as the GOAT, but virtually everyone appreciated the rare greatness they witnessed.

He is a hero and legend to the majority of Colts fans. His legacy is tainted by his poor playoff performances and in particular his poor performances in the Superbowls that his teams actually won. He, unbelievably, got the MVP for the Colts win over the Bears even though he was poor on the day.

AbusesToilets · 01-01-2017 12:52AM

NufcNavan wrote: »

Disagree. I mean sure Colts fans weren't happy after he threw a pick 6 against the Saints, but those were just natural reactions. They might never play in the Super Bowl again. The whole notion that large swaths of Colts fans viewed him as a pitiful underachiever just isn't reality.

The "underachiever" thing only went as far as correctly pointing out that there were missed opportunities for the team where he had the opportunity to lay down a commanding case as the GOAT, but virtually everyone appreciated the rare greatness they witnessed.

I'm not trying to dog in him, but his stats are pretty shocking.

NufcNavan · 01-01-2017 03:43AM

If you really don't think Manning cares that much about the Colts franchise, then you clearly haven't been paying attention to what he's said about the franchise since retiring.

Of course he's fond of Denver, no one ever said he wasn't. He had a great resurgence there and won a Super Bowl. But 13 years > 4 years. Joe Schmo NFL fan remembers Manning as a Colt more than a Bronco.

The Broncos were already a historically successful franchise with a major fan base when Peyton arrived. Sure he played a major role in making them elite, but he didn't build the franchise from the ground up like he did in Indy. He took a largely nothing franchise with minimal support and turned it into a powerhouse team that built a state of the art stadium and churned out thousands of thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands (maybe even over a million?) of new fans.

Manning knows all of that full well and there's no doubt he's proud. Sure he's proud of the Denver success, but look at how much he gushed about the 06 team. That was Manning at his peak. It was his franchise.

I mean random people get nostalgic when they change jobs at their widget company. You don't think Manning gets emotional when he had such a profound impact on a community in a dramatically public way?

JaMarcusHustle · 01-01-2017 03:55AM

NufcNavan wrote: »

If you really don't think Manning cares that much about the Colts franchise, then you clearly haven't been paying attention to what he's said about the franchise since retiring.

You don't think Manning gets emotional when he had such a profound impact on a community in a dramatically public way?

Maybe I'm missing something, but who are you arguing with? I don't see anyone claiming otherwise

NufcNavan · 01-01-2017 04:03AM

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

Maybe I'm missing something, but who are you arguing with? I don't see anyone claiming otherwise

Nobody in particular, but I don't think the argument of Manning being a 'choker' and looking back at his time as a Colt goes hand in hand.

paulie21 · 01-01-2017 12:45PM

Kelly and Baalke done in SF. Kubiak considering retiring

Billy86 · 01-01-2017 12:48PM

If the bookies are anything to go by, Matt Ryan looks the clear favourite for MVP - good for him, he's earned it. Rodgers and Brady are both the second and third favourites and I wouldn't begrudge it to either of them, though the former had a much publicised poor start to the year while the latter missed a quarter of the season and has had a very soft schedule. Elliott is also there at 10/3 but odds are moving against him and my guess is he doesn't play much tonight, so will be given the OROTY and probably OPOTY awards instead.

Current odds:
Matt Ryan - 15/8 (was 5/1 this time last week, if I recall)
Tom Brady - 11/4
Aaron Rodgers - 10/3
Ezekiel Elliott - 10/3

Itssoeasy · 01-01-2017 01:24PM

paulie21 wrote: »

Kelly and Baalke done in SF. Kubiak considering retiring

Chip kelly I think should have been given another year. Trent Baalke should have been fired for the Jim harbaugh situation and his handling of it.

OldMrBrennan83 · 01-01-2017 02:10PM

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Billy86 · 01-01-2017 02:17PM

Patww79 wrote: »

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Not sure how, in order to get Baalke?

The love in with Ted Thompson does seem to have died down a good bit but I doubt his position is in much jeopardy, esp. if GB win and/or Washington lose/tie tonight. My guess is he sticks around a few more years (he's currently 63), then GB make a move for Seattle's John Schneider - not certain at all they'd get him, but he is from Wisconsin, got his start as a GB scout during the Holmgren era and spent almost all of the 2000s there so they'd have a chance, plus he's only 45 so has a good 20 odd years left. Probably wishful thinking on my end though.

Itssoeasy · 01-01-2017 02:17PM

Patww79 wrote: »

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Is ted Thompson on the hot seat ? Sorry I've not heard anything about ted Thompson.

OldMrBrennan83 · 01-01-2017 02:19PM

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Billy86 · 01-01-2017 02:23PM

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Ah, got ya. To be honest though, I really don't see Thompson wanting to leave a well run and stable team like GB to go work for Jed York. If it were to happen though, Wolf would certainly be a front runner especially as Schneider only signed a new contract in Seattle over the summer.

OldMrBrennan83 · 01-01-2017 02:26PM

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Billy86 · 01-01-2017 02:32PM

Patww79 wrote: »

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Ah yeah, now that's an interesting one. The old brain isn't switched on at all today!

In that situation it's hard to tell with the Wolf family's stature in GB, but my personal reckoning is they'd still keep as is, sometimes frustratingly so (you know who I'm talking about here!) but as a club the Packers tend to be very gradual and measured in their actions rather than being overly speculative or playing the political game. Still, could be an interesting one in the offseason.

OldMrBrennan83 · 01-01-2017 02:39PM

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brinty · 02-01-2017 02:45AM

Black Monday started early
49ers GM and Kelly fired
Broncos Kubiack retiring
Chargers McCoy fired

Who else will be gone by this time tomorrow

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