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Female student beaten up in Maynooth(NO SPECULATION)

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    #422
    Goya
    Closed Accounts Posts: 464 ✭✭Goya


    dont bother wrote: »
    whatever. couldnt give a sh!t how triggered ye'll get from what i said.
    women are crap. they're sh!t like.
    You're the one triggered if a mere counter argument is enough for you to lose the plot as per above.


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    #423
    Mr. CooL ICE
    Registered Users Posts: 17,517 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    dont bother wrote: »
    whatever. couldnt give a sh!t how triggered ye'll get from what i said.
    women are crap. they're sh!t like.
    Flimpson wrote: »
    You're the one triggered if a mere counter argument is enough for you to lose the plot as per above.

    Mod:

    Cut it out, the pair of you.

    ...

    Also, not sure why the whole feminism thing came into it, but this thread has nothing to do with feminism. It ends now.


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    #424
    GLaDOS
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,212 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Gardaí want to speak to them. They're suspects, they haven't been charged, they haven't been found guilty of anything. People are getting way ahead of themselves to make some sort of bizarre point.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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    #425
    _Jamie_
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    MRnotlob606 wrote: »
    Ah so you are interpreting the situation to suit your own feminist hating right wing agenda? You even put your name as Rightwing.... A bit much?

    An attack of this severity... unlikely to be female on female. Not impossible, but unlikely. Unless she was attacked by a gang of girls.


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    #426
    midnight city
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    It takes quite a bit of force to break bones like that. Whoever it was really meant to do harm.


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    #427
    Goya
    Closed Accounts Posts: 464 ✭✭Goya


    _Jamie_ wrote: »
    An attack of this severity... unlikely to be female on female. Not impossible, but unlikely. Unless she was attacked by a gang of girls.
    Three girls are being questioned.


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    #428
    professore
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭professore


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    This is a fallacy.

    I don't know what age you are but I grew up in the 1960s and I assure you that violent attacks were an awful lot less common then. I remember when a Scottish visitor was stabbed in Bray and the country talked of little else for the year. I get my news from the radio and occasionally newspapers so it's not that I'm influenced by social media.

    No one talked about the children having the sh1t beaten out of them, raped and worse in industrial schools and laundries (and many "normal" schools) up and down the country.


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    #429
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    midnight city wrote: »
    It takes quite a bit of force to break bones like that. Whoever it was really meant to do harm.

    A fall on a footpath might do some of the damage.

    It's only a matter of time before people are charged in relation to this attack.


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    #430
    _Jamie_
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    Flimpson wrote: »
    Three girls are being questioned.

    I know that, but as of now, that's all. I always keep an open mind when people are merely at the questioning stage and I can think of a few cases with male suspects where I also took that view.

    Can't believe people are gloating here. Take a look at yourselves.


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    #431
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,652 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    I don't care who was responsible as long as they're caught, brought to court, convicted and sentenced if found guilty.


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    #432
    Hococop
    Registered Users Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭Hococop


    If it is them, what happens if they are under age what type of legal punishment could be dealt to them? Could they receive a lighter sentence?


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    #433
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,007 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Flimpson wrote: »
    Did anyone really say it was definitely a man and could not have been a woman? And was it really framed as feminist rhetoric?

    No. If anything, people agreed with him that it could have been women and, as far as I can tell, they were women.

    We know full well what vicious bítches "girl gangs" can be.


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    #434
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    sonic85 wrote: »
    If this is true and they've identified the culprits - life in jail for the lot of them. Anybody who commits an attack of this magnitude should never see the light of day again. There's no place in society for such animals.

    Love the fact it was possibly 3 on 1 too - cowardly cnuts

    This is Ireland. Two years suspended and a good stern talking to. :mad:


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    #435
    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    I have a suspicion that the suspects are all under 16.

    That 'girl gang' culture over in Britain seems to exclusively populated by 12-16 year olds from rough areas. Probably the same here.

    This is a game they will play, they will target a random innocent individual and attack them in a group.


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    #436
    Cianmcliam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 715 ✭✭✭Cianmcliam


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    I have a suspicion that the suspects are all under 16.

    That 'girl gang' culture over in Britain seems to exclusively populated by 12-16 year olds from rough areas. Probably the same here.

    This is a game they will play, they will target a random innocent individual and attack them in a group.

    I doubt it was a random attack, with the emphasis on attacking her face so brutally it sounds like a vendetta or jealous rage thing.


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    #437
    pilly
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Fair play to the Gardaí for spending so much time on this case. Hopefully it all leads to a successful conviction.


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    #438
    Mary63
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    I don't think it was random either and I was guilty of thinking it was a jealous boyfriend.

    She was attacked by someone who was lying in wait and knew what time the bus was due and the route the poor young one would walk.She probably had a bag on her back so couldn't have run when jumped on.

    Maynooth isn't inner city Dublin and this wasn't late at night, I really doubt you would have gangs of girls in Maynooth ready to beat someone half to death for no reason.They are only suspects at the moment, part of me thinks young girls wouldn't have the strength to injure someone their own age so badly, maybe I am naive.


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    #439
    BattleCorp
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    Mary63 wrote: »
    I don't think it was random either and I was guilty of thinking it was a jealous boyfriend.

    She was attacked by someone who was lying in wait and knew what time the bus was due and the route the poor young one would walk.She probably had a bag on her back so couldn't have run when jumped on.

    Maynooth isn't inner city Dublin and this wasn't late at night, I really doubt you would have gangs of girls in Maynooth ready to beat someone half to death for no reason.They are only suspects at the moment, part of me thinks young girls wouldn't have the strength to injure someone their own age so badly, maybe I am naive.

    You don't need to be strong to beat the head off someone with an iron bar or a hockey stick.


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    #440
    Ferrari3600
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    Must admit I did have an odd feeling it might have been female(s) involved in this, don't know why.


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    #441
    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    Ferrari3600 wrote: »
    Must admit I did have an odd feeling it might have been female(s) involved in this, don't know why.

    An absence of sexual assault made me feel this way quite early on also.


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    #442
    Joe prim
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    BattleCorp wrote: »
    You don't need to be strong to beat the head off someone with an iron bar or a hockey stick.




    Oh no, not the Mount Anville Mafia:eek:


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    #443
    Ferrari3600
    Closed Accounts Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Ferrari3600


    Wibbs wrote: »
    NOt too much of a shock. Indeed I can now tell a mate of mine I was discussing this terrible case with "I informed you thusly". I can think of two other unsolved cases where I'd bet the farm it was a woman or women attackers.

    Do you mind me asking, is one of those an unsolved murder in Glengeary?


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    #444
    [Deleted User]
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    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    I have a suspicion that the suspects are all under 16.

    That 'girl gang' culture over in Britain seems to exclusively populated by 12-16 year olds from rough areas. Probably the same here.

    This is a game they will play, they will target a random innocent individual and attack them in a group.

    I really hope this isn't the case. If they're 18 or older the punishment they receive would be much more severe and to be honest I hope the punishment is extremely fucking severe.

    It happens too often in this country that a group of 16 or 17 year olds kick the head off some random person and walk away from it with nothing more than a weekly check-in with a JLo officer.


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    #445
    bit of a bogey
    Registered Users Posts: 528 ✭✭✭bit of a bogey


    pilly wrote: »
    Fair play to the Gardaí for spending so much time on this case. Hopefully it all leads to a successful conviction.

    What do you mean fair play to the gardai?? It's a horrendous case so they should be doing absolutely everything within their power possible. It's their job. I don't care how long it takes to bring the offender to justice. I trust that they are doing the right thing in being patient to build an accurate case but I thought that given the circumstances, they be further along now with charges by now.


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    #446
    Grayson
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    GLaDOS wrote: »
    Gardaí want to speak to them. They're suspects, they haven't been charged, they haven't been found guilty of anything. People are getting way ahead of themselves to make some sort of bizarre point.

    Those particular girls might not be guilty but I think we can assume that there's a high chance. The reason is that although it's not mentioned in the article it's probably based on the victims word.

    Hopefully if it is them, they just hand themselves in and make a confession so the victim doesn't have to go through a trial.


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    #447
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Hearing more in maynooth tonight.

    Hurley sticks probably used.

    Looks like the poor youngster had been bullied for months.

    Common knowledge throughout the college who the three are and garda I were aware of this within days.


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    #448
    pablo128
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    The plot thickens. Now it's being reported that the guards don't have any suspects after all. http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/garda-say-they-have-not-one-suspect-in-horror-attack-on-kym-owens-35292214.html


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    #449
    Grayson
    Registered Users Posts: 16,155 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    pablo128 wrote: »
    The plot thickens. Now it's being reported that the guards don't have any suspects after all. http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/garda-say-they-have-not-one-suspect-in-horror-attack-on-kym-owens-35292214.html

    Jaysus. I think the moral is that we're all idiots for believing a single thing from the Indo.


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    #450
    [Deleted User]
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    Sounds like a case of Chinese whispers gaining truth status.

    I hope the culprits are brought to justice as soon as possible, whoever they are. Sadly, the judiciary have a bit of a rep for leniency, even in the face of tens or even hundreds of previous convictions. Lets hope they throw the book at them and they get what they deserve.

    I really hope this poor girl recovers fully physically and is able to get her life back, this is the kind of experience that'll make it an ongoing struggle for a long time to come. I hope she gets there.


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    #451
    Fleawuss
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,681 ✭✭✭Fleawuss


    Getting very fed up with lack of progress. The longer this goes the less chance of success. I hope in 10 years time there isn't a thread here "Maynooth attack still unsolved".


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