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Female student beaten up in Maynooth(NO SPECULATION)

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    #392
    Rightwing
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    A bad day for the wannabe feminists, eh ?


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    #393
    Lollipops23
    Registered Users Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    Rightwing wrote: »
    A bad day for the wannabe feminists, eh ?
    Yeah those of us who believe men and women are equal really have egg on our faces....???
    Women can be just as vicious and violent as men. It just happens less, so is more "shocking".


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    #394
    GingerLily
    Registered Users Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    Lollipops23 wrote: »
    Yeah those of us who believe men and women are equal really have egg on our faces....???
    Women can be just as vicious and violent as men. It just happens less, so is more "shocking".

    It's a great day that the Garda didn't exclude suspects based on gender and there might be justice for the poor victim.


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    #395
    sonic85
    Registered Users Posts: 4,218 ✭✭✭sonic85


    If this is true and they've identified the culprits - life in jail for the lot of them. Anybody who commits an attack of this magnitude should never see the light of day again. There's no place in society for such animals.

    Love the fact it was possibly 3 on 1 too - cowardly cnuts


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    #396
    osarusan
    Registered Users Posts: 16,587 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Rightwing wrote: »
    A bad day for the wannabe feminists, eh ?

    A sad day for anybody who uses the news to get a pathetic dig in, if you ask me.


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    #397
    [Deleted User]
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    sonic85 wrote: »
    If this is true and they've identified the culprits - life in jail for the lot of them.

    ^ I have no idea myself what the laws of prosecution are. What _are_ the maximum sentences possible for this crime? I guess it depends entirely on whether they parse it as violent assault or attempted murder for example? Which one contains the maximum sentence and what _are_ those maximum sentences?


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    #398
    Rightwing
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    osarusan wrote: »
    A sad day for anybody who uses the news to get a pathetic dig in, if you ask me.

    On the contrary it's a great day.

    Hopefully thugs are caught. Now just because they are women, they shouldn't be treated less lightly. This should be understood by all, but alas, it will beyond the scope of many, yourself included I dare say.


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    #399
    GingerLily
    Registered Users Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    Rightwing wrote: »
    On the contrary it's a great day.

    Hopefully thugs are caught. Now just because they are women, they shouldn't be treated less lightly. This should be understood by all, but alas, it will beyond the scope of many, yourself included I dare say.

    It's disgusting that your using this poor girls assault to further your feminist hating agenda.

    Really disgusting.....


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    #400
    califano
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    Jigai


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    #401
    Ted111
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    ^ I have no idea myself what the laws of prosecution are. What _are_ the maximum sentences possible for this crime? I guess it depends entirely on whether they parse it as violent assault or attempted murder for example? Which one contains the maximum sentence and what _are_ those maximum sentences?

    It's section 4 of the Non Fatal Offences Against the Person Act, 1997.
    What was once 'assault causing grievous bodily harm.'
    There is no maximum sentence. Could be three or four years but too many unknown factors.


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    #402
    MRnotlob606
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    Rightwing wrote: »
    A bad day for the wannabe feminists, eh ?

    Ah so you are interpreting the situation to suit your own feminist hating right wing agenda? You even put your name as Rightwing.... A bit much?


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    #403
    MRnotlob606
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    Don't see why people see woman on woman crime as an anomaly? its pretty common.


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    #404
    Rightwing
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    GingerLily wrote: »
    It's disgusting that your using this poor girls assault to further your feminist hating agenda.

    Really disgusting.....

    Drivel. Very pleased if culprits are caught, and hope that young girl makes a complete recovery.


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    #405
    GingerLily
    Registered Users Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    Rightwing wrote: »
    Drivel. Very pleased if culprits are caught, and hope that young girl makes a complete recovery.

    Then why mention feminism at all if you sincerely are just looking for justice for this poor girl?


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    #406
    whoopsadoodles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭whoopsadoodles


    Bloody hell lads.

    Can ye not fcuk off somewhere else to pat yourselves on the back about what a victory this news is for you?

    Honest to jesus.


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    #407
    TerrorFirmer
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    MRnotlob606 wrote: »
    Don't see why people see woman on woman crime as an anomaly? its pretty common.

    A violent assault of this calibre carried out by a woman/women is relatively uncommon, yes.

    The fact that it happens doesn't mean it's common.


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    #408
    FrancieBrady
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    May have been mentioned but this sounds like they are indirectly talking/appealing to or giving a second chance to someone who knows what happened or was involved.
    Last week a senior officer said gardai would like to speak to some of more than 200 people who have already made statements in case anyone had "forgotten" to tell officers anything.
    "They can come back to gardai in full confidence, they will not be in trouble or anything like that. Their information could be crucial," the source said.


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    #409
    Rightwing
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    GingerLily wrote: »
    Then why mention feminism at all if you sincerely are just looking for justice for this poor girl?

    Perhaps I worded it slightly awkardly. However, the overall point remains, whoever did this needs to be treated very severely by the courts regardless of gender.


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    #410
    Grayson
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    tupenny wrote: »
    Live close by and heard same.
    Always thought it was someone who knew her, revenge attack or something because she had laptop and stuff with her which weren't touched and it wasn't sexually motivated. Also seems like aim was to destroy her face. Makes sense it was girls.
    Vicious bitches

    It could still be pretty random.

    "Giz a smoke"

    "Feck off"

    And attack happens.

    The only thing that I thought was a possibility was that the attackers either lived in the estate or were visiting friends there. It's an out of the way place. There's no pedestrian "through traffic".

    Edit: I wouldn't put any stock in rumours amongst students. It's very unlikely that anyone knew and events like this generate rumours, especially in a place like the college.


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    #411
    AnneFrank
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    This is a bizare thread, all that matters is that the poor victim gets the care she needs and deserves,
    and hopefully a huge sum of compensation off the scumbags that committed the crime.
    Both genders are capable of committing such horrible crimes so all that matters is that the perpetrators are dealt with in the the most severe of terms to send out a clear message.
    Not the place for an equality debate, leave that to the know it all students on their councils


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    #412
    Goya
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    Rightwing wrote: »
    Perhaps I worded it slightly awkardly. However, the overall point remains, whoever did this needs to be treated very severely by the courts regardless of gender.
    "slightly awkwardly" - lol, most inaccurate description ever. :D (and there's no "perhaps" about it).

    Anyhoo, the point(s-scoring) you make should be directed at people who have actually said that women should be treated more leniently. And plenty of men think that because of traditional notions (the same guys who say it's worse to hit a woman than a man or that you should not even hit a woman in self defence) - I'm afraid this is a notion you can't just blame women/feminists for.


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    #413
    Rightwing
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    [QUOTE

    =Flimpson;101964200]"slightly awkwardly" - lol, most inaccurate description ever. :D

    Anyhoo, the point(s-scoring) you make should be directed at people who have actually said that women should be treated more leniently. And plenty of men think that because of traditional notions (the same guys who say it's worse to hit a woman than a man or that you should not even hit a woman in self defence) - I'm afraid this is a notion you can't just blame women/feminists for.[/QUOTE]

    Many people here are disgusted that it was women who did this. I am disgusted that anyone did it. That is the key difference for me.

    Case closed.


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    #414
    monty_python
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    califano wrote: »
    Jigai

    wtf??

    care to elaborate on that?


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    #415
    GingerLily
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    Rightwing wrote: »

    Many people here are disgusted that it was women who did this. I am disgusted that anyone did it. That is the key difference for me.

    Case closed.

    If you say inflammatory comments don't be surprised when people call you up on them.


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    #416
    Omackeral
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    ^ I have no idea myself what the laws of prosecution are. What _are_ the maximum sentences possible for this crime? I guess it depends entirely on whether they parse it as violent assault or attempted murder for example? Which one contains the maximum sentence and what _are_ those maximum sentences?

    You can get life for attempted murder. Rare, but it's an option. Highly doubt it would be handed down. I'd wager that would be reserved for someone who's already had serious serious crimes under their belt and/or only barely got away with a life sentence previously. You can also get life for rape, a lot of people don't know that.


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    #417
    smelly sock
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    Gardai are fully aware who committed the act obviously and as has been stated above are now hoping that releasing this latest info will push the suspects to come forward. It might also make them panic.


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    #418
    dont bother
    Closed Accounts Posts: 542 ✭✭✭dont bother


    So to all the feminist rhetoric that had been spouted on this thread about how it was definitely a MAN who did this,...

    i said it pages and pages ago on this thread that it was definintely 2-3 girls who did it.

    and.... it was. look:
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/exclusive-three-girls-to-be-interviewed-in-coming-days-in-relation-to-horror-attack-on-kym-owens-horror-attack-35292214.html


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    #419
    osarusan
    Registered Users Posts: 16,587 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    dont bother wrote: »
    So to all the feminist rhetoric that had been spouted on this thread about how it was definitely a MAN who did this,...

    i said it pages and pages ago on this thread that it was definintely 2-3 girls who did it.

    and.... it was. look:
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/exclusive-three-girls-to-be-interviewed-in-coming-days-in-relation-to-horror-attack-on-kym-owens-horror-attack-35292214.html

    I scrolled through the first 10 pages (150 posts) and saw 1 post that assumed the attacker was a man. I stopped then. There may have been more after that, but I'd guess that all the feminist rhetoric about how this was definitely a man was spouted mainly in your own head.

    Edit: another 3 in the following 150 posts. The same as the number of posters speculating that it was likely to be a woman/women.


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    #420
    Goya
    Closed Accounts Posts: 464 ✭✭Goya


    dont bother wrote: »
    So to all the feminist rhetoric that had been spouted on this thread about how it was definitely a MAN who did this,...

    i said it pages and pages ago on this thread that it was definintely 2-3 girls who did it.

    and.... it was. look:
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/exclusive-three-girls-to-be-interviewed-in-coming-days-in-relation-to-horror-attack-on-kym-owens-horror-attack-35292214.html
    You're late to the "I told you so!" party I'm afraid but I'm sure you're delighted it may have been (not definite yet) girls as it's a way to stick it to imaginary feminists on this thread which is much more important than the actual attack itself.

    Did anyone really say it was definitely a man and could not have been a woman? And was it really framed as feminist rhetoric?

    I assume you're aware also that it's actually more of a pre feminism notion - held by many men - that women aren't capable of carrying out assaults.


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    #421
    dont bother
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    Flimpson wrote: »
    You're late to the "I told you so!" party I'm afraid but I'm sure you're delighted it may have been (not definite yet) girls as it's a way to stick it to imaginary feminists on this thread which is much more important than the actual attack itself.

    Did anyone really say it was definitely a man and could not have been a woman? And was it really framed as feminist rhetoric?

    I assume you're aware also that it's actually more of a pre feminism notion - held by many men - that women aren't capable of carrying out assaults.

    whatever. couldnt give a sh!t how triggered ye'll get from what i said.
    women are crap. they're sh!t like.


    Mod: banned


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