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Philips Hue FAQ

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  • #252
    Orion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,807 ✭✭✭✭Orion


    That's not in the city centre.


  • #253
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Got 6 delivered from amazon today.


  • #254
    Orion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,807 ✭✭✭✭Orion


    When I looked yesterday stock was out until the 8th and have an E27 colour bulb arriving tomorrow.


  • #255
    mik_da_man
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭mik_da_man


    Quick one - Have the Starter kit arriving next week hopefully, does the Hub need to be wired to the router?


  • #256
    davo2001
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭davo2001


    mik_da_man wrote: »
    Quick one - Have the Starter kit arriving next week hopefully, does the Hub need to be wired to the router?

    Yes


  • #257
    Mahatma Geansai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,668 ✭✭✭Mahatma Geansai


    davo2001 wrote: »
    Yes

    Can they be wired into a wifi range extender?


  • #258
    davo2001
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭davo2001


    Mahatma Geansai wrote: »
    Can they be wired into a wifi range extender?

    I've seen on Hues Facebook page that they advise against this, haven't done it myself though, I can't see a reason why it wouldn't work.


  • #259
    Pete123456
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭Pete123456


    2 questions, sorry if they've been asked before...

    1. Can you use the app outside of your network if you have mobile broadband? ie. no fixed IP or port forwarding etc.

    2. Anybody know if there are plans for a floodlight or something bright for outside? i realise this defeats the purpose of the 'plug and play' and would probably require an electrician or a socket, but would be very handy to turn on yard lights without having to have other socket systems.


  • #260
    Shred
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,514 ✭✭✭Shred


    Pete123456 wrote: »
    2 questions, sorry if they've been asked before...

    1. Can you use the app outside of your network if you have mobile broadband? ie. no fixed IP or port forwarding etc.

    2. Anybody know if there are plans for a floodlight or something bright for outside? i realise this defeats the purpose of the 'plug and play' and would probably require an electrician or a socket, but would be very handy to turn on yard lights without having to have other socket systems.

    On question 1 - yes, I had to do nothing other than connect the hub to my router and install the app; once the app is logged into your Hue account it enables 'out of home' connections.

    I don't believe there is a Hue floodlight; personally I have a white bulb installed in my external (enclosed) light which obviously wouldn't give the same coverage as a floodlight but facilitates automation for security purposes.


  • #261
    OU812
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,083 ✭✭✭OU812


    Shred wrote: »
    On question 1 - yes, I had to do nothing other than connect the hub to my router and install the app; once the app is logged into your Hue account it enables 'out of home' connections.

    Really ? anytime I've tried it, it won't work outside of wifi


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  • #262
    Pete123456
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭Pete123456


    Shred wrote: »
    On question 1 - yes, I had to do nothing other than connect the hub to my router and install the app; once the app is logged into your Hue account it enables 'out of home' connections.

    I don't believe there is a Hue floodlight; personally I have a white bulb installed in my external (enclosed) light which obviously wouldn't give the same coverage as a floodlight but facilitates automation for security purposes.

    Cheers Shred,

    Pity they dont do one, LED floodlights are much cheaper run and the idea of being able to flick them on with an app would be fantastic... i guess ill have to stick to what i have for now. Theyd probably be an absolute fortune to buy anyways!


  • #263
    irelandrover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,822 ✭✭✭irelandrover


    OU812 wrote: »
    Really ? anytime I've tried it, it won't work outside of wifi

    If you sign into on the "more" tab then you can use out of home connection


  • #264
    BoardsMember
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    I got my first delivery yesterday. Happy with it. But one thing I thought a bit weird was the Scene selection on the Hue App. I have my kitchen set up with three white/colour bulbs, when I choose certain scenes the three bulbs go different colours, rather than all the same. Is that "normal behaviour"?


  • #265
    paulbok
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,005 ✭✭✭paulbok


    Pete123456 wrote: »
    2 questions, sorry if they've been asked before...

    1. Can you use the app outside of your network if you have mobile broadband? ie. no fixed IP or port forwarding etc.

    2. Anybody know if there are plans for a floodlight or something bright for outside? i realise this defeats the purpose of the 'plug and play' and would probably require an electrician or a socket, but would be very handy to turn on yard lights without having to have other socket systems.
    Pete123456 wrote: »
    Cheers Shred,

    Pity they dont do one, LED floodlights are much cheaper run and the idea of being able to flick them on with an app would be fantastic... i guess ill have to stick to what i have for now. Theyd probably be an absolute fortune to buy anyways!

    1. The app works anywhere as long a you have data connection.

    2. No known outdoor lights yet, but there are ways to control electrical lights outside of the hue environment. Lightwaverf, Aeon labs and Fibaro are some makers of inline relays that you connect somewhere (behind the lightswitch or in the attic on the cable to the lights. This allows you to remotely switch them on/off and those manufacturers do integrate with other systems. However you would have to invest in additional kit to get them to work, in particular a hub that can receive them


  • #266
    paulbok
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,005 ✭✭✭paulbok


    BoardsMember wrote: »
    I got my first delivery yesterday. Happy with it. But one thing I thought a bit weird was the Scene selection on the Hue App. I have my kitchen set up with three white/colour bulbs, when I choose certain scenes the three bulbs go different colours, rather than all the same. Is that "normal behaviour"?

    That is exactly what they are supposed to do with multiple bulbs and scenes. the mixture of the colours is what makes a scene, rather than say one (or 3 bulbs) just turning blue or red.


  • #267
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,784 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    BoardsMember wrote: »
    I got my first delivery yesterday. Happy with it. But one thing I thought a bit weird was the Scene selection on the Hue App. I have my kitchen set up with three white/colour bulbs, when I choose certain scenes the three bulbs go different colours, rather than all the same. Is that "normal behaviour"?

    you can also create better scenes (in my opinion) in the original Hue app, you can drag each light to any colour you want for it etc...


  • #268
    Dardania
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Dardania


    paulbok wrote: »
    Pete123456 wrote: »
    2 questions, sorry if they've been asked before...

    1. Can you use the app outside of your network if you have mobile broadband? ie. no fixed IP or port forwarding etc.

    2. Anybody know if there are plans for a floodlight or something bright for outside? i realise this defeats the purpose of the 'plug and play' and would probably require an electrician or a socket, but would be very handy to turn on yard lights without having to have other socket systems.
    Pete123456 wrote: »
    Cheers Shred,

    Pity they dont do one, LED floodlights are much cheaper run and the idea of being able to flick them on with an app would be fantastic... i guess ill have to stick to what i have for now. Theyd probably be an absolute fortune to buy anyways!

    1. The app works anywhere as long a you have data connection.

    2. No known outdoor lights yet, but there are ways to control electrical lights outside of the hue environment. Lightwaverf, Aeon labs and Fibaro are some makers of inline relays that you connect somewhere (behind the lightswitch or in the attic on the cable to the lights. This allows you to remotely switch them on/off and those manufacturers do integrate with other systems. However you would have to invest in additional kit to get them to work, in particular a hub that can receive them
    Do these relays work in the Hue environment?
    Or at a higher level perhaps, should one consider the Elgato and control all via HomeKit?: https://www.elgato.com/en/eve/eve-energy


  • #269
    Dardania
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Dardania


    paulbok wrote: »
    Pete123456 wrote: »
    2 questions, sorry if they've been asked before...

    1. Can you use the app outside of your network if you have mobile broadband? ie. no fixed IP or port forwarding etc.

    2. Anybody know if there are plans for a floodlight or something bright for outside? i realise this defeats the purpose of the 'plug and play' and would probably require an electrician or a socket, but would be very handy to turn on yard lights without having to have other socket systems.
    Pete123456 wrote: »
    Cheers Shred,

    Pity they dont do one, LED floodlights are much cheaper run and the idea of being able to flick them on with an app would be fantastic... i guess ill have to stick to what i have for now. Theyd probably be an absolute fortune to buy anyways!

    1. The app works anywhere as long a you have data connection.

    2. No known outdoor lights yet, but there are ways to control electrical lights outside of the hue environment. Lightwaverf, Aeon labs and Fibaro are some makers of inline relays that you connect somewhere (behind the lightswitch or in the attic on the cable to the lights. This allows you to remotely switch them on/off and those manufacturers do integrate with other systems. However you would have to invest in additional kit to get them to work, in particular a hub that can receive them
    Do these relays work in the Hue environment?
    Or at a higher level perhaps, should one consider the Elgato and control all via HomeKit?: https://www.elgato.com/en/eve/eve-energy


  • #270
    Shred
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,514 ✭✭✭Shred


    OU812 wrote: »
    Really ? anytime I've tried it, it won't work outside of wifi

    Yep, the key part is "once the app is logged into your Hue account" - goto settings/more and it should be the first option available there.


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  • #271
    paulbok
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,005 ✭✭✭paulbok


    I don't think they work within Hue, I have a few Aeon labs relays and Hue doesn't pick them up.
    I use Samsung smartthings as a master controller and it picks up both Hue and the Aeon devices, and will pick up Fibaro too (not lightwaverf though).

    I'm not familiar with Elgato, but after having a quick look at their site it does what you want via the outlet sockets or wall switches, however they do look to only work on US power supply of 120V so won't work here on 220V.


  • #272
    Roen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭Roen


    paulbok wrote: »
    I don't think they work within Hue, I have a few Aeon labs relays and Hue doesn't pick them up.
    I use Samsung smartthings as a master controller and it picks up both Hue and the Aeon devices, and will pick up Fibaro too (not lightwaverf though).

    I'm not familiar with Elgato, but after having a quick look at their site it does what you want via the outlet sockets or wall switches, however they do look to only work on US power supply of 120V so won't work here on 220V.

    Hi Paul,

    I have a Samsung smartthings hub that arrived last week (not installed yet). Can you mix and match platforms with the sensors? i.e. My table lamp comes on with my Hue motion sensor but will that Philips sensor then trigger the smartthings power socket to come on and thereby light up the floor lamp?

    I'm using Home Assistant for a centralised solution and not sure what smartthings support is like in that.


  • #273
    Orion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,807 ✭✭✭✭Orion


    OU812 wrote: »
    Really ? anytime I've tried it, it won't work outside of wifi

    Works fine for me.


  • #274
    paulbok
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,005 ✭✭✭paulbok


    Roen wrote: »
    Hi Paul,

    I have a Samsung smartthings hub that arrived last week (not installed yet). Can you mix and match platforms with the sensors? i.e. My table lamp comes on with my Hue motion sensor but will that Philips sensor then trigger the smartthings power socket to come on and thereby light up the floor lamp?

    I'm using Home Assistant for a centralised solution and not sure what smartthings support is like in that.

    I have a few just Hue & Aeon labs/Aeotec switched working with the smartthings environment (and Amazon Alexa).
    The hue lights pair and work very well but the smart apps that are used to control your light etc routines through Smartthings are rubbish. I had believed I hadn't them setup correctly but having looked into the Smartthings community forums, the default ones just don't work as intended.
    there is great support for working around this on the ST community but involves using the ST development IDE to create new device handlers ( which also allow support for devices that ST doesn't natively handle) and then your ST app will pick them up.
    Going back to you original question on the Hue sensor, Smartthings will pick it up but thats about it without delving into the IDE world (not as daunting as it looks - all the code is provides to copy by kind posters - you just need to tweak with you own passwords say for the Hue bridge).
    The ST motion sensor that comes with the starter kit has more options than the Hue one for setting up but is temperamental. I hope to sort all my ST issues over the Xmas and intend to post up a Smartthing FAQ in the next few days to get it going in this forum.


  • #275
    Roen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭Roen


    Thanks Paul.
    I shouldn't have a problem hacking about with the code.
    I appreciate the reply


  • #276
    Roen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭Roen


    Right,

    I can't see the motions sensors directly in the app itself. However I got the automation I wanted working.
    I set the power socket to come on based on whether the living room lamp is on or off. The lamp in turn is triggered by a Hue motion sensor.

    So when I walk in the Hue motion sensor triggers the table lamp depending on the light level. That in turn switches on the socket, which lights up the floor lamp.
    Bit of a roundabout way of doing it. Be far cleaner if you could just have a Hue sensor directly trigger the floor lamp.

    Have to say the app is not brilliantly designed. THat said it's my first proper poke at it and I got what I wanted from it. So can't be all that bad!


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  • #277
    paulbok
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,005 ✭✭✭paulbok


    Roen wrote: »
    Thanks Paul.
    I shouldn't have a problem hacking about with the code.
    I appreciate the reply


    You're welcome.
    let us know how you get on with SmartThings and Home Assistant.


  • #278
    Roen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭Roen


    paulbok wrote: »
    You're welcome.
    let us know how you get on with SmartThings and Home Assistant.

    Will do, I'll post in the ST thread you will be creating if there isn't one about already. Now, let's get the thread back on track with Hue stuff!


  • #279
    Stillnotworking
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 243 ✭✭Stillnotworking


    Hi there, If you get the E27 starter kit, can you add in the Bayonet bulbs later? Or are you stuck with the starter style?

    Thanks


  • #280
    OU812
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,083 ✭✭✭OU812


    Stillnotworking wrote: »
    Hi there, If you get the E27 starter kit, can you add in the Bayonet bulbs later? Or are you stuck with the starter style?

    Thanks

    You can add up to a total of 50 bulbs in any configuration.


  • #281
    Irish Gunner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,773 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    Ordered the below and have to collect them on Monday

     https://www.amazon.es/gp/product/B01LZ8QYPI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

     I have Bayonet lights and looking if the below would suffice

     http://www.ikea.com/ie/en/products/lighting/light-bulbs-accessories/koppla-b22-to-e27-bulb-converter-art-90295615/

     Or is it these ones?

     http://www.ikea.com/ie/en/products/lighting/light-bulbs-accessories/koppla-b15-to-e14-bulb-converter-art-70296574/

     Also got the 3 bulbs initially is Amazon best place to get additional ones as in mainland UK so not sure drop into John Lewis and pick up another as I get discounts there.

    https://www.dublinarsenal.com/



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  • #282
    The Black Oil
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,604 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Intrigued by this sort of thing and have read the thread. Only concern is the security of the product itself.

    Moderator: Television, Psychology and Dublin County North.

    CMod: Entertainment



  • #283
    adox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,023 ✭✭✭✭adox


    I tempted to get a sensor and a couple of the new white ambient lights to add to the collection. Would be used in my hallway.

    Anyone using the sensor? How are you finding it? Also are the newer white ambients worth the extra cost over the old "plain" white?


  • #284
    irelandrover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,822 ✭✭✭irelandrover


    I'm using the sensor. Find it great. I use it behind a door so it triggers when the door is opened. Hasn't failed yet.


  • #285
    Palofmine
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭Palofmine


    Hi all, question for you - is it possible to bridge distances between a hue strip light and a 1m extension piece? I want to light above and below my kitchen presses, which are in two blocks, seperated by an extractor unit . there's a power point above the units on one side and I'd like to run a wire across the extractor fan space... Hope this is clear.

    Thanks


  • #286
    Roen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭Roen


    adox wrote: »
    I tempted to get a sensor and a couple of the new white ambient lights to add to the collection. Would be used in my hallway.

    Anyone using the sensor? How are you finding it? Also are the newer white ambients worth the extra cost over the old "plain" white?

    I'm using three sensors. Best part of the whole Hue set up if you ask me!

    They are tweakable on light level so they only trigger the light when it gets dim enough. Will take you a day or two to dial that down but once you do it's set and forget.

    I don't have the plain Jane white ones but love the white ambiance. The sensor triggers a nice warm white during the evening and later at night they trigger a low reddish light so you don't fry your eyes.
    I have the kitchen lights also on a dimmer so I can get a brighter bluer light for detail work if I'm arsing about at the table.

    Have the main living areas of the house covered with sensors. I now begrudge having to touch a switch when I head out the back or into the jacks.

    Would highly recommend the sensor.

    *Edit* Will be adding a fourth sensor form the Samsung Smartthings starter pack to trigger lights upstairs too. So that will make 4 in total.


  • #287
    Roen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭Roen


    The Black Oil wrote: »
    Intrigued by this sort of thing and have read the thread. Only concern is the security of the product itself.

    In what respects? I know there were some hacks on them a while back but new firmware sorted that pronto. There's fairly frequent FW updates too.

    Worst is they won't work and you swap them for the ones you took out IF something happens hack wise. Be different if they were smart locks and you could pop open your front door.


  • #288
    Roen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭Roen


    Palofmine wrote: »
    Hi all, question for you - is it possible to bridge distances between a hue strip light and a 1m extension piece? I want to light above and below my kitchen presses, which are in two blocks, seperated by an extractor unit . there's a power point above the units on one side and I'd like to run a wire across the extractor fan space... Hope this is clear.

    Thanks

    Yes, easily DIY'd or you can get extenders too.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Hue/comments/3pj9dp/successfully_split_and_extended_the_hue_light/

    Can't find the link for the cables on Amazon. Will post when I do. They are literally just plug and play.

    *EDIT*
    2 pack of 1M extenders


  • #289
    adox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,023 ✭✭✭✭adox


    Palofmine wrote: »
    Hi all, question for you - is it possible to bridge distances between a hue strip light and a 1m extension piece? I want to light above and below my kitchen presses, which are in two blocks, seperated by an extractor unit . there's a power point above the units on one side and I'd like to run a wire across the extractor fan space... Hope this is clear.

    Thanks

    I have one lightstrip running across the top of the units with an extractor fan in the middle. Just have it running through the gap for the extractor fan on top.


  • #290
    The Black Oil
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,604 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Roen wrote: »
    In what respects? I know there were some hacks on them a while back but new firmware sorted that pronto. There's fairly frequent FW updates too.

    Worst is they won't work and you swap them for the ones you took out IF something happens hack wise. Be different if they were smart locks and you could pop open your front door.

    Talking to someone who said that - cloud managed by others (their servers) and that was a no go for him.

    Moderator: Television, Psychology and Dublin County North.

    CMod: Entertainment



  • #291
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,784 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Irish Gunner wrote: »
    Ordered the below and have to collect them on Monday

     I have Bayonet lights and looking if the below would suffice

     http://www.ikea.com/ie/en/products/lighting/light-bulbs-accessories/koppla-b22-to-e27-bulb-converter-art-90295615/

    These are the ones you want E27-B22


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  • #292
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,784 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    adox wrote: »
    I tempted to get a sensor and a couple of the new white ambient lights to add to the collection. Would be used in my hallway.

    Anyone using the sensor? How are you finding it? Also are the newer white ambients worth the extra cost over the old "plain" white?

    I have just set up my 2nd sensor, first one went in the kitchen, but then went to my office a few weeks later,
    I don't like the fact that the sensor settings will override a routine you may have running at the time the sensor is activated, example;
    early evening my kitchen lights are on (as per a routine I have set for a few hours), I then walk into the kitchen and nothing happens they are already on (though it's still detected my motion), but when the sensor detects no motion for a pre set amount of time, (in my case 5 minutes), it will turn all the kitchen lights off. I know I can set it to 10, 15, 20 minutes, or to do nothing when no motion is detected, but then in the middle of the night when the lights are normally off, and I want them to go off 5 minutes after detecting motion, it won't happen as I'll have set the app to do nothing in order to keep them on earlier when I want them to stay on via the routine I've set!

    Anyway, that went into my office, and I ended up buying another sensor, which is gone back into the kitchen for round 2!!

    I got onto them yesterday on their Facebook page (which in fairness to them, they usually respond within an hour or 2), and they did say it was a problem they were aware of, and hoping to work out soon in the next few updates.


  • #293
    Palofmine
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭Palofmine


    Roen wrote: »
    Yes, easily DIY'd or you can get extenders too.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Hue/comments/3pj9dp/successfully_split_and_extended_the_hue_light/

    Can't find the link for the cables on Amazon. Will post when I do. They are literally just plug and play.

    *EDIT*
    2 pack of 1M extenders

    That's fantastic - thanks a million!


  • #294
    Roen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭Roen


    The Black Oil wrote: »
    Talking to someone who said that - cloud managed by others (their servers) and that was a no go for him.

    It's not though. It stays entirely local unless you want to create an account and control it from outside your home.
    I have it imported into a Home Assistant install and connect to that to control it when away from home.

    That said I also have a hHue account and use that from time to time. Again though, it's a light. It doesn't have access to your bank account.


  • #295
    bk
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,163 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Roen wrote: »
    In what respects? I know there were some hacks on them a while back but new firmware sorted that pronto. There's fairly frequent FW updates too.

    Worst is they won't work and you swap them for the ones you took out IF something happens hack wise. Be different if they were smart locks and you could pop open your front door.

    Actually, worst that would happen hackwise is your hub getting hacked. You could just unplug the hub and continue to use the lights as standard lights with standard light switches.

    You would lose the ability to control the fancy features until you updated the hub, but would still have "basic" lighting control.
    The Black Oil wrote: »
    Talking to someone who said that - cloud managed by others (their servers) and that was a no go for him.

    As Roen pointed out, that person is wrong.

    They are fully managed locally by the Hue hub/bridge. It is one of the advantages of this system. Even if your broadband/wifi goes down, you still have full local control over the lights (turn on/off/dimm/change colour, etc.).

    The cloud service is only an optional service that you can use if you want to remotely control the lights, for instance if away on holidays. It can easily be disabled if it gets hacked, etc.


  • #296
    The Black Oil
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,604 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Thanks both. Guess I need to find a good price for the starter kit now, eh? How about lamps, etc, that are not screw in, but are more like this or this?

    Moderator: Television, Psychology and Dublin County North.

    CMod: Entertainment



  • #297
    bk
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,163 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    The Black Oil wrote: »
    Thanks both. Guess I need to find a good price for the starter kit now, eh? How about lamps, etc, that are not screw in, but are more like this or this?

    Your links are broken.

    Hue bulbs come in both screw in e27 and bayonet style b22. You can use an e27 bulb in a b22 light fitting using an adaptor, though it will make it stick out further. However lamps usually use smaller light bulbs sizes then the ceiling type light bulbs. Currently hue has no bulbs suited to those sort of lamps.


  • #298
    The Black Oil
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    These sort of yolks are b22, I take it.

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  • #299
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,421 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    I was prompted by this post to get back to the question of how secure anybody's smart home is.

    At my place, I've a bunch of Hue lightbulbs, a HeatMiser system which is about 50% working, a disconnected (experimental) Canary security camera and a few smart plugs on the way to control the electrical input to the immersion heater and the boiler overall. At best, security appears to be an afterthought with all of these systems, where it's present at all.

    Problems are:

    1. Hue - the recent worm attack is a problem for the underlying Zigbee protocol. At the app level, in order to activate your lights from outside your home, you must either (a) expose them to the internet and risk criminals knowing everything about your lights (ransom against damage/random usage, drop-in crime when lights are off, figuring out which houses have the largest installations); or (b) login to the Hue website and control them via that - I presume there's a secure link from the controller to the Hue site - lots of problems here anyway - what happens if the site goes down or gets hacked (see previous problem list). No idea if Hue's have default embedded access credentials, bricking bugs, remotely-triggered firmware update problems etc. They probably do.

    2. HeatMiser - in 2014, a security researcher found that HeatMiser's security was crap. No idea if it's been fixed. There are similar risks to having your home heating system available over the internet as to having your home lighting available - criminals with access to presence information, house-size, geo-location, etc.

    3. Canary - bought this off the Apple website and the thing is unbelievably intrusive - it demanded my home address and telephone number (you can proceed without both, but it nags you), I think it tried to geo-ip me, it won't work with a local media server and instead, uploaded all video to a server in the USA. There are so many security issues with this, I don't even know where to begin other than to ask if you'd enjoy criminals of different kinds seeing what goes on inside your house while knowing exactly where the house is. Here's an article from yesterday's Farmer's Journal yesterday on CCTV-related security problems in the farming sector. I left the Canary running for a day or two just to see whether the service was useful (it is), then unplugged it permanently. BTW, the Canary only retains the previous 12 hours or so of footage - if you want more than that, then you've to buy a $50/year subscription.

    To control the above devices, my home network is firewalled (to block random attacks from outside probably better than the Virgin Media Horizon box might do) and more directly usefully, it's providing a VPN so that when I'm not at home, my phone can connect securely to the firewall box and be persuaded to think that it's actually on the home network and I can then control heating and the other stuff via the usual mobile apps.

    At a basic level, I would recommend that nobody port-forwards from their broadband box to smart devices as they then become open to attack from outside. If they're accessible without port-forwarding, then I recommend blocking the ports on the broadband box for the same reason. If the device supplier provides a website through which you can control your devices, I recommend deleting/closing the account. Geofencing, which is supported on a few systems (I believe Nest + Canary) is a criminal's wet dream :(

    Be aware also that some devices harvest and aggregate usage data - potentially for nefarious purposes, especially if the information is leaked or hacked.

    Thoughts?


  • #300
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,784 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    The Black Oil wrote: »
    These sort of yolks are b22, I take it.

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    Yes, B22 = Bayonet 22mm (the most common type in Ireland)

    E27= Edison screw 27mm


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  • #301
    Stillnotworking
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 243 ✭✭Stillnotworking


    OU812 wrote: »
    You can add up to a total of 50 bulbs in any configuration.

    Thanks for that, wanted to make sure.


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