El Presidente Trump

ECO_Mental · 06-12-2016 11:06PM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

He is in NY Tower because the security arrangements would be even worse in Washington. Their is already a protest movement out there on the streets that want him removed from power. Leaving NY causes headaches for security and he's not exactly popular in DC. You know might have a dagger stuck in his back on the steps of Congress. Don't think it could not happen. President's have been assassinated for less.

He is at more risk in Washington....... The city with the highest police per population in the world, where the pentagon is based, the secret service is based, a city that is probably the safest place to be in the world if you are a politician etc etc.

Who are you trying to fool here? It's amazing the mind gymnastics people will do to justify things. Seriously think about what you said there.

Christy42 · 06-12-2016 11:14PM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

He is in NY Tower because the security arrangements would be even worse in Washington. Their is already a protest movement out there on the streets that want him removed from power. Leaving NY causes headaches for security and he's not exactly popular in DC. You know might have a dagger stuck in his back on the steps of Congress. Don't think it could not happen. President's have been assassinated for less.

Pretty sure the security arrangements are better in Washington where they have needed them for the past while...

Of course now his property has a nice new amenity to offer

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/309008-real-estate-agency-promoting-secret-service-as-trump-tower#

Billy86 · 06-12-2016 11:22PM

Trent Houseboat wrote: »

Everyone has accepted that. What thread are you reading?

Do you remember as a kid prank calling your local pizza place/chipper/whatever over and over and over again until they copped it and just stopped responding?

Well...

Renegade Mechanic · 06-12-2016 11:40PM

Billy86 wrote: »

The election is done, quit obsessing over it, and grow a thicker skin if you can't take him being cricised for his weak and incompetent actions.

It's honesty just cute watching you lot scrambling over yer own necks to get in these "grow a thicker skin" jibes, after spending a probably two years being told that, when you're talking to people that you're only bouncing off of in here

Billy86 wrote: »

Your ongoing need to talk about people who are not Donald Trump rather than Trump himself in the Donald Trump thread says all it needs to really, but since the month Obama who you were trying to fob off as nothing more than a "community organiser" took office there are over 10 million more employed in the US

Yeah, those two hour contracts being classified as "jobs", great altogether :pac:

Billy86 wrote: »

the Dow Jones has gone from 9,100 to 19,100,

Not necessarily a good thing when the tab is called.

Billy86 wrote: »

while the $USD has rise 13c against the Euro

Which has fallen in value :pac:

Billy86 wrote: »

13c against the £GBP

Which has fallen in value :pac:

Billy86 wrote: »

14c against the $CAD

Which has fallen in value :pac:

Billy86 wrote: »

and 19c (more than double) against the Russian Rubble.

Which has - really?
That's like Usain Bolt winning a race because the man on crutches he took on, with the broken right leg, broke his right one halfway through.

KingBrian2 · 07-12-2016 01:15AM

ECO_Mental wrote: »

He is at more risk in Washington....... The city with the highest police per population in the world, where the pentagon is based, the secret service is based, a city that is probably the safest place to be in the world if you are a politician etc etc.

Who are you trying to fool here? It's amazing the mind gymnastics people will do to justify things. Seriously think about what you said there.

Their have been many breaches in security when Obama was in office. As for Washington having a high police presence. That is not going to stop a committed protestor from launching some daring attack on the President. One can never be 100% safe of course not however in this case their is no trouble Trump staying in his Tower and handling his business until the swearing in takes place. He will be in Washington very soon and for the rest of his presidency. Staying in his private Tower is not a inconvenience to the secret service. They get paid to look after the President wherever he is.

Christy42 · 07-12-2016 01:18AM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

It's honesty just cute watching you lot scrambling over yer own necks to get in these "grow a thicker skin" jibes, after spending a probably two years being told that, when you're talking to people that you're only bouncing off of in here

Yeah, those two hour contracts being classified as "jobs", great altogether :pac:

Not necessarily a good thing when the tab is called.

Which has fallen in value :pac:

Which has fallen in value :pac:

Which has fallen in value :pac:

Which has - really?
That's like Usain Bolt winning a race because the man on crutches he took on, with the broken right leg, broke his right one halfway through.

You know currencies are relative right? If all the others fall that means you have risen. Seriously it means he either improved the dollar or avoided the various issues that damaged the others.

I think it is adorable that people spent years telling the left to grow a thicker skin and then to say that the left wing media insulting Trump voters is why he won. In fairness I can't remember if you did it but many people seem to have put the blame on people being insulted and saying well they only have the left wing media to blame (which seems to me like an admission that Trump and the right is terrible but I digress). It doesn't show thick skin and the person with the thirst skin is the man all these people cheered for to be president.

Billy86 · 07-12-2016 01:40AM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

It's honesty just cute watching you lot scrambling over yer own necks to get in these "grow a thicker skin" jibes, after spending a probably two years being told that, when you're talking to people that you're only bouncing off of in here

Not half as cute as you lot being so desperate to be such offended snowflakes despite all sh*teing about 'free speech', 'down with PC Madness', 'just tell it like it is' and on and on and on, all while just as eagerly painting yourselves as the victims at every possible turn.

Yeah, those two hour contracts being classified as "jobs", great altogether :pac:

Wrong. There are 8.5 million more full time jobs in the US today than there was the month Obama took office, and 13.5mn more than the end of his first year when the whole situation he inherited from BushCo had just about bottomed out.

Not necessarily a good thing when the tab is called.

Yet if it wasn't high, that would be used as one of the main sticks to beat Obama over the head with.

Which has fallen in value :pac:
Which has fallen in value :pac:
Which has fallen in value :pac:
Which has - really?

Plenty of your lot seem so fond of Putin that Russia is fully relevant.

And yes, obviously, they are weaker... against the dollar. Do you know how currencies work

? Because the US dollar is the strongest it has been in over 13 years - since about a fortnight after the Iraq invasion, actually.

That's like Usain Bolt winning a race because the man on crutches he took on, with the broken right leg, broke his right one halfway through.

Well then, since you consider the USD as Obama has left it 'the Usain Bolt' of currencies, then thank you for backing up my point but I'm not sure why you needed to sound so argumentative in doing so.

namloc1980 · 07-12-2016 02:36AM

Why is Ivanka at meetings with the Japanese Prime Minister while at the same time hawking her goods into Japan? The conflicts of interest are astounding. The presidency is basically a get (even more) rich scheme for the Trump family.

mickmackey1 · 07-12-2016 02:40AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Why is Ivanka at meetings with the Japanese Prime Minister while at the same time hawking her goods into Japan? The conflicts of interest are astounding. The presidency is basically a get (even more) rich scheme for the Trump family.

And the Clintons are like poverty-stricken :rolleyes:

~Rebel~ · 07-12-2016 03:13AM

mickmackey1 wrote: »

And the Clintons are like poverty-stricken :rolleyes:

I think you missed their point completely...Clinton doesn't have a business which is very directly tied into what decisions they make in office...Trump does.

If you personally represent two things, with conflicting goals, it's possible you will use your power with one of those things to influence the other. It's exactly why all previous Presidents have passed their previous professional assets and roles into a blind trust, something which hasn't been done now.

Someone like Ivanka could well find herself in a position where she has to make a decision/offer advice that does a disservice to either her country, or her corporation - both of which she has a duty to have the best interests in mind for.

Hank Scorpio · 07-12-2016 03:23AM

~Rebel~ wrote: »

I think you missed their point completely...Clinton doesn't have a business which is very directly tied into what decisions they make in office...Trump does.

Clearly Trumps business interests needs to completely separated from office.

Serious question, are you suggesting Hillary Clinton isn't owned by Wall St. and the big banks? I mean there's emails leaked showing George Soros telling Hillary what to do in places like Albania while she was secretary of state, never mind the foundation corruption.

If you're not suggesting that, nevermind!

TheOven · 07-12-2016 04:06AM

InTheTrees wrote: »

Trump just made ben Carson the secretary of housing and urban development.

Carson is the guy who thinks the pyramids were actually grain silos.

No doubt he'll have some "interesting" ideas about urban development.

Trump probably misunderstood what is meant by urban development.

Jimmy Garlic · 07-12-2016 05:41AM

mickmackey1 wrote: »

And the Clintons are like poverty-stricken :rolleyes:

Still no word on the money they they collected but never gave to Haiti.

07-12-2016 06:20AM

Talking about Trump's conflicts is fair enough but implying that Clinton wouldn't have had any isn't. This stuff isn't in conspiracy land anymore and anyone can look at the proof if they're bothered looking.

To say Clinton didn't have conflicts is just a complicated way of saying you have no idea what you're talking about.

tomwaterford · 07-12-2016 06:40AM

I taught he done well today in at least proposing to stop the Boeing air force one deal

(Presumably to redirect money to wall building???)

Christy42 · 07-12-2016 08:12AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Talking about Trump's conflicts is fair enough but implying that Clinton wouldn't have had any isn't. This stuff isn't in conspiracy land anymore and anyone can look at the proof if they're bothered looking.

To say Clinton didn't have conflicts is just a complicated way of saying you have no idea what you're talking about.

So you are saying Trump should be impeached? Since you agree he has massive conflict of interests.

ebbsy · 07-12-2016 08:19AM

Recount update.

Michigan appeals court rules Jill Stein had no grounds to ask for a recount. Which she didn't of course. She finished 4th.

Wisconsin. Trump grows his lead.

Exeggcute · 07-12-2016 08:30AM

~Rebel~ wrote: »

I think you missed their point completely...Clinton doesn't have a business which is very directly tied into what decisions they make in office...Trump does.

If you personally represent two things, with conflicting goals, it's possible you will use your power with one of those things to influence the other. It's exactly why all previous Presidents have passed their previous professional assets and roles into a blind trust, something which hasn't been done now.

Someone like Ivanka could well find herself in a position where she has to make a decision/offer advice that does a disservice to either her country, or her corporation - both of which she has a duty to have the best interests in mind for.

Hahaha seriously? If only Clinton had a slush fund that takes millions in donations from heads of state and corporations at critical junctures in their negotiations with the U.S. state department. Instead she has the Clinton Foundation.

Oh wait....

Fcuking lol

Igotadose · 07-12-2016 08:52AM

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Still no word on the money they they collected but never gave to Haiti.

Plenty of word. More CT: try this one (there's lots more, this link might help you):https://lmgtfy.com/?q=clinton+foundation+haiti

Try the WaPo link there, or the ones from politifact or slate.

While you're at it, any proof to your contention about the 'grabbing' comment and how all New Yorker's say this? I don't and I'm NYC born and raised. Likewise most of my male relatives and my wife's as well.

Christy42 · 07-12-2016 09:04AM

Igotadose wrote: »

Plenty of word. More CT: try this one (there's lots more, this link might help you):https://lmgtfy.com/?q=clinton+foundation+haiti

Try the WaPo link there, or the ones from politifact or slate.

While you're at it, any proof to your contention about the 'grabbing' comment and how all New Yorker's say this? I don't and I'm NYC born and raised. Likewise most of my male relatives and my wife's as well.

I wouldn't entertain them. They refuse to talk about Trump in an even slightly critical way in a post that doesn't say Clinton is worse. I have to keep checking that the thread is meant to be about Trump.

HellSquirrel · 07-12-2016 09:34AM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

He will be in Washington very soon and for the rest of his presidency. Staying in his private Tower is not a inconvenience to the secret service. They get paid to look after the President wherever he is.

Except it quite obviously is a huge inconvenience to other people living on and working on the main spine of middle Manhattan as they've been saying for weeks now. And I don't know if it's changed, but he was talking about staying in his tower for weekends/when he can, which means the poor sods have four years of traffic chaos hitting the main arterial traffic flow randomly.

Christy42 wrote: »

I wouldn't entertain them. They refuse to talk about Trump in an even slightly critical way in a post that doesn't say Clinton is worse. I have to keep checking that the thread is meant to be about Trump.

It's like they haven't twigged that Clinton lost yet. Question, you folks that keep coming in to interrupt the conversation with demanding to know why people don't "get over it" - why do you keep trying to shut down the conversation? Is it because you don't like the topic? There's a few of you basically leaping up and down and shouting not to look at the man behind the curtain. Why on earth do you think that's going to work when we watched the guy behind the curtain get elected and then start adding lots more curtains to hide under while the flying monkeys are invited in to run the show?

Jelle1880 · 07-12-2016 09:43AM

ebbsy wrote: »

It is time for everybody to accept that The Donald will take over the reigns of power, and move on.

The only ones who need to move on are those that think he's above board and shouldn't be criticised. They're gonna be in for a bad 4 years if they're already getting upset about it

ebbsy · 07-12-2016 10:17AM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

ebbsy wrote: »

It is time for everybody to accept that The Donald will take over the reigns of power, and move on.

The only ones who need to move on are those that think he's above board and shouldn't be criticised. They're gonna be in for a bad 4 years if they're already getting upset about it

8 actually.

Billy86 · 07-12-2016 10:18AM

ebbsy wrote: »

8 actually.

"Hello I'd like to order a pizza"

"Can I get your name please?"

"I.P. Freely, tee-hee-hee!"

Billy86 · 07-12-2016 10:51AM

So it turns out Trump's lying Tweets about Boeing yesterday dropped the company's share price $1.2bn. How many manufacturing jobs is that going to lose in their facility at small town, blue collar Everett, WA? It's populations is 103,000 and Boeing employee 30,000 there.

Christy42 · 07-12-2016 10:57AM

Billy86 wrote: »

So it turns out Trump's lying Tweets about Boeing yesterday dropped the company's share price $1.2bn. How many manufacturing jobs is that going to lose in their facility at small town, blue collar Everett, WA? It's populations is 103,000 and Boeing employee 30,000 there.

While he is an idiot I doubt it will cost any. The share prices dipped and will recover when people realise he is not going to stop the order going through. He is all hot air. On twitter he can give the impression of saving tax payer money and stopping silly spending without actually doing anything.

Trent Houseboat · 07-12-2016 10:58AM

Yeah but Clinton would probably have sent all 30, 000 off to fight Russians for Syrian oil and sold their children to paedophile rings to raise money to murder Haitians.
And that's the most important thing.

The fact is they know that Trump is an indefensible fraud so they continue to spread lies about a person who has no further relevance just to distract people trying speak freely about what a clown he is.

seamus · 07-12-2016 11:02AM

Christy42 wrote: »

While he is an idiot I doubt it will cost any. The share prices dipped and will recover when people realise he is not going to stop the order going through. He is all hot air. On twitter he can give the impression of saving tax payer money and stopping silly spending without actually doing anything.

In this case, it won't cost anything. But what will be the cumulative long-term effect to the U.S.'s reputation?

Trump doesn't seem to get that he's can't just go on rants on Twitter any more. Everything he tweets is the equivalent of calling a press conference to make a statement. The more outright nonsense he spouts, the more clueless he exposes himself to be, the less seriously him and his administration will be taken by the whole world.

The guy will be sitting at tables discussing serious matters with world leaders and they'll all just be rolling their eyes saying, "Sure, just pipe down there Donald, we know you're full of it". He's like a kid who just learned how to play poker being sat down at a table full of professionals. The other world leaders will play him like a fiddle and turn the US into a complete joke.

07-12-2016 11:08AM

Christy42 wrote: »

So you are saying Trump should be impeached? Since you agree he has massive conflict of interests.

No, when did I come close to saying that?

Do you honestly think be deserves to be impeached because he currently has conflicts of interest? The subject at hand here seems to be that his wife sells shoes?

Trent Houseboat · 07-12-2016 11:09AM

She's his daughter, but even he gets confused sometimes

El Presidente Trump

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