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Eir rural FTTH thread

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  • #2372
    KeRbDoG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭KeRbDoG


    Gonzo wrote: »
    for me it's the same on everything. grey background, no names. Can just see the blue lines and dots.

    Same here btw, seems to be a little borked


  • #2373
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,084 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    snowstreams wrote: »
    Ok so 55, 63, 75 euro a month for the 150,300,1000MB connections respectively.

    Not a bad price for the 150MB option for any rural customer.

    A bit better than 'not bad'.
    It is approximately equal to what I pay presently for 5 or 6 Mb/s :)

    Still waiting though .....


  • #2374
    legocrazy505
    Closed Accounts Posts: 691 ✭✭✭legocrazy505


    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    A bit better than 'not bad'.
    It is approximately equal to what I pay presently for 5 or 6 Mb/s :)

    Still waiting though .....

    Yeah, 55 euro is only 10 euros more than what we pay for 1.5mbps and phone with Vodafone. I'd happily pay 75 euro too for that 1000mbps considering for a house with 4 people like ours you could just forget about lag and slow downloads forever. :P


  • #2375
    Tommy Lagahan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭Tommy Lagahan


    Just got confirmation from my uncle that works for Eir that since the house isn't on the blue line I won't be getting fiber til Eir get the NBP money. 2KM away from fiber, stuck on 3G for another year or 2, GG. He tried to push with the higher ups to get it up here but no go. He does reckon that they want the POTS system gone within 5 years though to save on maintenence costs.


  • #2376
    rob808
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭rob808


    Gonzo wrote: »
    tomorrow trace your line back near the start of the exchange, there should be ducting of some sort, coded in white paint with numbers and arrows. Then when the poles start there should be yellow painted codes for every 2nd or 3rd pole starting off with WP1 Start and an arrow, beside end of blue line should be WP (number) END.

    If that's the case wiring should be very close.
    Tommy Lagahan wrote: »
    Just got confirmation from my uncle that works for Eir that since the house isn't on the blue line I won't be getting fiber til Eir get the NBP money. 2KM away from fiber, stuck on 3G for another year or 2, GG. He tried to push with the higher ups to get it up here but no go. He does reckon that they want the POTS system gone within 5 years though to save on maintenence costs.
    That a shame hard luck at least your uncle try hopefully the NBP starts late 2017/early 2018.


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  • #2377
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,084 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Tommy Lagahan wrote: »
    Just got confirmation from my uncle that works for Eir that since the house isn't on the blue line I won't be getting fiber til Eir get the NBP money. 2KM away from fiber, stuck on 3G for another year or 2, GG. He tried to push with the higher ups to get it up here but no go. He does reckon that they want the POTS system gone within 5 years though to save on maintenence costs.

    Time to talk nicely with one of those who can get it, about sharing and neighbourliness. :D


  • #2378
    rob808
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭rob808


    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    Time to talk nicely with one of those who can get it, about sharing and neighbourliness. :D
    I don't see that happening who in there right mind would do that :).


  • #2379
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,454 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    rob808 wrote: »
    I don't see that happening who in there right mind would do that :).

    This User

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • #2380
    OverRide
    Closed Accounts Posts: 665 ✭✭✭OverRide


    I see OFCOM in the UK are directing BT to legally separate open reach from BT because of competition concerns

    I presume Open Eir is Eir's equivalent of open reach?


  • #2381
    ads20101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭ads20101


    OverRide wrote: »
    I see OFCOM in the UK are directing BT to legally separate open reach from BT because of competition concerns

    I presume Open Eir is Eir's equivalent of open reach?

    Yes, structuraly they are similar.

    Not sure if comreg has the same size of balls though to enforce such an obviously beneficial move.


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  • #2382
    murphaph
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,991 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    Tommy Lagahan wrote: »
    Just got confirmation from my uncle that works for Eir that since the house isn't on the blue line I won't be getting fiber til Eir get the NBP money. 2KM away from fiber, stuck on 3G for another year or 2, GG. He tried to push with the higher ups to get it up here but no go. He does reckon that they want the POTS system gone within 5 years though to save on maintenence costs.
    I'd imagine you'd have an angry mob on your hands here if you told them you could get yourself bumped up the waiting list! :pac:


  • #2383
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,084 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    rob808 wrote: »
    I don't see that happening who in there right mind would do that :).

    I would ..... but maybe I am not in my right mind :)

    If a neighbour missed out on a blue line that I received I would have no problem facilitating a sharing arrangement with them.


  • #2384
    KOR101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭KOR101


    ads20101 wrote: »
    Yes, structuraly they are similar.

    Not sure if comreg has the same size of balls though to enforce such an obviously beneficial move.
    Not a move they'll do here until others go first.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/11/29/bts-divorce-openreach-heads-brussels-ofcom-loses-patience/

    If Brussels does agree to the move, Patterson has a mandate from shareholders to oppose Ofcom’s plans in the courts, a process that in a Telegraph interview in July 2015 he warned could mean “10 years of litigation and arguments”.


  • #2385
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Comreg copy Ofcom and OpenEir copy OpenReach. We'll follow their lead.


  • #2386
    plodder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,784 ✭✭✭plodder


    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    I would ..... but maybe I am not in my right mind :)

    If a neighbour missed out on a blue line that I received I would have no problem facilitating a sharing arrangement with them.
    Could be tricky if the neighbour is 2km away though.


  • #2387
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    Time to talk nicely with one of those who can get it, about sharing and neighbourliness. :D
    Get a pair of these. ;)
    https://www.ubnt.com/airmax/litebeam-ac-ap/


  • #2388
    Finne1993
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭Finne1993


    There was an eir sales person in our area (Rural Carlingford) today taking orders for eir fibre extreme, it's officially going live to approximately 160 homes on the 21st December although I'd imagine it's doubtful anyone will be connected before Christmas, they were pushing the broadband, telephone & TV package which is a waste in my eyes, what most people want here is broadband only, obviously they are on high commission to sell the full package!
    We won't know ourselves out here in the sticks with a 1gb connection!


  • #2389
    plodder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,784 ✭✭✭plodder


    Finne1993 wrote: »
    There was an eir sales person in our area (Rural Carlingford) today taking orders for eir fibre extreme, it's officially going live to approximately 160 homes on the 21st December although I'd imagine it's doubtful anyone will be connected before Christmas, they were pushing the broadband, telephone & TV package which is a waste in my eyes, what most people want here is broadband only, obviously they are on high commission to sell the full package!
    We won't know ourselves out here in the sticks with a 1gb connection!
    We used to get TV over MMDS which was common in rural areas but switched off earlier this year. We're due to get FTTH but had Eir been quicker off the mark, I probably would have gone for a TV plus b/b package.


  • #2390
    Gwynston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Gwynston


    Finne1993 wrote: »
    There was an eir sales person in our area ... they were pushing the broadband, telephone & TV package which is a waste in my eyes, what most people want here is broadband only, obviously they are on high commission to sell the full package!

    I can't believe that! Rural fibre is only starting to be rolled out and already they're trying to fill it all up by streaming everyone's TV in place of perfectly good existing technology :rolleyes:

    The internet was never designed to be a platform for providing TV - it's such a waste of bandwidth! We might all be drooling at the thought of 1GB connections, but I tell you - in a few years time if everyone in the country is streaming (and recording for later veiwing) dozens of 4K-definition channels, there will be little bandwidth left for anything else. :(


  • #2391
    Tommy Lagahan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭Tommy Lagahan


    murphaph wrote: »
    I'd imagine you'd have an angry mob on your hands here if you told them you could get yourself bumped up the waiting list! :pac:

    At the same time which of yas wouldn't try it yerselves in my position :P

    Next step is to infiltrate Eir personally and start planning a fiber heist :pac:

    At least the people who do get on the FTTH in the area will no longer be hogging bandwidth on the 3G tower (not that my massive 1M long MIMO antennas aren't ruining it for everyone else anyway...heh) since there's a good 300-400 houses in the area relying on wireless of some sort.


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  • #2392
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Tommy Lagahan wrote: »
    (not that my massive 1M long MIMO antennas aren't ruining it for everyone else anyway...heh)

    Ironically, decent antennas are probably improving the situation for others - nothing saps cell capacity like poor signals.


  • #2393
    plodder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,784 ✭✭✭plodder


    Gwynston wrote: »
    I can't believe that! Rural fibre is only starting to be rolled out and already they're trying to fill it all up by streaming everyone's TV in place of perfectly good existing technology :rolleyes:

    The internet was never designed to be a platform for providing TV - it's such a waste of bandwidth! We might all be drooling at the thought of 1GB connections, but I tell you - in a few years time if everyone in the country is streaming (and recording for later veiwing) dozens of 4K-definition channels, there will be little bandwidth left for anything else. :(
    I think the internet has long passed being "what it was designed for" :)

    It's only a matter of a small number of years also before on-demand services will overtake broadcast. Though for what it's worth, broadcast can be done quite efficiently on fibre.


  • #2394
    lbyrne121
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭lbyrne121


    hi sorry to add to this thread but I was wondering if someone can help.. I am moving house and I have rang eircom and they said that the I can only get speeds up to 2mb... I presume that is really bad? anyone know what it is like to have speeds like that?

    I have attached a picture below my house is on the blue line there is no broadband but around 3km from my house there is a green dot that says "Fibre Build commenced - completion work is in progress" does this mean that I will be getting fiber broadband soon in the area?  I have circled in black the green spot and also the X where my house is. 
    It also says that  FTTH Phase Q4 2016/Q12017 what does this mean?

    if anyone can give me any advice that would be great

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  • #2395
    murphaph
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,991 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    Gwynston wrote: »
    I can't believe that! Rural fibre is only starting to be rolled out and already they're trying to fill it all up by streaming everyone's TV in place of perfectly good existing technology :rolleyes:

    The internet was never designed to be a platform for providing TV - it's such a waste of bandwidth! We might all be drooling at the thought of 1GB connections, but I tell you - in a few years time if everyone in the country is streaming (and recording for later veiwing) dozens of 4K-definition channels, there will be little bandwidth left for anything else. :(
    Broadcast TV is dead/dying. Who the hell wants to be bound to the times of a broadcaster (except maybe for live events) in this day and age? On demand will more or less completely replace broadcast TV in a few years.


  • #2396
    ArthurG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭ArthurG


    Gwyn<script wrote:
    I can't believe that! Rural fibre is only starting to be rolled out and already they're trying to fill it all up by streaming everyone's TV in place of perfectly good existing technology :rolleyes:

    The internet was never designed to be a platform for providing TV - it's such a waste of bandwidth! We might all be drooling at the thought of 1GB connections, but I tell you - in a few years time if everyone in the country is streaming (and recording for later veiwing) dozens of 4K-definition channels, there will be little bandwidth left for anything else. :(

    This is very Irish 'good room' mentality - we have something great, but lets not use it for fear it wears out...... I think most people are a bit more forward looking these days. As a poster said above, this is the way its going.


  • #2397
    Gwynston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Gwynston


    lbyrne121 wrote: »
    hi sorry to add to this thread but I was wondering if someone can help.. I am moving house and I have rang eircom and they said that the I can only get speeds up to 2mb... I presume that is really bad? anyone know what it is like to have speeds like that? I have attached a picture below my house is on the blue line
    Looks like your house is on a road with a blue line - so you should get up to 1000MB Fiber To The Home in future!:D
    I think that blue line extends from the Revensdale exchange? That says "Estimated date for first Live Fibre Services is early/mid 2017".

    Meanwhile, 2MB is only really usable for general web browsing. YouTube viewing is barely possible and it will not cope very well with streaming. Downloading movies etc. will likely take longer than the duration of the movie.
    (Speaking from experience of a 1.7MB connection)


  • #2398
    lbyrne121
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭lbyrne121


    Gwynston wrote: »
    lbyrne121 wrote: »
    hi sorry to add to this thread but I was wondering if someone can help.. I am moving house and I have rang eircom and they said that the I can only get speeds up to 2mb... I presume that is really bad? anyone know what it is like to have speeds like that? I have attached a picture below my house is on the blue line
    Looks like your house is on a road with a blue line - so you should get up to 1000MB Fiber To The Home in future!:D
    I think that blue line extends from the Revensdale exchange? That says "Estimated date for first Live Fibre Services is early/mid 2017".

    Meanwhile, 2MB is only really usable for general web browsing. YouTube viewing is barely possible and it will not cope very well with streaming. Downloading movies etc. will likely take longer than the duration of the movie.
    (Speaking from experience of a 1.7MB connection)
    Thank you for your response?  are you familiar with this area?  I see that the Ballymascanlon area is currently Fibre Build commenced - completion work is in progress.. when that is completed would I be able to get broadband from that?
    I am in the Bellurgan area and was wondering how long it will actually be in the future are we talking years do you think or at some stage next year?

    Anyone else out there from the Bellurgan area know anything about expectations for Fibre broadband?


  • #2399
    Gwynston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Gwynston


    murphaph wrote: »
    Broadcast TV is dead/dying. Who the hell wants to be bound to the times of a broadcaster (except maybe for live events) in this day and age? On demand will more or less completely replace broadcast TV in a few years.
    ArthurG wrote: »
    This is very Irish 'good room' mentality - we have something great, but lets not use it for fear it wears out...... I think most people are a bit more forward looking these days. As a poster said above, this is the way its going.
    I'm not denying that On Demand TV is the future. But using the internet to provide it isn't what the internet was designed for. And we have other mechanisms that provide for that (satellite, cable).

    It's predicted that in a couple of years 80% of global internet capacity will be used up by video, putting a huge strain on the worldwide infrastructure.


  • #2400
    ArthurG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭ArthurG


    Gwynston wrote: »
    I'm not denying that On Demand TV is the future. But using the internet to provide it isn't what the internet was designed for. And we have other mechanisms that provide for that (satellite, cable)

    The internet was initially designed to share scientific information as far as I know, not for Facebook, selfies or shopping on eBay. Video already consumes huge amounts of the available bandwidth (Netflix utilising something like 40% of all traffic in NA).

    So the wonderful developments that we now take for granted and gigabit fibre that you are benefitting from are actually as a result of that huge demand, so be thankful that industry is proactively working to provide the capacity.


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  • #2401
    Gwynston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Gwynston


    lbyrne121 wrote: »
    Thank you for your response?  are you familiar with this area?  I see that the Ballymascanlon area is currently Fibre Build commenced - completion work is in progress.. when that is completed would I be able to get broadband from that?
    I am in the Bellurgan area and was wondering how long it will actually be in the future are we talking years do you think or at some stage next year?

    Anyone else out there from the Bellurgan area know anything about expectations for Fibre broadband?
    Sorry not familiar with the area at all - just going by the maps.

    The Ballymascanlon cabinet closest to your X is being upgraded and I presume will be the relay/connecting point for your blue line. Once that's done, you still need to wait for the blue lines in the Ravensdale exchange (which it looks like it's connected to) to be wired for FTTH. That's predicted as "early/mid 2017", but lots around the country are labelled the same, so who knows how longs it's gonna take to wire up all those blue lines (and in what order)?

    I'm in the same boat in Co. Galway. Hopefully sometime next year for us both! :cool:


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