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Eir rural FTTH thread

rob808

I made this thread for people on eir rural blue line FTTH please keep here and don't post in Eircom FTTH 66 towns 1 Gb thread about rural FTTH rollout.

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KeRbDoG

Gonzo wrote: »

for me it's the same on everything. grey background, no names. Can just see the blue lines and dots.

Same here btw, seems to be a little borked

Johnboy1951

snowstreams wrote: »

Ok so 55, 63, 75 euro a month for the 150,300,1000MB connections respectively.

Not a bad price for the 150MB option for any rural customer.

A bit better than 'not bad'.
It is approximately equal to what I pay presently for 5 or 6 Mb/s

Still waiting though .....

legocrazy505

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

A bit better than 'not bad'.
It is approximately equal to what I pay presently for 5 or 6 Mb/s

Still waiting though .....

Yeah, 55 euro is only 10 euros more than what we pay for 1.5mbps and phone with Vodafone. I'd happily pay 75 euro too for that 1000mbps considering for a house with 4 people like ours you could just forget about lag and slow downloads forever. :P

Tommy Lagahan

Just got confirmation from my uncle that works for Eir that since the house isn't on the blue line I won't be getting fiber til Eir get the NBP money. 2KM away from fiber, stuck on 3G for another year or 2, GG. He tried to push with the higher ups to get it up here but no go. He does reckon that they want the POTS system gone within 5 years though to save on maintenence costs.

rob808

Gonzo wrote: »

tomorrow trace your line back near the start of the exchange, there should be ducting of some sort, coded in white paint with numbers and arrows. Then when the poles start there should be yellow painted codes for every 2nd or 3rd pole starting off with WP1 Start and an arrow, beside end of blue line should be WP (number) END.

If that's the case wiring should be very close.

Tommy Lagahan wrote: »

Just got confirmation from my uncle that works for Eir that since the house isn't on the blue line I won't be getting fiber til Eir get the NBP money. 2KM away from fiber, stuck on 3G for another year or 2, GG. He tried to push with the higher ups to get it up here but no go. He does reckon that they want the POTS system gone within 5 years though to save on maintenence costs.

That a shame hard luck at least your uncle try hopefully the NBP starts late 2017/early 2018.

Johnboy1951

Tommy Lagahan wrote: »

Just got confirmation from my uncle that works for Eir that since the house isn't on the blue line I won't be getting fiber til Eir get the NBP money. 2KM away from fiber, stuck on 3G for another year or 2, GG. He tried to push with the higher ups to get it up here but no go. He does reckon that they want the POTS system gone within 5 years though to save on maintenence costs.

Time to talk nicely with one of those who can get it, about sharing and neighbourliness.

rob808

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Time to talk nicely with one of those who can get it, about sharing and neighbourliness.

I don't see that happening who in there right mind would do that

Gadgetman496

rob808 wrote: »

I don't see that happening who in there right mind would do that .

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OverRide

I see OFCOM in the UK are directing BT to legally separate open reach from BT because of competition concerns

I presume Open Eir is Eir's equivalent of open reach?

ads20101

OverRide wrote: »

I see OFCOM in the UK are directing BT to legally separate open reach from BT because of competition concerns

I presume Open Eir is Eir's equivalent of open reach?

Yes, structuraly they are similar.

Not sure if comreg has the same size of balls though to enforce such an obviously beneficial move.

murphaph

Tommy Lagahan wrote: »

Just got confirmation from my uncle that works for Eir that since the house isn't on the blue line I won't be getting fiber til Eir get the NBP money. 2KM away from fiber, stuck on 3G for another year or 2, GG. He tried to push with the higher ups to get it up here but no go. He does reckon that they want the POTS system gone within 5 years though to save on maintenence costs.

I'd imagine you'd have an angry mob on your hands here if you told them you could get yourself bumped up the waiting list! :pac:

Johnboy1951

rob808 wrote: »

I don't see that happening who in there right mind would do that .

I would ..... but maybe I am not in my right mind

If a neighbour missed out on a blue line that I received I would have no problem facilitating a sharing arrangement with them.

KOR101

ads20101 wrote: »

Yes, structuraly they are similar.

Not sure if comreg has the same size of balls though to enforce such an obviously beneficial move.

Not a move they'll do here until others go first.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/11/29/bts-divorce-openreach-heads-brussels-ofcom-loses-patience/

If Brussels does agree to the move, Patterson has a mandate from shareholders to oppose Ofcom’s plans in the courts, a process that in a Telegraph interview in July 2015 he warned could mean “10 years of litigation and arguments”.

ED E

Comreg copy Ofcom and OpenEir copy OpenReach. We'll follow their lead.

plodder

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

I would ..... but maybe I am not in my right mind

If a neighbour missed out on a blue line that I received I would have no problem facilitating a sharing arrangement with them.

Could be tricky if the neighbour is 2km away though.

[Deleted User]

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Time to talk nicely with one of those who can get it, about sharing and neighbourliness.

Get a pair of these.

https://www.ubnt.com/airmax/litebeam-ac-ap/

Finne1993

There was an eir sales person in our area (Rural Carlingford) today taking orders for eir fibre extreme, it's officially going live to approximately 160 homes on the 21st December although I'd imagine it's doubtful anyone will be connected before Christmas, they were pushing the broadband, telephone & TV package which is a waste in my eyes, what most people want here is broadband only, obviously they are on high commission to sell the full package!
We won't know ourselves out here in the sticks with a 1gb connection!

plodder

Finne1993 wrote: »

There was an eir sales person in our area (Rural Carlingford) today taking orders for eir fibre extreme, it's officially going live to approximately 160 homes on the 21st December although I'd imagine it's doubtful anyone will be connected before Christmas, they were pushing the broadband, telephone & TV package which is a waste in my eyes, what most people want here is broadband only, obviously they are on high commission to sell the full package!
We won't know ourselves out here in the sticks with a 1gb connection!

We used to get TV over MMDS which was common in rural areas but switched off earlier this year. We're due to get FTTH but had Eir been quicker off the mark, I probably would have gone for a TV plus b/b package.

Gwynston

Finne1993 wrote: »

There was an eir sales person in our area ... they were pushing the broadband, telephone & TV package which is a waste in my eyes, what most people want here is broadband only, obviously they are on high commission to sell the full package!

I can't believe that! Rural fibre is only starting to be rolled out and already they're trying to fill it all up by streaming everyone's TV in place of perfectly good existing technology :rolleyes:

The internet was never designed to be a platform for providing TV - it's such a waste of bandwidth! We might all be drooling at the thought of 1GB connections, but I tell you - in a few years time if everyone in the country is streaming (and recording for later veiwing) dozens of 4K-definition channels, there will be little bandwidth left for anything else.

Tommy Lagahan

murphaph wrote: »

I'd imagine you'd have an angry mob on your hands here if you told them you could get yourself bumped up the waiting list! :pac:

At the same time which of yas wouldn't try it yerselves in my position :P

Next step is to infiltrate Eir personally and start planning a fiber heist :pac:

At least the people who do get on the FTTH in the area will no longer be hogging bandwidth on the 3G tower (not that my massive 1M long MIMO antennas aren't ruining it for everyone else anyway...heh) since there's a good 300-400 houses in the area relying on wireless of some sort.

oscarBravo

Tommy Lagahan wrote: »

(not that my massive 1M long MIMO antennas aren't ruining it for everyone else anyway...heh)

Ironically, decent antennas are probably improving the situation for others - nothing saps cell capacity like poor signals.

plodder

Gwynston wrote: »

I can't believe that! Rural fibre is only starting to be rolled out and already they're trying to fill it all up by streaming everyone's TV in place of perfectly good existing technology :rolleyes:

The internet was never designed to be a platform for providing TV - it's such a waste of bandwidth! We might all be drooling at the thought of 1GB connections, but I tell you - in a few years time if everyone in the country is streaming (and recording for later veiwing) dozens of 4K-definition channels, there will be little bandwidth left for anything else.

I think the internet has long passed being "what it was designed for"

It's only a matter of a small number of years also before on-demand services will overtake broadcast. Though for what it's worth, broadcast can be done quite efficiently on fibre.

lbyrne121

hi sorry to add to this thread but I was wondering if someone can help.. I am moving house and I have rang eircom and they said that the I can only get speeds up to 2mb... I presume that is really bad? anyone know what it is like to have speeds like that?

I have attached a picture below my house is on the blue line there is no broadband but around 3km from my house there is a green dot that says "Fibre Build commenced - completion work is in progress" does this mean that I will be getting fiber broadband soon in the area? I have circled in black the green spot and also the X where my house is.
It also says that FTTH Phase Q4 2016/Q12017 what does this mean?

if anyone can give me any advice that would be great

murphaph

Gwynston wrote: »

I can't believe that! Rural fibre is only starting to be rolled out and already they're trying to fill it all up by streaming everyone's TV in place of perfectly good existing technology :rolleyes:

The internet was never designed to be a platform for providing TV - it's such a waste of bandwidth! We might all be drooling at the thought of 1GB connections, but I tell you - in a few years time if everyone in the country is streaming (and recording for later veiwing) dozens of 4K-definition channels, there will be little bandwidth left for anything else.

Broadcast TV is dead/dying. Who the hell wants to be bound to the times of a broadcaster (except maybe for live events) in this day and age? On demand will more or less completely replace broadcast TV in a few years.

ArthurG

Gwyn<script wrote:

I can't believe that! Rural fibre is only starting to be rolled out and already they're trying to fill it all up by streaming everyone's TV in place of perfectly good existing technology :rolleyes:

The internet was never designed to be a platform for providing TV - it's such a waste of bandwidth! We might all be drooling at the thought of 1GB connections, but I tell you - in a few years time if everyone in the country is streaming (and recording for later veiwing) dozens of 4K-definition channels, there will be little bandwidth left for anything else.

This is very Irish 'good room' mentality - we have something great, but lets not use it for fear it wears out...... I think most people are a bit more forward looking these days. As a poster said above, this is the way its going.

Gwynston

lbyrne121 wrote: »

hi sorry to add to this thread but I was wondering if someone can help.. I am moving house and I have rang eircom and they said that the I can only get speeds up to 2mb... I presume that is really bad? anyone know what it is like to have speeds like that? I have attached a picture below my house is on the blue line

Looks like your house is on a road with a blue line - so you should get up to 1000MB Fiber To The Home in future!:D
I think that blue line extends from the Revensdale exchange? That says "Estimated date for first Live Fibre Services is early/mid 2017".

Meanwhile, 2MB is only really usable for general web browsing. YouTube viewing is barely possible and it will not cope very well with streaming. Downloading movies etc. will likely take longer than the duration of the movie.
(Speaking from experience of a 1.7MB connection)

lbyrne121

Gwynston wrote: »

lbyrne121 wrote: »

hi sorry to add to this thread but I was wondering if someone can help.. I am moving house and I have rang eircom and they said that the I can only get speeds up to 2mb... I presume that is really bad? anyone know what it is like to have speeds like that? I have attached a picture below my house is on the blue line

Looks like your house is on a road with a blue line - so you should get up to 1000MB Fiber To The Home in future!:D
I think that blue line extends from the Revensdale exchange? That says "Estimated date for first Live Fibre Services is early/mid 2017".

Meanwhile, 2MB is only really usable for general web browsing. YouTube viewing is barely possible and it will not cope very well with streaming. Downloading movies etc. will likely take longer than the duration of the movie.
(Speaking from experience of a 1.7MB connection)

Thank you for your response? are you familiar with this area? I see that the Ballymascanlon area is currently Fibre Build commenced - completion work is in progress.. when that is completed would I be able to get broadband from that?
I am in the Bellurgan area and was wondering how long it will actually be in the future are we talking years do you think or at some stage next year?

Anyone else out there from the Bellurgan area know anything about expectations for Fibre broadband?

Gwynston

murphaph wrote: »

Broadcast TV is dead/dying. Who the hell wants to be bound to the times of a broadcaster (except maybe for live events) in this day and age? On demand will more or less completely replace broadcast TV in a few years.

ArthurG wrote: »

This is very Irish 'good room' mentality - we have something great, but lets not use it for fear it wears out...... I think most people are a bit more forward looking these days. As a poster said above, this is the way its going.

I'm not denying that On Demand TV is the future. But using the internet to provide it isn't what the internet was designed for. And we have other mechanisms that provide for that (satellite, cable).

It's predicted that in a couple of years 80% of global internet capacity will be used up by video, putting a huge strain on the worldwide infrastructure.

ArthurG

Gwynston wrote: »

I'm not denying that On Demand TV is the future. But using the internet to provide it isn't what the internet was designed for. And we have other mechanisms that provide for that (satellite, cable)

The internet was initially designed to share scientific information as far as I know, not for Facebook, selfies or shopping on eBay. Video already consumes huge amounts of the available bandwidth (Netflix utilising something like 40% of all traffic in NA).

So the wonderful developments that we now take for granted and gigabit fibre that you are benefitting from are actually as a result of that huge demand, so be thankful that industry is proactively working to provide the capacity.

Gwynston

lbyrne121 wrote: »

Thank you for your response? are you familiar with this area? I see that the Ballymascanlon area is currently Fibre Build commenced - completion work is in progress.. when that is completed would I be able to get broadband from that?
I am in the Bellurgan area and was wondering how long it will actually be in the future are we talking years do you think or at some stage next year?

Anyone else out there from the Bellurgan area know anything about expectations for Fibre broadband?

Sorry not familiar with the area at all - just going by the maps.

The Ballymascanlon cabinet closest to your X is being upgraded and I presume will be the relay/connecting point for your blue line. Once that's done, you still need to wait for the blue lines in the Ravensdale exchange (which it looks like it's connected to) to be wired for FTTH. That's predicted as "early/mid 2017", but lots around the country are labelled the same, so who knows how longs it's gonna take to wire up all those blue lines (and in what order)?

I'm in the same boat in Co. Galway. Hopefully sometime next year for us both! :cool: